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Doux Rêve
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posted May 05, 2011 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes, Coffee, what about appearances?
Does the ASC or the ASC ruler show the physical appearance in your system?

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posted May 05, 2011 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Coffee - Are you saying, you don't see Libran traits in yourself?

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posted May 05, 2011 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
It's black,supercurly and full (pretty wild, too). It's quite amazing, I love it.
I get alot of compliments about it, it's my pride. It grows really quick, I just cut it recently and had to cut it again because it didn't stay that lenght very long. Okay now I'm just boasting again, xD. How is that related to my Ascendant?

Leo ascendant for sure. Trust me on this one

I'm actually pretty good at guessing people's ascendants based on physical traits and vibes, because I've researched it a lot on my acquaintances.

Cancer asc will have either ridiculously small breasts or really large ones (usually the latter, but it's always about the breasts), and a moon shaped face.

Leo ascendants distinctive mark is "the mane"

Virgos asc have thin hair, which looks unwashed (sorry, you know who you are, and I know you do wash it). Libra will not necessarily have dimples, but a smile plastered on. Scorpios usually wear black, and they have what people call "the stare" and so on.

As I said, a planet conjunct asc will modify this. For instance, Pluto conjunct a Libra asc may give off a Scorpio asc vibe.

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maira
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posted May 05, 2011 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just remembered a good site I used to browse when I was trying to get a feel of the different ascendants http://www.librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/ristable.html

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posted May 05, 2011 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by maira:
Leo ascendant for sure. Trust me on this one

I'm actually pretty good at guessing people's ascendants based on physical traits and vibes, because I've researched it a lot on my acquaintances.


Oh, wow. I'd like that to be true. That would also put some planets in different houses...it would make sense actually.
But still...what about the birth time? :-0


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Doux Rêve
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posted May 05, 2011 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uhm.. I have red hair, so how can you guess I'm a Gemini rising? I bet people would think I'm a Leo or Aries rising. Or something fiery, not Mercurian.

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posted May 05, 2011 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wait maira you said "physical traits and VIBES", sorry my bad.
Yes then you'd probably have no problem guessing I'm a Gem ASC. (I am pretty expressive and talkative).

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posted May 05, 2011 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat Face     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
See, that's what I was talking about.
Your Saturn touches personal planets, that's why the Jupiter doesn't come out as strongly as Saturn.

What aspects does your Jupiter do, Cat Face?


Venus square Saturn I said earlier was a mistake.

My Jupiter is actually the focal point of two T-Squares. This one is tight: Venus (5th) opposite Uranus (11th) onto Jupiter (2nd). Loose: Venus OPPOSITE Saturn (10th/11th) onto Jupiter. It's also sextile my Sun and trine the MC.

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posted May 05, 2011 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Cat Face:
The Venus square I said earlier was a mistake.

My Jupiter is actually the focal point of two T-Squares. This one is tight: Venus (5th) opposite Uranus (11th) onto Jupiter (2nd). Loose: Venus OPPOSITE Saturn (10th/11th) onto Jupiter. It's also sextile my Sun, trine the MC.


Hmm.. That would make Jupiter prominent.
But it's involved with Saturn anyway, so maybe Saturn wins there.. phew I don't know.

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posted May 05, 2011 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Uhm.. I have red hair, so how can you guess I'm a Gemini rising? I bet people would think I'm a Leo or Aries rising. Or something fiery, not Mercurian.

If it helps, I have red hair too, Sagittarius rising, BUT Mercury closely conjunct my rising

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posted May 05, 2011 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aya_and_baby:
If it helps, I have red hair too, Sagittarius rising, BUT Mercury closely conjunct my rising

And where's your Jupiter?
I always thought Mercury = dark hair.

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posted May 05, 2011 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat Face     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DR,
My Moon's (4th) only major aspect is that opposition I mentioned to Saturn. This rules my Cap AS/Can DC. All the traits associated with the aspect is pretty much how I (1st) approach and interact with others (7th). I don't know how they calculate things at astro.com, but according to them, Saturn is the strongest planet/ranks 1st in my chart.

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posted May 05, 2011 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
And where's your Jupiter?
I always thought Mercury = dark hair.

Well, I do know a guy with Gemini rising who is the only really dark haired one out of all his siblings, which is kind of striking... speaking of mercurian and dark hair

BUT... My Jupiter is in 2nd house Capricorn. Doesn't help much, does it?

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Doux Rêve
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posted May 05, 2011 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aya_and_baby:
Well, I do know a guy with Gemini rising who is the only really dark haired one out of all his siblings, which is kind of striking... speaking of mercurian and dark hair

BUT... My Jupiter is in 2nd house Capricorn. Doesn't help much, does it?


Ha, I'd have thought that the ASC ruler in Capricorn would give you dark hair (again!).
But I guess you don't mess with genetics

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posted May 05, 2011 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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DR,
My Moon's (4th) only major aspect is that opposition I mentioned to Saturn. This rules my Cap AS/Can DC. All the traits associated with the aspect is pretty much how I (1st) approach and interact with others (7th). I don't know how they calculate things at astro.com, but according to them, Saturn is the strongest planet/ranks 1st in my chart.

Well maybe you identify with your mask more than other people . Saturn is quite a dominant planet, when it touches a personal planet you KNOW it.

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posted May 05, 2011 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat Face     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Yep!

re: dark hair. I would expect Pluto or Saturn to be at the AC.

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posted May 05, 2011 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Ha, I'd have thought that the ASC ruler in Capricorn would give you dark hair (again!).
But I guess you don't mess with genetics

I do have Uranus conjunct the rising too, and moon opposite it My rising is a busy part of my chart!


The funny thing is that I could have easily had dark hair: part of my dad's family are french and dark hair appears in his family a lot (he used to be more light brown), and my mother has very dark brown hair. How I ever came out with red hair is still a mystery

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posted May 05, 2011 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ Yep!

re: dark hair. I would expect Pluto or Saturn to be at the AC.


Agreed.
Saturn, especially.

Maybe Scorpio can give red hair?
My ASC ruler Mercury is in there, maybe that's why I am ginger who knows, after all Mars is Scorpio's traditional ruler (and Aries = red hair, often)

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posted May 05, 2011 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aya_and_baby, can you tell me how Uranus conjunct the ASC plays out? Do you want to appear different from others? Please describe

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posted May 05, 2011 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Aya_and_baby, can you tell me how Uranus conjunct the ASC plays out? Do you want to appear different from others? Please describe

Hmm... "want to"? Not really, I just always stand out. the red hair and vibrant turquoise eyes do help to that end, I partly never go unnoticed because of my physical appearance rather than my behaviour. I usually want to be just casual and not stand out, but even my dress sense always has something special, however classic it is.

I think I just have this kind of vibe that makes me noticeable. And to think I'm really pretty normal and pretty casual

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posted May 05, 2011 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha well you ARE a Scorpio! That could explain the red hair, too!
And of course you can't go unnoticed with a Scorpio Sun and Uranus conjunct the ASC

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posted May 05, 2011 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Haha well you ARE a Scorpio! That could explain the red hair, too!
And of course you can't go unnoticed with a Scorpio Sun and Uranus conjunct the ASC

The Scorpio sun is safely hidden away in the 12th house, and guarded by Saturn I do have the feeling that it hardly comes out.

But I do have 4 planets and an ASC in a fire sign, and my eyes... well, I blame them on Uranus

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posted May 05, 2011 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aya_and_baby
you sound gorgeous!

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posted May 05, 2011 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww ty!

I have to admit, I don't feel it right now. Long term all-time low self esteem combined with PMS But it's nice to hear that people think I might be

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posted May 05, 2011 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My rising sign is Virgo. Its ruler, Mercury, is in my third house along with my Sun (both Scorpio).

I think people who know me would pick up on the Scorpio-ness. But I have noticed in stressful situations I default much more strongly to Virgo.

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