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blugrey
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posted June 02, 2011 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by visions:
i have mars square neptune and thank you for telling me i must be avoided in matter of love, i am human and i need love too...

others things when i read all your comments it's like you ask a perfect chart, almost every people have hard aspect to their moon or venus or mars etc...


Well, just because one person can't handle a certain aspect, doesn't mean someone else isn't out there that can. It's just to personal taste. Me + Neptune issues = big no no. It's just from experience. To me - Sun/Moon hard aspects are easy as pie and I can deal with simply. Each person is unique.

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posted June 02, 2011 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Seriously? For me, the ones who has enough guts to face their dark side and bad aspects in their natal chart deserves a good relationship... If you are curious about astrology, then you have to be enough strong to face what might be said to you from your chart . If you are not enough strong, then don't ask .

By the way this is me Moon/Pluto person talking. Also Pluto in 8th house.

[b]You can't just accept only good parts of your natal chart and then ignore bad parts. It is a PACKAGE DEAL. [/B]


*swoon*

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blugrey
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posted June 02, 2011 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Gemini is negatively blown way out of proportion - just like the obsession with Scorpio placements. Astrology does have stereotypes from people who are not open minded (usually crappy online "astrologers") and want to automatically write people off or automatically praise a different type of person.

Personally, I've never found Scorpio (suns/venus/mars) to be magnetically attractive, even with my Scorpio Desc. (Don't get me wrong, I have few issues with Scorpios outside of romantic relationships - I think they are interesting!) Nor have I found that most people with Gemini Venus have cheated. Most haven't.

There are cheaters with every placement and aspect in the world. It's not something that happens in the chart and forces someone to become like that. It's a choice, a decision made. It has to do with character, not with personality.

Sure, people with Aqua, Sag, Gemini, and Pisces usually need more space or at least a more unique kind of relationship. This doesn't make their way of approaching love any more or less than another signs - it's just different.

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posted June 02, 2011 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
-Mutable T-squares involving Mars
-Major Libra
-Mars Square Neptune
-Venus in Virgo
-Moon in Sag
-Mars in Aries (and right about now, you're probably like...wait a minute?)
-Capricorn Sun (or major Cap)
-Scorpio Mars


And this is personally what I want to steer clear of. Unfortunately I usually don't ask for birthdates on first meetings. Ugh.

*edit* Oh, I forgot the bonus: anyone who has their venus in hard aspect to my Mars. Its stops being sexy when they expect you to initiate EVERYTHING.

And I also agree there's way too much cult hero worship of Scorpio placements. I'll admit that I'm biased towards the moons, but I think thats only because of my own 8th house moon, I couldn't really tell you if they're naturally magnetic to other people. My ex was a scorpio SUN, and he was cute but became totally unsexy when he got passive aggressive and whiny.

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posted June 02, 2011 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
-Mutable T-squares involving Mars
-Major Libra
-Mars Square Neptune
-Venus in Virgo
-Moon in Sag
-Mars in Aries (and right about now, you're probably like...wait a minute?)
-Capricorn Sun
-Scorpio Mars

I'd love to pick your brain on why you're not partial to a Sagittarius moon

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posted June 02, 2011 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, they are fantastic friends....but they make the shittiest boyfriends. I haven't had the 'pleasure' of going out with one (and I hope I never do) but I've witnessed their MO from the sidelines. The one Sag Moon attached to my best friend has a Cancer Sun, Mars, and Ceres, so he expects alot from her but gives so little consideration to her in return. He puts his friends before her about 89% of the time. I understand that he's pretty much been on his own since he snuck into the country at age 17, but if you're in a relationship (with a child) you have to start making compromises....ie. you can't stay out with your friends for as long as you want, especially if you're using MY car.

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posted June 02, 2011 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does Mars square Neptune do? Does this make men have no ambition/drive?
Also,if YOU don't want the Scorpio Mars, the more that is left for me

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posted June 02, 2011 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
I'd love to pick your brain on why you're not partial to a Sagittarius moon

One of most "being fickle" placements.

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posted June 02, 2011 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, its what I said above: they treat their friends better than their partners. Some are fickle, yes, but not always. The guy I mentioned above is attached to my friend, but he doesn't know how to treat her right.

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posted June 02, 2011 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about other Sag placements BM? Do you feel the same about these?

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posted June 02, 2011 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not in particular, I actually get along with most sag influenced people. Like I already said before, I have no animosity against sag moon men, I just think they are better at being friends than being lovers.

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posted June 02, 2011 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What about other Sag placements BM? Do you feel the same about these?


She should . I am a Venus/Sun/Mercury/MC sagittarus guy. Also mars in gemini. See that fickleness . Still i am always honest to my lover and never cheat. I first dump her and then do what i need to do.

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posted June 02, 2011 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many times do I need to disclaim this? Its *not* fickleness that bothers me (that varies amongst them), its the way they treat their partners. Go back and read Betty Boop's piece on Aries Venus and maybe you'll have a better idea of what I'm talking about? I'm sorry, but I don't think you're getting me.

By the way, I'm also a Gemini Venus? So I understand how the fickle label can get thrown around too easily.

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posted June 02, 2011 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Not in particular, I actually get along with most sag influennce people. Like I already said before, I have no animosity against sag moon men, I just think they are better at being friends than being lovers.

This is true. We are good friends, business-partner, enjoy-mates,one-night stands, teachers but not good lovers. Relationships are all about details and it is where sagittarus is weak..... They say about sagittarus this Sign of the bechelors

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posted June 02, 2011 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How many times do I need to disclaim this? Its *not* fickleness that bothers me (that varies amongst them), its the way they treat their partners. Go back and read Betty Boop's piece on Aries Venus and maybe you'll have a better idea of what I'm talking about? I'm sorry, but I don't think you're getting me.

By the way, I'm also a Gemini Venus? So I understand how the fickle label can get thrown around too easily.


Being fickle is always worse than not knowing how to treat to someone. Treating someone can be fixed but fickleness is not . Sagittarus is related to 9th house. 9th house is about honesty which is most important, philosophy, travel etcc which are good traits. So it must be a special case for the sag guy. So you must more worry about this though

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posted June 02, 2011 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I'll try this again: fickleness is a problem for me. A HUGE problem. But I've never experienced sag mooners as inherently fickle. I'm saying that I've seen how the men treat their women and I'm not a fan. Do you follow me now?

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posted June 02, 2011 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Okay, I'll try this again: fickleness is a problem for me. A HUGE problem. But I've never experienced sag mooners as inherently fickle. I'm saying that I've seen how the men treat their women and I'm not a fan. Do you follow me now?

I am ahead of you. I said sagittarus people know how to treat. It must be a special case for those who you observe. Generally Sagittarus people have good traits BECAUSE sag is related 9th house which gives honesty, vision, travel, justice, higher education, religion and forgiveness(cuz of jupiter) which are generally looked traits in the lover. So a typical well aspected sagittarus person traits well to her lover ok? Still it may vary depending on what u are looking for on your lover, maybe you want get nurtured which can not be provided buy sagittarus..

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posted June 02, 2011 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
She should . I am a Venus/Sun/Mercury/MC sagittarus guy. Also mars in gemini. See that fickleness . Still i am always honest to my lover and never cheat. I first dump her and then do what i need to do.

Good for you

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posted June 02, 2011 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Good for you


please dont make fun of me lady ((((

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posted June 02, 2011 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well first off, its not all sagittarian placements. Secondly, I'm only talking about the moons. And third: I'm only speaking of the men.

And of course, these are my own observations and my own perception (their moons do end up opposing my Venus: my idea of how partners should be treated). Its not like any of this is set in biblical tablets or anything, this is just personally what I would want to avoid. Generalization, yes: but that *is* the topic of this thread.

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posted June 02, 2011 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Betty Boop, Aries Venus men are very immature!

And it doesn't help when my Aries Mars in on their Venus, in fact the guy I mentioned with Moon opposite Venus, had Aries Venus, boo!

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posted June 02, 2011 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
please dont make fun of me lady ((((

Oh Darling
I would not make fun of you. I am so sorry if you thought that

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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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posted June 02, 2011 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vertiver:
Yes, Betty Boop, Aries Venus men are very immature!

And it doesn't help when my Aries Mars in on their Venus, in fact the guy I mentioned with Moon opposite Venus, had Aries Venus, boo!


To me, if I SEE Aries Venus in a man ,I am gone , I dated one.
It was so weird cuz he told me he needed the woman to chase.
I looked at him ,incredulous.
That was the END
Gemini Venus does not chase .If a guy is worth having ,he will chase me.
If not, I will wave Good Bye.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 02, 2011 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive never chased an Aries Venus... They always call me and give me alot of attention.. I didnt chase them at all...
Maybe why it doesnt go anywhere... lol.. I wont chase fire.. I only chase water...

But fire Venus come after me, like there is NO tomorrow...

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posted June 02, 2011 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1st ruler -150, 180, +150 to 7th ruler. They don't like women.

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