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mintgirl123
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posted June 02, 2011 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun hard aspects neptune or uranus =/
venus in gem
mars square uranus
Venus square mars in mutable signs.

I'm adding gem merc (they lie like hell)

I got alot of libra which sucks cos I'm attracted to the gem qualities but =(

I also can't deal with too much water. They become so manipulative and emotionally abusive =/

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posted June 02, 2011 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Sun hard aspects neptune or uranus =/
venus in gem
mars square uranus
Venus square mars in mutable signs.

Venus opposite Mars in mutable signs are more problematic according to my observations

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posted June 02, 2011 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starcrossedleo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars square uranus

the explosive often times violent temper is something I'd rather not experience again

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posted June 02, 2011 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or how about just avoiding men in general, ha! I'm better at being friends with guys than actually dating them...

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Ami Anne
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posted June 03, 2011 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starcrossedleo:
Mars square uranus

the explosive often times violent temper is something I'd rather not experience again


This one is VERY interesting.I have no experience with it.
Could you talk about it some more lol

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Ami Anne
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posted June 03, 2011 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Sun hard aspects neptune or uranus =/
venus in gem
mars square uranus
Venus square mars in mutable signs.

I'm adding gem merc (they lie like hell)

I got alot of libra which sucks cos I'm attracted to the gem qualities but =(

I also can't deal with too much water. They become so manipulative and emotionally abusive =/


HOW does the Gem Mercury lie,in your experience?
Is it direct lies or exaggeration? Is it lying about events like he went to the bar and not the store
Or is it lying about emotion as in saying he loves you when he doesn't lol

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Ami Anne
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posted June 03, 2011 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Venus opposite Mars in mutable signs are more problematic according to my observations

How did YOU experience Venus oppose Mars ,Mert?
What type of practical things do they do ?lol

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posted June 03, 2011 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vertiver:
Or how about just avoiding men in general, ha! I'm better at being friends with guys than actually dating them...

You know you are not gonna do that Girlfriend

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posted June 03, 2011 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Sun hard aspects neptune or uranus =/
venus in gem
mars square uranus
Venus square mars in mutable signs.

I'm adding gem merc (they lie like hell)

I got alot of libra which sucks cos I'm attracted to the gem qualities but =(

I also can't deal with too much water. They become so manipulative and emotionally abusive =/


Dear Mintgirl
Could you please elaborate on how the hard aspects between the Sun and Neptune and the Sun and Uranus played out for you.
Thanks so much!

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posted June 03, 2011 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is SO funny is that Venus in Virgo in men is so hated .

My best friend(guy) has it. He is super macho, super sensitive and super sexy.
However,I can feel that Venus in Virgo peek out and I know he could never be for me

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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 03, 2011 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How did YOU experience Venus oppose Mars ,Mert?
What type of practical things do they do ?lol


this quoted explanation seems quite accurate

Venus opposition Mars in the natal chart indicates division between the passive and active sides of the self. We vacillate between compromise and self-assertion, and find it difficult to be both loving and independent. We are intensely motivated by sexuality and a need for union, yet fight it whenever it occurs. In fact, we are attracted to sexual tension and disharmony, probably due to impressions we have from childhood. As a result, we may find comfortable and considerate partners boring and seek out the dangerous or volatile instead, then bemoan the fact that we keep getting into difficult relationships. It is also possible that we become abusive or passive-aggressive, taking out deep seated resentments from our past on the romantic partner. There may be patterns of domination in our relationships. Nevertheless, all of this volatile energy can be redirected into positive directions with awareness and self-discipline. It is vitally important that we develop healthy self-esteem and a way to center ourselves, perhaps through meditation. We have a lot of creative energy, and the ability to be very productive and artistic. By channeling our energy into creative pursuits we can divert much of our aggression and build self-esteem. You're amorous, impulsive, self-indulgent, romantic and usually good looking. You're easily dissatisfied in love and may suffer from the disloyalty and unfaithfulness of others due to attracting these kind of partners. You may criticize others for the same faults you fail to see in yourself.

There's a great deal of impatience in relationships - especially romantic relationships. This sometimes stems from a lack of trust(I have worse...There is none ) in the opposite sex.


Love and hate are very much mixed together for people with Venus square or opposition Mars in their birth charts. They are prone to love-hate relationships with others, likely because their passions are such that the old saying "there's a fine line between love and hate" rings especially true. Some level of competitiveness, anger, frustration, or angst is present in their relationships with the opposite sex. In some cases, abuse is present, either in the form of receiving or giving it. Although they are quick to anger, they are generally just as quick to forget about it.

So if we look at explanation it is one of the must avoid ones ever... God i have all the goods and bads.. what am i ?

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posted June 03, 2011 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars Square Uranus in my own chart and I believe the last time I came across it in a man was 5 years ago. Then again, he would've also had Mars square saturn given the time he was born (last half of '88).

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posted June 03, 2011 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starcrossedleo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Anne

Mars square Uranus

Explosive and/or violent temper

I looked at m exes chart to see if some of his behavior was explainanble and I came up with this aspect. Basically, he was never violent with me but I have known him to punch someone for calling him a name (come on almost 50!!) and he shoved an ex friend who is handicapped. Just awful. He would scream at me at the top of his lungs on the phone, hang up at the smallest slight (Sun conj Neptune)sensitivity

Just as an aside people shouldn't take offense if they have one of these aspects-these are challenges that we have and either we learn to deal with them or control these tendencies or we don't. We all have to learn to deal with the good and the "bad" in our natal charts. Noone has the perfect chart or do they?

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posted June 03, 2011 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hang up at the smallest slight (Sun conj Neptune)sensitivity

I know one of these.Is THAT what makes him do that

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posted June 03, 2011 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starcrossedleo:
Ami Anne

Mars square Uranus

Explosive and/or violent temper

I looked at m exes chart to see if some of his behavior was explainanble and I came up with this aspect. Basically, he was never violent with me but I have known him to punch someone for calling him a name (come on almost 50!!) and he shoved an ex friend who is handicapped. Just awful. He would scream at me at the top of his lungs on the phone, hang up at the smallest slight (Sun conj Neptune)sensitivity

Just as an aside people shouldn't take offense if they have one of these aspects-these are challenges that we have and either we learn to deal with them or control these tendencies or we don't. We all have to learn to deal with the good and the "bad" in our natal charts. Noone has the perfect chart or do they?


Thank you Friend!
Ok--I have some experience with Mercury square Uranus which does a number on one's emotional stability.
In fact, this would be the LAST aspect *I* would choose for myself if I could make my own chart
Mercury conjunct Uranus seems very ,very hard too.
I have little experience with Uranus in my own chart---Thank Goodness.
I have a lot with Neptune.This is hard as far as making you diffuse.
Uranus seems to make you explosive.
I think they both make you mental just in different ways
Agree or disagree?

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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 03, 2011 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Placement to avoid in men

# 1 Sun, Jup, Mer and Venus conjunct in Aries run if you meet a man with this placement he married me left me and married 5 other ladies and left them all

gorgeous man though and thanks to him I have a gorgeous daughter

I remember talking about this before on here and someone told me that he sounds like Elizabeth Taylor

I have no regrets

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posted June 03, 2011 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting....I don't know whether to run for the hills or stick around because I'm intrigued. Lol

My SO has :
Venus rx in aquarius square mars in taurus
Sagittarius moon
Venus square uranus
Cappy sun with pisces ascendant

But he also has venus trine pluto
Moon conjunct neptune

I think for the most part you can't exclude certain placements unless you take into consideration their spiritual evolution. Was my SO a jerk to other girlfriends in the past? I'm sure he was....was he a cheater & philanderer? Yes he was. Not that I ever put it past him to do the same to me, I really feel like that between the synastry with us, I'm a better match- intellectually, intimately & spiritually. This I feel would overcome any harsh aspects they may have in the natal, synastry could soften them. I have some difficult aspects in my chart too. I attract a lot of sag moon men too (must be my gemini moon & sun mercury in 9th house) I do agree with a lot with what was said about them, esp with my ex who was an aries w/sag moon...the really believe the mantra "bros before h****." Currently my SO hasn't shown that (we've been together 1 1/2 yrs) but that could be because he's a workaholic who runs a business with his best friend...lol

I have found that most people with gemini in mars to rabid liars & gossips. I know 4 people including my ex & they loved to create drama & lie about the most insignificant things.

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posted June 03, 2011 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think for the most part you can't exclude certain placements unless you take into consideration their spiritual evolution.

Or they're maturity level for that matter. I mean, I'm unfortunately in my early 20's, which means men my age have the maturity level of a 16 year old, even the intellectual ones can surprise you, by how immature they really are.

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posted June 03, 2011 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 03, 2011 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starcrossedleo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you Friend!
Ok--I have some experience with Mercury square Uranus which does a number on one's emotional stability.
In fact, this would be the LAST aspect *I* would choose for myself if I could make my own chart
Mercury conjunct Uranus seems very ,very hard too.
I have little experience with Uranus in my own chart---Thank Goodness.
I have a lot with Neptune.This is hard as far as making you diffuse.
Uranus seems to make you explosive.
I think they both make you mental just in different ways
Agree or disagree?



I have a hard Uranus aspect Sun conj Uranus in my chart. I look at it as a positive- I'm pretty unique. If you met me you would not guess that I have led a pretty unconventional life. I'm pretty proud of my individuality. In the think the mars contributes more to the temper and the Uranus to the unexpected perhaps disproportionate outbursts. Usually explosion are unexpected and doesn't Uranus rule earthquakes , also unexpected.

I'm not sure what makes me mental prolly my moon conj mars!!


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posted June 03, 2011 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree...age doesn't have anything to do with emotional maturity or evolution. I have seem men that you would think would have some level of maturity but are the like little boys. I just watch and absorb what it is that is around them & how they conduct their lives. If partying is your way of life, then go on ahead but don't think I am the one to go along with it.

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posted June 03, 2011 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy, how do you handle that Sagittarius moon and retrograde Aquarius Venus in your partner? Those kinda seem like nightmare aspects to deal when coupled, esp. when you throw in a Venus/Uranus hard aspect in there

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posted June 03, 2011 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is SO funny is that Venus in Virgo in men is so hated .

My best friend(guy) has it. He is super macho, super sensitive and super sexy.
However,I can feel that Venus in Virgo peek out and I know he could never be for me


I always wondered why that's the case.
What about the placement is apalling to people? I think Venus in Virgo women are also not on the top of the list for men.
I noticed that alot of women are attracted to Venus in Virgo men from a distance though. xD

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JFK- you know what's funny? even though he has the aspects, its seems like I play it out for him. Natally I also have a venus in aquarius & I have a gemini moon. But I feel like I want to run away but feel compelled to stay. Don't get me wrong, I love him to death and couldn't imagine him not being a part of my life but there are times when I feel like I just want to run. When that happens, he holds on tighter. For example, last week, I told him I couldn't do this anymore- it wasn't working. So I left it alone. Couple of days later, I realized i left my coat & keys at his house. I needed them of course but a part of me knew that this would be "entrapment." But I went there to get it after coordinating a meeting at his house after work. We had a nice long talk about our relationship & our feelings but he says at the end to ad lib- I just need to keep my attitude in check because he isn't going anywhere and neither am I. We care for each other and just need to make it work. Huhhh?? lol. But he is right though. we just flow, its a really nice relationship- we admire each other & our feelings are very deep. One of the best relationships I have ever had. His pluto in 7th house trines his venus in 12th (another ouch).

But what does it takes for me to be able to handle this? My moon trine pluto. I can endure anything it seems...lol. I have a taurus rising so my descendant aligns with his personality. He's very intense, intellectual & creative. He's like a rock and I am the same for him. Being that we both have venus aquarius we have a great understanding. I always tell him- "you have your life, I have my life & we have our life." His sag moon is parallel to my sun and my sun conjuncts his sun/moon midpoint. Plus synastrically we have venus & moon trine pluto with a other saturn aspects to our moons & venus'. He's just as fickle as I can be if not moody but when we come together it all dissipates.

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posted June 03, 2011 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
I always wondered why that's the case.
What about the placement is apalling to people? I think Venus in Virgo women are also not on the top of the list for men.
I noticed that alot of women are attracted to Venus in Virgo men from a distance though. xD


Appalling is such a strong word. For me, personally, they're just always at odds with my Gemini Venus. I feel criticized for everything from my taste in music to the damn football team I choose to support. Plus personally, I've found that the men(and some women) are very..."lookist". I feel like if I'm not a size 0 with the face of Venus De Milo, I don't measure up to their standards.

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