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blugrey
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posted June 02, 2011 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Also – I do feel as though the man I am with should treat me nicely and do nice things for me sometimes (as I would also do for him! It is not a one way street)… I don’t like people who seem to think “it’s all about them”.
Venus in Aries expects a lot – but it never crosses their mind to do something nice for you, to send you a nice email for your birthday even! - let alone buy you something pretty. They just don’t think.

On those rare occasions they do something - it is always in poor taste… like a guy I knew some time ago got me a little fluffy 'whatever it was' - it looked like a cross between an elephant and a chihuahua lol.. and a card that said “I was going to get you a nice dress for your birthday… (and inside the card) But I realized you'd look better without it”

Like HA! HA! – so flipping funny!
Who the hell wants that !!!!
I would’ve preferred the dress – thanks.


Hahahahahahahah I think that's awesome. I personally love lingerie as a gift. I don't think it's tacky as long as it's gorgeous. But my Venus is in the 2nd house. I love silk and lace and getting dolled up in it. The card speaks to my Gemini as well. haha this made me giggle.

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posted June 02, 2011 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"It’s all silly things like throwing little offenses your way to get your attention and bugging you and so forth. It’s just too immature."

The way I see it, it just is a light-hearted approach to relationships, where they're able to see the humour of love, sex, and relationships. I don't know, it's probably my sag mars but that kind of ridiculous teasing makes me laugh and laughter's a huge aphrodisiac in my opinion.

The part about being assertive is always my problem with firey people, I appear that way in life, but my venus is pisces makes me quite sexually passive at times. maybe your cap venus acts the same way.

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posted June 02, 2011 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What lingerie guys?

I got NOTHING!

I got a stuffed toy.

It did make me giggle.. but it's so far under what I expect and what I give. It's just not at all - my style. They are out of sync with me.

free -

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a light-hearted approach to relationships, where they're able to see the humour of love, sex, and relationships

I am light-hearted in the sense that I don't feel the need to have a serious set-out relationship with a ring on my finger. I like my freedom. And making me laugh feels like an aphrodisiac to me also... but petty insults that sound like he just stepped out of the principal's office and he is 15 yrs old -- are not my kind of humour.
I like sarcasm and more complex humour.


Yrone,

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I have Cap Venus, I prefer underhanded innuendo to flat out "omg boobs lolz" jokes.

I feel the same way.

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posted June 02, 2011 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
What lingerie guys?

I got NOTHING!

I got a stuffed toy.

It did make me giggle.. but it's so far under what I expect and what I give. It's just not at all - my style. They are out of sync with me.

free -

I am light-hearted in the sense that I don't feel the need to have a serious set-out relationship with a ring on my finger. I like my freedom. And making me laugh feels like an aphrodisiac to me also... but petty insults that sound like he just stepped out of the principal's office and he is 15 yrs old -- are not my kind of humour.
I like sarcasm and more complex humour.


Ohhhhhhhhhh okay. I thought you got lingerie because of the card and I thought you meant the lingerie was ugly and LOOKED like a poodle. Uhhhhhhhhhh my brain is not functioning!

I totally second you on the insults. At some point the guy has to leave elementary school and stop pulling pigtails. I like the suggestive, saying it in other words kind of thing! I can't really explain it but just the way certain things are phrased when it comes to sweet talking, but not really - it makes my Gem venus flutter.

I appreciate lighthearted COMMUNICATION of feelings, but those feelings must be secure and deep and warm.

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posted June 02, 2011 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for freebrainstorms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah never mind!

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posted June 02, 2011 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ohhhhhhhhhh okay. I thought you got lingerie because of the card and I thought you meant the lingerie was ugly and LOOKED like a poodle. Uhhhhhhhhhh my brain is not functioning!

Second this. Ooops.

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posted June 02, 2011 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lalalinda...i kinda wanna disagree about venus hard aspect uranus unless you also have it...i'm getting over someone and we both had venus conjunct uranus in sag so it ended up carrying over into the composite as well. the thing about this aspect that annoys me more than the propensity for short lived relationships, constantly diverting from expectation, etc is that people with venus in hard aspect to uranus (i say this as someone who has the conjunction mind you!) do whatever they want in the end and don't regard their partners' FEELINGS. they try to intellectualize and EXPLAIN to you why all of a sudden they're not interested/disappear/move on/whatever and then do just that while you're left with an emotional, confused mess! i hope in the future i date someone with a soft aspect to my own venus/uranus conjunction :/ i have this connected to saturn so i kind of pride myself on not letting things get too far and then doing this but the guy i'm talking about also had it conjunct his sun and mercury in the first so those experiences were a big ol' ego boost for him, when he got what he needed he moved on to the next. i saw him do this with other girls and i ended up being one of them!

i think too many first house placements or too many seventh house placements are a bummer too. 1st house because it's all a big me-fest, 7th house feels like an energy vampire.

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posted June 02, 2011 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 02, 2011 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi staborgi, I would consider Venus conjunct Uranus as a hard aspect.

Let me make sure I'm understanding you correctly.
You both have Venus conjunct Uranus in your Natals? yes?

You didn't agree with which part?
That it (the relationship) didn't work?
If this were any other combo I would say maybe it ran its course but with Uranus it's very off and on and yes, unpredictable.
Never say never

I have found that with a challenging aspect in the Natal, you tend to attract people with that similar aspect.

Depending on personal inner-aspects, this aspect is kind of a focal point, something (an aspect) you both have in common.

I don't have an aspect with Venus and Uranus but I do have a nasty square with my Moon and Uranus. I totally understand upheaval and also how quickly things can change.
It is kind of disheartening

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posted June 02, 2011 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, I meant that I disagreed about two Venus/Uranus hard aspect people being about to make a relationship "work" in the long run I guess. But I guess you're right, if I'm expecting things to be over now Uranus may have another idea...it's interesting because in a moment of self torture I decided to look at his synastry with the girl he's with now and it's got the Sun square a Moon/Uranus conjunction and they've both got hard Sun/Uranus aspects. I was like WHOA, he loves that stuff!

and, now that I think about it the only other man I've been in love with had Venus opposite Uranus exact!

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posted June 02, 2011 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vertiver:

They are constantly looking for something better than what they have partner wise. They also tend to be very self-indulgent and it does not help if these men also have any strong Jupiter placements, which heightens the self-indulgence and being excessive in general.

I have similar problems with what you said there. Moon square Venus in mutable signs always causes me to look better than my partner can offer. I have strong Jupiter especially moon quincunx Jupiter and Venus trine Jupiter which increases self-indulgence and excessiveness in me. But especially strong Jupiter in leo is causing it. Even it is a generational aspect Jupiter square Pluto can cause what you said too. Many people including me have it, it is very obvious and seeable on their actions. But if there is an excessiveness there, it has to be related to Jupiter. Even all well-aspected Jupiter can cause excessiveness. My Jupiter gets gets two quincunx from moon and neptune and square from Pluto. It trines Venus, widely Sun and Mercury. It biquintiles Uranus. This god damn excessive planet is making a lot of aspect which causes me to excess anything in my life. THEY are aspects of UNMEASUREDNESS

So try to avoid..

-Definitely Moon Square Venus
-Moon,Venus,Sun hard aspects to Jupiter
-Many MANY MANY Sagittarus and Leo traits.
-Mars hard aspects to Neptune
-Good or bad aspected Moon, Venus in 12th house.
-Retrogade Venus, this is most crucial situation to avoid.

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posted June 02, 2011 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm also a Leo-Sun like you, Vertiver (I thought on the same degree 7* a 8*), and I really can't imagine myself being with a Taurus-SUN guy. A natural dislike between us or simply said; they miss everything I long for in a man...
I've had one terrible experience on a romantic level (for a few months) .. enough!

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posted June 02, 2011 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for visions     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have mars square neptune and thank you for telling me i must be avoided in matter of love, i am human and i need love too...

others things when i read all your comments it's like you ask a perfect chart, almost every people have hard aspect to their moon or venus or mars etc...

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posted June 02, 2011 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would avoid someone with at least 3 of the following:

Libra stellium esp. involving Sun and Moon
Chiron in 7th
Venus square Neptune
Venus in Virgo
Majority of planets in left hemisphere
Too much Uranian action in the chart

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posted June 02, 2011 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CappyVenus... When they get into Madonna/***** teritory.. And,that where I have my Moon!
I also had bad experiences with Cancer personal planet on my Venus.

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posted June 02, 2011 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
visions -

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i have mars square neptune and thank you for telling me i must be avoided in matter of love, i am human and i need love too...

I'm not sure how others feel about this, but I said above:

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I would not literally avoid any person ^ because of these aspects. But they are ones I've had negative experiences with in the past.

Which means -- If I meet a man tomorrow who has every single aspect I described, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't feel wary or be cautious. I'd see how it goes. I'd observe etc... If he happens to be different - and we're perfect for each other - I'm not going anywhere.
But if he is not ..... and he does fit certain negative patterns that I've had to deal with in the past.... then I'm out! Sorry lol


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it's like you ask a perfect chart,

Nobody is perfect. However you must have standards. If you have ZERO standards - you get walked all over and harmed badly. You're basically dead meat.
Everyone has things they love, things they like, things they are neutral about, things they dislike but can put up with, things they can't stand or hate.. and cannot put up with -- and so forth.
If you put up with absolutely everything -- you will simply end up with an abusive alcoholic chauvinist who fuks a new girl every night and gives you stds. No person who has all their mental faculties intact would lower their standards to ZERO.

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posted June 02, 2011 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL @ Blue, Free and Nine! It's all good guys

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posted June 02, 2011 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by visions:
i have mars square neptune and thank you for telling me i must be avoided in matter of love, i am human and i need love too...

others things when i read all your comments it's like you ask a perfect chart, almost every people have hard aspect to their moon or venus or mars etc...


I have personally many of them. Of course you can not change bad aspects in natal chart. And if you have many of them, you can have traits which topic starter complains about. many people are complaining bad habits of their lovers so they have enough it and they sure want and need a "trustful, reliable and nonexcessive man" as you need love. So if they are tired of being so called bad aspects of their man's natal chart, then they should try to avoid what i say. It may be perfectionist list but if you had many bad relationships as they have then you either become perfectionist or appropiater whatever you find in a man. Probably i have more bad aspects then you have, so i try to avoid long-term relationships not to hurt to lover. It is self-sacrifice but i am doing it. İf you are such a nice guy, then ignore my comment and prove that you are loveable and a person who does not have to be avoided to your newcomers. I have 5 bad aspects to my moon, 3 bad aspects to my jupiter. I have enough power not to be loved but you don't have. So do whatever you want. Nobody who is interested in you just will keep you away for what i said in the lists. It is your life and just ignore me. But let me tell you something. I always consider people who admits that they need love as not strong personalities. Solitude is a virtue. Still many people won't let me be alone but one way or another i will need noone in my life. I suggest this to you too..

Mars square Neptune is a possible cheater aspect especially in woman's chart by the way.
Moon square Venus is another possible cheater aspect in man's chart

Note:If you want a original and clever man
definitely avoid the aspect of the Morons / "Horde of Lambs": Neptune Conjunct North Node(They blindly(without considering, rationalizing) follow the society. If society drinks a lot, they drink a lot too.).

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posted June 02, 2011 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
visions -

Nobody is perfect. However you must have standards. If you have ZERO standards - you get walked all over and harmed badly. You're basically dead meat.
Everyone has things they love, things they like, things they are neutral about, things they dislike but can put up with, things they can't stand or hate.. and cannot put up with -- and so forth.
If you put up with absolutely everything -- you will simply end up with an abusive alcoholic chauvinist who fuks a new girl every night and gives you stds. No person who has all their mental faculties intact would lower their standards to ZERO.


That is a little related what i tried to say
but still thx for making it clear.

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posted June 02, 2011 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hallo Mertzy! Have I ever told you how much I love your nickname?
I love it because I can make it even shorter & cuter.. Mertzy! It's catchy hey? lol

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Probably i have more bad aspects then you have, so i try to avoid long-term relationships not to hurt to lover. It is self-sacrifice but i am doing it.

I don't think that's the best solution... I mean, I'm sure it doesn't apply to everyone. There are women out there with the same aspects you have! lol

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I always consider people who admits that they need love as not strong personalities. Solitude is a virtue.

Actually, it's funny because - I wanted to say above... that the men in my life who had the aspects I mentioned.. are all types who would NEVER say this. If they saw this thread - they'd be PROUD that they got this reaction.

I don't actually respect this and I don't find it "strong" ^
I'd rather someone be open about their feelings.

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posted June 02, 2011 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Hallo Mertzy! Have I ever told you how much I love your nickname?
I love it because I can make it even shorter & cuter.. Mertzy! It's catchy hey? lol

Actually, it's funny because - I wanted to say above... that the men in my life who had the aspects I mentioned.. are all types who would NEVER say this. If they saw this thread - they'd be PROUD that they got this reaction.

I don't actually respect this and I don't find it "strong" ^
I'd rather someone be open about their feelings.


Haha you can say "Mert" shortly as well. It is my real name. Anyway you can say whatever you want =)).

Many people would rather someone be open about their feelings, otherwise they would be living in a relationship with lies and probably deceptions. I think most important thing for me is someone knowing what TRULY HER HEARTH desires as i don't know, and admits it too me.

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posted June 02, 2011 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Deux*Antares:
I would avoid someone with at least 3 of the following:

Libra stellium esp. involving Sun and Moon
Chiron in 7th
Venus square Neptune
Venus in Virgo
Majority of planets in left hemisphere
Too much Uranian action in the chart


Wow
Could you please elaborate on some of these,if you would.
Have you had experience with Chiron in the 7th and Venus square Neptune.
If you would not mind, I would love to hear some of it so I could understand them better.
Also, the Libra stellium.
I understand Venus in Virgo well enough,myself
Thank you!

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posted June 02, 2011 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by visions:
i have mars square neptune and thank you for telling me i must be avoided in matter of love, i am human and i need love too...

others things when i read all your comments it's like you ask a perfect chart, almost every people have hard aspect to their moon or venus or mars etc...


I remember I took an astrology class as an elective and there was this guy who had it out for venus is Gemini. He marred them the ***** of the ***** and should be burned like in a witch hunt.=X

I told him he was effing coco puffs with a crapload of emotional baggage and overall he sounded batshat crazy..

After that class I just can't see astrology in a serious light..not with people like that.

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posted June 02, 2011 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Maka:
I remember I took an astrology class as an elective and there was this guy who had it out for venus is Gemini. He marred them the ***** of the ***** and should be burned like in a witch hunt.=X

I told him he was effing coco puffs with a crapload of emotional baggage and overall he sounded batshat crazy..

After that class I just can't see astrology in a serious light..not with people like that.


Seriously? For me, the ones who has enough guts to face their dark side and bad aspects in their natal chart deserves a good relationship... If you are curious about astrology, then you have to be enough strong to face what might be said to you from your chart . If you are not enough strong, then don't ask .

By the way this is me Moon/Pluto person talking. Also Pluto in 8th house.

You can't just accept only good parts of your natal chart and then ignore bad parts. It is a PACKAGE DEAL.

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posted June 02, 2011 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have venus in gemini, that's the thing.

I have venus in Leo, it's just I can't deal with that kind of batshat crazy. There's constructive critism then there's boderlinde nutso..thats boderline nutso =X

And I have an 8th house stellium with Moon/Pluto aspect.

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