posted April 17, 2011 03:51 PM            

'If a man wants you, he will do nothing short of freezing hell over to have you'.

This was advice from someone on here, i don't remember who buts its so true and has helped me a lot.

posted April 17, 2011 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yep,we had Saturn trine Saturn,too. It is a very unique experience.
Lioness has done several threads on this.
The person gets under your skin in a way that you can't control.It is visceral is all I can say.
It IS like being a mother where you love that baby so much.
If you ever breastfeed,it is such a visceral experience.
This reminds me of Moon/Pluto.
It is beyond words,beyond your mind.
If the person is out of your life,it will fade with time.
That is the good part,I suppose,but you CANNOT rush it or push it away.
I suppose it goes by attrition,only

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Sorry I just read this thread :P

Im trying..... to stop talking about this... so far no luck! LOL

I think moon/pluto is a lesson it gets you to feel again..
Jojo you recently split with someone no?? It was the same for me..
I felt my feelings were dead, and that I could never feel again.. I swore I would never feel love..

So then the universe comes and smacks me in the face and gives me moon/pluto.. LOL

Its like telling you, ooo your gonna feel, your going to feel BIG TIME!
Its kinda tells you, this is how your "suppose" to feel when you love... (only its not)It just gets bad bad bad... LOL

I think its more about acceptance... Pluto wants transformation... When pluto hits the moon it wants transformation of your inner self your soul, your emotions..
To accept and learn what your REALLY FEEL..

You also had to learn how to figure out the good feelings from the bad feelings... IT consumed my entire head, even my dreams.

I think deep down inside you know, what this is about.. ( I know I did) I spent over a year fighting it and making excuses for my feelings I was only avoiding my inner self..
(but thats prob also part of the h12 stuff)

It just got worse.. Once I stood up and faced my feelings internally, and I figured out what it is I really want/need... It got better...

I still feel the moon/pluto because I still have to see him everyday (because we work together) but I have a grip on it now, and I will not let if consume me anymore..

When he talks to me now, Im like blahhh why are you talking to me... go away! I dont want to feel that about you anymore...

AMI BTW we have Saturn sq Saturn (euwhhh) and his saturn conjunct my Dsc..

Him saying we HAVE to be friends.. We just owe it to each other.. blah blah blah..

No we dont... I should be respectful to each other, but that's it.. No more friends... I ended the friendship totally..

I talked to an Astrologer about him.. He said OMG!!
You are being KARMICLLY Fu3$ked with, was his exact words... LOL

This guy hit every since planet of mine.. Even my midpoints...

He hit me in every way possible..

He hit me in my natal,transits, even in Solar Arc's

I have known him for over 7years.. Then BAM one day it all just fell together..
When I was feeling at my lowest..

I can say this was a predestined meeting.. He was put dead smack at my job, so neither of us can run or disconnect until I figured it out...

posted April 18, 2011 02:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:

Sorry I just read this thread :P

Im trying..... to stop talking about this... so far no luck! LOL

I think moon/pluto is a lesson it gets you to feel again..
Jojo you recently split with someone no?? It was the same for me..
I felt my feelings were dead, and that I could never feel again.. I swore I would never feel love..

So then the universe comes and smacks me in the face and gives me moon/pluto.. LOL

Its like telling you, ooo your gonna feel, your going to feel BIG TIME!
Its kinda tells you, this is how your "suppose" to feel when you love... (only its not)It just gets bad bad bad... LOL

I think its more about acceptance... Pluto wants transformation... When pluto hits the moon it wants transformation of your inner self your soul, your emotions..
To accept and learn what your REALLY FEEL...

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I think you're so right. I was so locked up emotionally that I didn't shed a tear after leaving such a long relationship. I did notice however, that my eyes would "leak". I recognized it as my soul crying even if I couldn't express the emotion itself.

This relationship (for lack of a better word) made me realize that I deserve better in live and love than to not feel anything at all. That's what I learned...that I still FEEL.

posted April 18, 2011 04:19 PM            

Oh how true this is!

I was alive - but felt dead...

until Moon/Pluto decided otherwise. Then the Moon/Pluto took nearly 2 years to get over.

posted April 18, 2011 09:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Deluded:

Quote Lioness
"I think moon/pluto is a lesson it gets you to feel again."

Oh how true this is!

I was alive - but felt dead...

until Moon/Pluto decided otherwise. Then the Moon/Pluto took nearly 2 years to get over.

Am now internet dating which is another subject entirely! Currently being rejected by Sun Aqua, Pisces Moon guy. And there i was thinking that Libra and Aqua were supposed to be a good match. Oh well...!

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Yes my dear lovely ladies... Moon/pluto says Its time to learn to feel again.. Your going to feel no matter what, and there is no running away from your feelings. Deal with it and accept your feelings... Once you stop fighting the feelings, it just gets easier...

Deluded have you noticed a difference with your feelings now with other men... I have had a huge 360 when it comes to knowing what Im feeling.. (which has been a big issue for me) Or what has changed for you?

posted April 19, 2011 04:44 PM            

Difference with feelings? Too early to say really as I have not dated at all since separation from husband. At the moment just trying to let the last little remaining bit of Moon/Pluto go if you know what I mean.

As you know Lioness, I'm like you and have to work with him so its not been easy. I am just so annoyed by him now, angry that he made me have these feelings - cos I swear he started this thing!

Angry with myself for what I have done to myself. Have been feeling quite ok lately and happily plodding along on my own, but today I feel down and that all men are b******s and feel at rock bottom again. I know its not true I just hope can meet one of the genuine men eventually...

Mind you - with this guy on internet (who i have not met) I must say my feelings have been quite obsessive still! Again Moon/pluto is involved. Opposite and Square. Synastry looks generally very good, but thats all it is unless I got to meet him which looks unlikely. Why am I drawn to guys that just aren't bothered?

JoJo
This is so funny what you say about this guys photo. I had the exact same thing when I first saw this guy. I sat and looked at his photo and kept looking at it and looking further still - thinking 'I know you' knowing that I haven't met him! How strange.

There is Eros conjunct Psyche 0.10 so don't know if this explains it and a Venus Juno conjunct plus other stuff.

Another case of wasted synastry material!

posted April 19, 2011 05:49 PM            

I know what your saying..

But I have been meeting other men,with moon/pluto connections with me..

Only I feel the universe is testing me.. DId she really learn? Here throw this guy in the mix and see.. (shock)
Right after I met someone who's moon was dead on my Pluto..

I took my free will card and got the flip outta there!! lolololol...
Because seriously was what you felt sincere for that person? I bet it didnt make sense.. But it was just so intense, that it didnt matter.. Just feeling was so powerful..

Now I think moon/pluto wants you to feel, but also wants you to know, when its real..
When its not real it will be torture..

But I would take the trine... but thats me I have venus sq pluto so I need some depth..

posted April 20, 2011 04:45 PM            

I totally get what you're saying...

You are correct - the feelings for this guy made absolutely no sense what so ever! It was the most deeply powerful, gut wrenching feeling that I have ever ever known.

I 'believe' my feelings for him were sincere, however, the fact being - it could not actually be real as the feelings could not be played out.

So this is interesting about you saying that when Moon/Pluto is not real it will be torture. Torture x million!!!!!!! Am so glad I seem to have survived the whole nightmare of it.

I was going to ask you - do you think having experienced Moon/Pluto and the intensity of it that you would be drawn to Moon/Pluto relationships again? You say the trine which yes i think would be better than squares/oppositions!

Natally I have Venus conj Neptune which never helps me in 'love'. What I see is never really what is actually going on, perfect example being my failed marriage.

posted April 20, 2011 08:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Deluded:
Lioness

I totally get what you're saying...

You are correct - the feelings for this guy made absolutely no sense what so ever! It was the most deeply powerful, gut wrenching feeling that I have ever ever known.

I 'believe' my feelings for him were sincere, however, the fact being - it could not actually be real as the feelings could not be played out.

So this is interesting about you saying that when Moon/Pluto is not real it will be torture. Torture x million!!!!!!! Am so glad I seem to have survived the whole nightmare of it.

I was going to ask you - do you think having experienced Moon/Pluto and the intensity of it that you would be drawn to Moon/Pluto relationships again? You say the trine which yes i think would be better than squares/oppositions!

Natally I have Venus conj Neptune which never helps me in 'love'. What I see is never really what is actually going on, perfect example being my failed marriage.

Also Sun tightly conjunct Uranus. Do I really want a relationship or just to be free?!

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posted April 20, 2011 11:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Deluded:
Lioness

I totally get what you're saying...

You are correct - the feelings for this guy made absolutely no sense what so ever! It was the most deeply powerful, gut wrenching feeling that I have ever ever known.

I 'believe' my feelings for him were sincere, however, the fact being - it could not actually be real as the feelings could not be played out.

So this is interesting about you saying that when Moon/Pluto is not real it will be torture. Torture x million!!!!!!! Am so glad I seem to have survived the whole nightmare of it.

I was going to ask you - do you think having experienced Moon/Pluto and the intensity of it that you would be drawn to Moon/Pluto relationships again? You say the trine which yes i think would be better than squares/oppositions!

Natally I have Venus conj Neptune which never helps me in 'love'. What I see is never really what is actually going on, perfect example being my failed marriage.

Also Sun tightly conjunct Uranus. Do I really want a relationship or just to be free?!

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Yeah what you were feeling was sincere, but I dont think it was true.. If you understand what I am saying...

Our circumstances are similar. Its so many different stages we are going through...
The worst was the game play.. Just both of us playing with each other.. I know we were doing it.. But IDK it was just a defense to everything...
He actually called me on it.. (embarrassing) He laughed at me, bc I made a fool of my self.... Even I had to laugh...
We started talking again (prob bc rx) but anyways, its not the same.. Im not going to let it get to that level anymore... I now longer give him that power of me

We talk, then have 0 contact and then talk again...
I dont think this will ever be over... But it is easier now... The fear is easing up.

posted April 20, 2011 11:08 PM            

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Originally posted by JoJo:
I think I will be. I loved the intesity of the feelings. I know what it was like when I had his attention and when we were together. I would love to bask in that again...

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posted May 08, 2011 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
Moon/Pluto is great and passionate and intense. UNTIL you break up and feel the loss... I swear I didnt really feel it until we ended everything.. Which was ME ending it.. I started it.. Then BAM it hit like a ton of bricks dropping on you..
I really really left the loss.. As if I have been with him for 20 years.. It was very painful...
I didnt even feel that bad, when I split with the husband... Total shell shock! I wasnt expecting that at all...

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posted May 25, 2011 12:08 AM            

Wow...I've never been conned before. I can usually spot them a mile away.

posted June 01, 2011 11:11 PM            

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Originally posted by JoJo:
Sadly, I learned through a mutual friend that this guy is a serial cheater. Man, did I get played. I've never been duped like this before. I'm usually so good at spotting a player so now I'm left to wonder what in the world made me so blind to it.

Sadly, I still can't get him off my mind. What a bummer.

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Did he have anything in his chart that would make him a serial cheater?

posted June 01, 2011 11:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Did he have anything in his chart that would make him a serial cheater?

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I don't know enough to know...our synastry chart is in the the beginning of this thread.

posted June 02, 2011 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Wow Jo
That is the first time I looked at the synastry.
I will look more tomorrow? Is he the one you cannot forget?
Can you put his chart up, too?

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Yes, he's the one. Here you go:

posted June 02, 2011 10:53 PM            

When I saw the name conjunctions, I was kind of stunned.

That having been said, I don't know if it means anything or not, but it was still pretty shocking to see...

posted June 03, 2011 09:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I will look at the charts later Jo Jo

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