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Hera
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posted February 01, 2012 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I just realised he's an aries rising lol. Darn! He is so patient. Maybe he's waiting for that perfect moment, perfect surroundings, perfect atmosphere, perfect look in your eyes?

What are you going to ask him? Careful to come off sounding non screechy hahaha.


Well, his Asc is late Aries and he could be Taurus rising (but he doesn't fit it, in my opinion - he has sharp features like Aries, not soft and roundish like Taurus, no big eyes, no fluffy eyebrows and the man is always on the move, he can't stay still, owns 2 motorcycles lol and he has a wee bit of cockiness in him, though quite conceited. I can only imagine what goes under that calm surface! Boy, I am going to enjoy bringing it out! ).

Sooo... Obviously I can't be too upfront, so I am gently going to manipulate the conversation in that direction and then find a way to subtle ask him if he likes me *that* way. For now, I can do with that info, at least I will settle my insecurities and be willing to give him more time if he so needs.
But this has potential to be harmful for me, because I am starting to like him a lot and I can't take rejection too well (who does?). And if that's the case, I'd rather know early stages than later, after I fall in love with him.

I made a horary few days ago and *something* will happen during the week-end, because there was an applying aspect between us (though an opposition). I asked if he likes me that way, I was Mars in Virgo (love the irony) and he was venus in Pisces in my triplicity, which kinda says he does, and he's applying to me, so I guess one way or another things will become clearer.

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posted February 01, 2012 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Their kinkyness is kind of intelectual.. for the sake of experimenting Also,no complexes,but few fixed ideas,for example how things should develope It is fun

I'm like that too, my sexuality is mental. Fry my brain and I'll be yours! Definitely into experimentation too, I'm quite curious. I am also fixed on how things should develop lol.
If you add some sexy talk to that, I promise I will wait whatever it takes!

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posted February 01, 2012 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah:
Em, yeah. Ball gags, a little bondage, role playing, acting out scenes from films or books, sexting when attention should be elsewhere, teasing to the point of breaking, paddles, watching (don't think this needs to be explained, but a big mirror over the bed makes it even hotter!), creative uses of showers and tubs, etc. This all has a point and it's to make sure that the other is thoroughly pleased. Our pleasure is partly dependant on the other's. Mars here can be insatiable.


Insatiable, really? Can't wait! Hmmmm... sounds interesting so far! I have a thing for showers and mirrors too, so I'll play along. Not so sure yet how I stand on the whole bondage thing, got mixed feelings about it. Role playing always fun hahaha! Have thought about getting a wig lol and develop a scenario with it.
Okay, not bad. Not bad at all!

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posted February 01, 2012 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol. If his Mars aspects his Jupiter, drink plenty of water and don't starve yourself before. Virgo is more about doing it right the first time, which can last longer if that's what it takes, especially if Saturn softly aspects Mars.

Can't get enough dirty talk. But since you're dealing with a guy with this placement I'm not sure if it's better to let him initiate such delightful conversations. Making sure that he's comfortable, regardless of gender here, will pay off. Which house is his Mars in? Mine is in the 8H, so whoever came up with the term "Madonna-***** dichotomy" had this in mind (as well as Venus here). Not revealing much, but yeah... It's complete innocence while knowing exactly what it takes.

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posted February 01, 2012 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, actually he has a Mars-Uranus square, the only hard aspect in his chart. Prone to accidents, that I know. It's how I met him after all. Mars funily is in 5th house, Venus in the 8th.
Glad to know the sexy talk is checked. Didn't used to like it before, now can't get enough of it either.

Here, I'll post his chart! I guess it is easier to see it.

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posted February 01, 2012 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow, thank you for the inside-scoop! I think he is quite the confident type, but then again he is Libra Sun and we all know how long it takes for them to decide lol.
Well, if it's about his insecurities, him not making a move is making ME insecure too! Vicious circle! I'm wondering if maybe he saw something he didn't like or I said something wrong or I had a spot on my clothes or something (though I usually check before leaving the house lol).
But, in your case, how many dates does it take to make a move?
He has shown interest. We talk every day, texts/calls, he asks how my day is etc. Last week-end we met every day and he had to clear his schedule for it. But... I do not understand what it is that is keeping him at distance. And honestly it is starting to drive me crazy because I am losing confidence in myself fast.

Well my question for you is how clear have you made things to him? Regarding your feelings and where you want the relationship to be? Because Virgo is all about clarity. We don't do too well in that 'gray' area of 'Oh we're talking' (which is slang for interested and almost dating but not really committed or official). Because that just amplifies our insecurities. Like I said, he could just be doubting how you feel about him. The more clear and direct you are, I think the more results you'll get from him. He might just be terribly afraid of being rejected.

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posted February 01, 2012 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He does have Mars sextile Jupiter, Pluto, and Sun. The orb between Jupiter and Mars is loose, but enough to count in the natal chart; intense, fun, and lively. Mars square Uranus, I've heard, can make a person a tad more than kinky when rubbed the right way... or wrong. But from experience, he can get his kicks from less orthodox sexual pursuits. Nothing creepy, but Uranus also has to do with intellect. Maybe a little game of professor and naughty freshman or reading erotica to each other (something's going on with the transits to my chart ). With Mars in his 5H, maybe include his hobbies somehow or detective scenarios(Uranus in Scorpio).

Venus and Neptune in his 8H, he should have plenty of fantasies he's burning to try out. When you get to this point I think he's definitely going to do his best to keep things exciting.

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posted February 01, 2012 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't like the mars square uranus... Makes sb really impulsive and prone to have a really bad temper. Like explosive and they get mad really easily. I think this is probably accentuated seeing he has an aries rising, leo moon and venus in sag.

Hopefully you'll be able to deal.
http://cafeastrology.com/natal/marsuranusaspects.html

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posted February 01, 2012 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 02, 2012 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Well my question for you is how clear have you made things to him? Regarding your feelings and where you want the relationship to be? Because Virgo is all about clarity. We don't do too well in that 'gray' area of 'Oh we're talking' (which is slang for interested and almost dating but not really committed or official). Because that just amplifies our insecurities. Like I said, he could just be doubting how you feel about him. The more clear and direct you are, I think the more results you'll get from him. He might just be terribly afraid of being rejected.


Well so am I! Really. I have not been upfront with him about my feelings/where I want the relationship to go, but still I have shared more than he has. At least I made him small compliments and told him I enjoy spending time with him. He hasn't once said something nice to me, like I look good tonight or smth. Sometimes when we're together he goes into silent mode, like he's preocupied with something (work most likely). I ask if everything is alright and he's yeah, sure. Very introverted guy, despite all the Air and Fire.
The only thing that could be interpreted as some sort of hint, if there was one, was something he said one night. He was telling me about this female friend of his that has a psychology degree (like I do) and who has been fishing for info and then using it against him. So I said if I ask him stuff, will he think I'm going to do the same? He said no, "we are talking from a different level, you and I"... Whatever that means. That we're more than friends? Because that's how it sounded right then and there. Then said I can always ask him whatever I want.
I do intend to make things clear, I like them crystal too.

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posted February 02, 2012 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He does have Mars sextile Jupiter, Pluto, and Sun. The orb between Jupiter and Mars is loose, but enough to count in the natal chart; intense, fun, and lively. Mars square Uranus, I've heard, can make a person a tad more than kinky when rubbed the right way... or wrong. But from experience, he can get his kicks from less orthodox sexual pursuits. Nothing creepy, but Uranus also has to do with intellect. Maybe a little game of professor and naughty freshman or reading erotica to each other (something's going on with the transits to my chart ). With Mars in his 5H, maybe include his hobbies somehow or detective scenarios(Uranus in Scorpio).

Venus and Neptune in his 8H, he should have plenty of fantasies he's burning to try out. When you get to this point I think he's definitely going to do his best to keep things exciting.


If we ever get there, honey! Yeah, I can sense there is something wild and raw in him (probably Mars/Uranus thing), underneath the surface. Hopefully it won't blow in my face like it usually does.

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posted February 02, 2012 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So I'm seeing a Virgo Mars for the first time. Everything is great, lots of fun and all, but it's been 4 dates and not even a kiss on the cheek. I'm thinking he likes me coz we keep making plans for fun dates and he clears his schedule to go out with me. Butttttttttttt... nothing! I'm okay with it for now, after my last 2 disaster relationships I am enjoying taking it slow, but I'm confused and my insecurity kicked in thinking maybe he doesn't like me enough... or what?!

Help a sister out please and spill! If you dated a Virgo Mars, got any tips? How long will I have to wait? It took him almost 2 years to ask me out for coffee lol. Oh, doesn't he know we Aries are impatient people???

Thank youuuuuuuuuuuu!


LOL.

I dated a Virgo once. It drove me nuts because he was obviously smitten with me but he was very uptight about being physical. I was DYING for it lol. Even a hug, a hand holding. He was very contained. I feel bad for Virgos because as an Aries, I can't imagine what it's like controlling yourself like that all the time. I know, typical me whatever, but seriously! To not be free and untamed? It's unthinkable.

I think Mars in Virgo would definitely be into kinkiness. Maybe he is secretly enjoying seeing your squirm. I doubt he's oblivious even if he acts like it.

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posted February 02, 2012 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't like the mars square uranus... Makes sb really impulsive and prone to have a really bad temper. Like explosive and they get mad really easily. I think this is probably accentuated seeing he has an aries rising, leo moon and venus in sag.

Hopefully you'll be able to deal.
http://cafeastrology.com/natal/marsuranusaspects.html


Yeah, I would expect that too, but he says he has very good self-control. He can overreact about some things (from what he has told me) and blow too hot out of something that could have easily been ignored (in my opinion). This aspect makes him accident prone (had 2 motorcycle accidents, one minor and one that brought him to our hospital 2 years ago), but he has had plenty of other ones, had a few fractured bones in his body and quite a collection of scars. He's also very freedom loving (which is fine with me, I've got the Jup/Uranus conjunction trine my Sun, I need that too) and quite rebellious at times. Or used to be in his younger years. Now he seems more "tamed". I suppose the accident has been a huge lesson for him. He says he is usually a very calm and calculated person, but when he blows, steam is coming out of his ears.
Tbh, I'd like to see some impulsivity on his part.

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posted February 02, 2012 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hera,will you update the thread about the progress?

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posted February 02, 2012 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LOL.

I dated a Virgo once. It drove me nuts because he was obviously smitten with me but he was very uptight about being physical. I was DYING for it lol. Even a hug, a hand holding. He was very contained. I feel bad for Virgos because as an Aries, I can't imagine what it's like controlling yourself like that all the time. I know, typical me whatever, but seriously! To not be free and untamed? It's unthinkable.

I think Mars in Virgo would definitely be into kinkiness. Maybe he is secretly enjoying seeing your squirm. I doubt he's oblivious even if he acts like it.


How long did you guys date for? I think with virgo guys esp, once you break past the barrier they're really soft and sweet and affectionate. Just need to break down the wall which takes some time lol.

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posted February 02, 2012 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They've been on 4 dates!

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posted February 02, 2012 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They've been on 4 dates!

Any other guy would've made a move after 1 or 2.

@Hera - We were together about a year. It took him about 3 months before he was comfortable touching and whatnot.

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posted February 03, 2012 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah. No, he didn't like me enough or that way. Just set the matter straight, over the phone. He said he doesn't have enough time for a relationship, has other priorities bla-bla. Bottom line, he's not interested.

Thank you for your input!

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posted February 03, 2012 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh,I am sorry,Hera...

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posted February 03, 2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, me too. Especially for wasting my time with a double-standard, wishy-washy, mixed signals sender guy. Clearly the Virgo/Libra combination is not one of the most fortunate ones for me.
Sorry for Virgo Marses for saying this, but honestly, for once, start thinking about how the other person might be feeling, not just your own friggin' insecurities and your jobs. It creates a vicious circle, raising insecurity in the other. To be honest, it's been since my teenage years that a man managed to make me feel so low about myself, so worthless.
Seriously, think about the other person's feelings. And if you don't like them, for God's sake, don't drag it on. Be honest with them. Not let them raise their hopes and cry their eyes out afterwards.

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posted February 03, 2012 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So sorry it turned out that way, Hera.

I hope you find someone worthy of your time.
It will happen! Don't despair.

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posted February 03, 2012 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Coming to this late but I have a question.
Why did you raise this so very volatile topic over the phone?! This is like looking for trouble. That's one thing u want to discuss when looking at someone's eyes. He sounded almost defensive. I don't believe he dated you and made plans with you with no intention to touch you ever. At a minimum he DID like you. Cold feet is something you want to talk about very gently and only face to face. Why are you so impatient, woman?!

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posted February 03, 2012 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh, I'm so sorry Hera. In the wise words of my best friend, "boys are stupid."

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posted February 03, 2012 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it's Virgo mars in general, he's just a jerk.

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posted February 03, 2012 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But at least he didn't use you sexually.

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