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Topic: Mars in Virgo - taking time to make the move?
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Capriquarius
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posted February 04, 2012 10:06 PM
  
Yeah, a Virgo's way of showing love and caring is by trying to "improve" the object of affection.This goes for Venus in Virgo as well. I had a "friend" with that Venus and she was constantly telling me to iron my slacks, wear a certain foundation, etc. And when I was looking good in her eyes, she'd be tickled pink. She looked borderline proud. Totally Pygmalion. Scorpio Venus does not like. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 04, 2012 10:13 PM
^ do you do that since you have a virgo rising?
I don't do it much. Think the libra in me does soften me up enough.I don't like to nag. Cos I know how annoying it can be! Lol. IP: Logged |
Capriquarius
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posted February 04, 2012 10:16 PM
Lol YES but to the world at large. My loved ones are exempt. Scorpio Venus conjunct Uranus in Exaltation just can't get enough of them exactly as they are. But yeah, afflicted Pluto in the 1st with Virgo rising is super critical. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted February 05, 2012 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Sounds like a player really.
He probably didn't want to talk about it on the phone. You should ask him in person look at his eyes, body language, etc.
Let him flirt. And enjoy it. Make him want it more while you pretend to be in friends-only zone. 
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... trust me, revenge shall be so sweet! IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted February 05, 2012 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
He made you his project of improvement? That's weird.. Virgos generally won't do that or nag someone (not saying he nagged but they won't criticize) someone they don't care about. But yeah Virgos are SO WEIRD about relationships. They effing LOVE games and they do a very good job turning tables and whatnot. No, it's not just from my bad Virgo guy experience. My oldest friend is a Virgo with Scorpio rising and Libra Venus, Sag moon. What. A. Disaster. Mars in Cancer to top it all off. She knows exactly how to hook guys, bait them, and in the end she just sounds so shallow in her feelings. Like she's not upset for very long after she creates a tornado or anything. You sit back and think "WHAT was the point of alllll that stress?!!"
Well, I do know that he CARES about me. That much I DO know. The problem is things started under a romantic pretense. Personally, I have given up playing games long time ago, but I'm gonna play this one out just for fun. Don't mean to brag or anything, because it's nothing to be proud of, IMO, but I was pretty good at it. What I don't friggin' understand is what the hell he's so afraid of?! And if he is afraid, why the hell did he started this thing anyway? Because at first the third party, that facilitated this, gave me his number, and I didn't contact him. HE contacted ME. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted February 05, 2012 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
^ no offense but I think that's her scorpio rising and cancer mars and her venus square mars.Virgos find games a waste of time. We just won't bother with sb we're not interested in 'normally.'
Well, he's not a Virgo. He's a Libra Sun conj Pluto. I wouldn't put it past him, tbh. I have Sun parallel Pluto myself, lighter version of the conjunction, and know what I could do if I didn't have the beliefs and ethics I do. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted February 05, 2012 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
dude I just realised that this guy has venus square mars too lol!
By sign, not by aspect though. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted February 05, 2012 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Yeah, a Virgo's way of showing love and caring is by trying to "improve" the object of affection.This goes for Venus in Virgo as well. I had a "friend" with that Venus and she was constantly telling me to iron my slacks, wear a certain foundation, etc. And when I was looking good in her eyes, she'd be tickled pink. She looked borderline proud. Totally Pygmalion. Scorpio Venus does not like.
I sort of didn't like it, either. I mean, love is unconditional. It is supposed to be, I don't think it actually is - not the love that is so proclaimed by so many. Shouldn't he accept me as I am?
On the other hand, I have wanted for a while to change some things about me, but I lacked the proper stimulus. So when he came along, I thought why not. I'm versatile enough to adapt to almost anyone, if I really want to, but most of the time I don't. I saw something in him that made it seem like he was worth the effort. For now, that little bit is going to be on pause. If games is what he's after, we're gonna play. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 05, 2012 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Well, he's not a Virgo. He's a Libra Sun conj Pluto. I wouldn't put it past him, tbh. I have Sun parallel Pluto myself, lighter version of the conjunction, and know what I could do if I didn't have the beliefs and ethics I do.
I have sun sextile pluto (1 degree) and pluto singleton in the 8th house scorpio lol so I'm quite plutonian too. I don't play mind games. I think it's time to step away from this guy. Playing games with him is a waste of your precious time imo. Just cut your losses. Wasting anymore energy on him in any way shows him how invested you are in him. Indifference is what you should go towards. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted February 05, 2012 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I have sun sextile pluto (1 degree) and pluto singleton in the 8th house scorpio lol so I'm quite plutonian too. I don't play mind games.I think it's time to step away from this guy. Playing games with him is a waste of your precious time imo. Just cut your losses. Wasting anymore energy on him in any way shows him how invested you are in him. Indifference is what you should go towards.
Well, my emotional involvement has significantly dropped because of how he acted. He's a coward, not a real man. Aries Mars not likey. I would have respected him more, honest to God, if he would have told me "hey, you're just not my type/I don't see a future for us/I don't like you that way" whatever. But coming up with a lame excuse that he doesn't have time for a relationship?? Why the hell did he start this in the first place then?
He rubbed me the wrong way and now I'm going to make HIM my project of improvement. He needs to learn this is no way to treat a lady. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 05, 2012 12:30 AM
One of my exes screwed me up really badly. Like to the extent where I'm still finding it hard to get my head around how a human being could possibly be so lacking in empathy and consideration of others.I COULD'VE easily said some stuff to him or gotten revenge that would really hurt him (I know where to kick him where it hurts) but nah. I chose to be the bigger person.
Besides, doesn't change a thing nor change the past. Don't really want to lower myself to his level.
I know your guy was kinda a jerk, but don't make it a big deal. It's seriously not worth the effort. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted February 05, 2012 12:37 AM
I know, Mintgirl. I usually take that route too. I have never got revenge on anyone in my life, though God knows I was tempted. It's like you said, I thought it is beneath my dignity. But on the other hand, jerks need to understand their behaviour is not ok. I guess his Sun on my Mars-Pluto opposition just got activated. I really hoped it wouldn't produce psychological game playing, but I do seem to attract that every time, perhaps it is also a clue for myself as well. I thought our synastry was pretty good-ish..  IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted February 05, 2012 03:57 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
What I don't friggin' understand is what the hell he's so afraid of?! And if he is afraid, why the hell did he started this thing anyway? Because at first the third party, that facilitated this, gave me his number, and I didn't contact him. HE contacted ME.
I don't know to be honest. I never understood it either. that's the thing with my Virgo. We didn't go very far physically and were technically not bf/gf but the emotions and drama was still there so I call it what it was. There was still the possessiveness and jealousy. I think they worry a lot more than they convey. Even more than acknowledging they're worrying, their anxiety must be through the roof because they are HUGE planners. Down to the last movement like adjusting in your seat for something.
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mintgirl123
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posted February 05, 2012 04:11 AM
So if a virgo guy brushes his hand on yours, it's never an accident?
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Hera
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posted February 05, 2012 04:37 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I don't know to be honest. I never understood it either. that's the thing with my Virgo. We didn't go very far physically and were technically not bf/gf but the emotions and drama was still there so I call it what it was. There was still the possessiveness and jealousy. I think they worry a lot more than they convey. Even more than acknowledging they're worrying, their anxiety must be through the roof because they are HUGE planners. Down to the last movement like adjusting in your seat for something.
Yeah, he did say he is a very calculated person. I guess, though he doesn't have anything else in Virgo but his Mars, that 6H stellium tends to run with the chart.
But that's not all he is. I mean, he had lots of broken bones from accidents. So clearly not as calculated as he thinks he is. He's also quite the rebel and also has a romantic side in him (barely visible, but I got a shot at it). Over all, my first impression of him when I met him in the ER was that he is an interesting guy, but a bit of a wacko. I guess being a patient mellowed him a lot, during our dates he has shown me a completely different side of him.
Maybe I disrupted his planning phase with my Aries directiveness, but didn't think it was going to be such a messy deal since his ideal woman indicators are both in fire. I thought he might apreciate a more straigh-forward approach. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted February 05, 2012 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
So if a virgo guy brushes his hand on yours, it's never an accident?
LOL. I'm curious about this too. Exactly how calculated are they?
Because now the last date comes into mind, which was very intimate and romantic. He had planned it a few days before. He told me he's gonna take me somewhere special and didn't tell me what it was until we got there. He dressed differently for it and picked me up at my place by car (which he had to go on the other side of the city to get - this is one of the weirdest things I ever heard... keeping your car so far away and going to work by foot/subway... especially with this icy cold weather... but I guess that's just me). So he definitely planned a romantic date for us. It was the first time he ever came to pick me up and he dressed more... classier (probably because there was this huge gap between us at the ballet, me in black dress and heals, him in jeans). At that teahouse he took me, there were ONLY couples at the tables. And I mean, ONLY! Kissing, touching etc. It was quite tense for me because we were practically glued side by side (our couch was very small). WTF?
Why he reacted the way he did and what exactly is going on in that head of his is still a mistery to me. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted February 05, 2012 06:10 AM
Could it be he finds you out of his league?
So many men are thinking this way that it has to be factored in. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted February 05, 2012 09:41 AM
It has crossed my mind, to be honest. Men tend to put me on a pedestal, usually because their Neptunes conjunct my Moon (men my age, I mean).
And yeah, I guess it's the doctor-patient thing too. He was powerless in our control, though I honestly cannot consider him MY patient.
All the time I thought I wasn't good enough for him. IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted February 05, 2012 10:43 AM
I'm familiar with this pattern too.
The pedestal thing is maddening. They never get to know the real you; you're just this illusion in their minds. And of course you don't feel the connection is real because it isn't until they get to know the real you... IP: Logged |
anongrl10
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posted February 06, 2012 04:22 AM
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Ami Anne
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posted February 06, 2012 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Yes, it is written everywhere that Virgo Marses are full of surprises in bed, but what exactly is kinky to them??
 I never knew someone with a Virgo Mars. Virgo seems like a strange sign to me, in that I cannot understand it. It is a square to my Gem stellium. Maybe, that is why.
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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted February 06, 2012 08:11 AM
I have Virgo Mars, but I'm a woman, so I don't know if input is still valid. And just for the record, there is nothing "accidental" about anything I do, or who I pursue. Maybe you can chalk it off to Pluto/Saturn in Scorpio in the 7th, but I know/find out/scour important details about the one I'm into, and use it to better understand and approach them. It does take me a while to get the nerve, and when I was younger, never had the guts to make overt moves, as I was much more subtle and intense. The object of my affection better smell phenomenal, have great grooming habits, speak intelligently, understand my natural habits of taking it slow and not be into playing head games or I'm gone...faster than you can blink. Oh, and I *never* make the first move unless I am about to lose what I want.IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted February 09, 2012 10:38 AM
Thank you Ami and VAA!The development of this situation lead us into a series of heavy flirting texts (the word handcuffs was used ) aaand him asking me for another date, which will take place on Saturday.
I have no clue what to expect, so I'm not going to expect anything  . I plan to go there lightheartedly and make the most of it. At least, he's a fun person to have around and we have nice witty conversations which I enjoy immensely.
I did however notice a change in him, like he's gotten more courageous over the sudden after I confessed my interest in him. Maybe it's like you guys said, he needed to figure out if I want him first. Guess time will tell, but I don't plan on hoping anything. He ruined my last week-end so I won't let him ruin this one too. The revenge plans have gone down the drain, it has never been in my character. I'm still somewhat hurt by his rejection (who wouldn't be?), but that's no reason to act like that. I sort of resigned to the thought that right now romantic bliss is out of reach for me so I should stop struggling to get anything moving because it just won't. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 09, 2012 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Virgo-AriesArtist:
I have Virgo Mars, but I'm a woman, so I don't know if input is still valid. And just for the record, there is nothing "accidental" about anything I do, or who I pursue. Maybe you can chalk it off to Pluto/Saturn in Scorpio in the 7th, but I know/find out/scour important details about the one I'm into, and use it to better understand and approach them. It does take me a while to get the nerve, and when I was younger, never had the guts to make overt moves, as I was much more subtle and intense. The object of my affection better smell phenomenal, have great grooming habits, speak intelligently, understand my natural habits of taking it slow and not be into playing head games or I'm gone...faster than you can blink. Oh, and I *never* make the first move unless I am about to lose what I want.
Lol yeah. I think I'm really picky with guys. I 'judge' them straight away (not superficially) but when I talk to them, I observe their 'air.' Like how they come across, the way they stand, their facial expressions, the way they talk... Their voice etc lol. Intelligence is HUGE! But they need to be interesting and witty. Book smarts ain't enough. I get bored really easily so gotta keep me on my feet! And ^ so you're gonna give him another shot? Haha good luck then! IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted February 09, 2012 11:54 PM
I don't know, Mintgirl. It doesn't seem like something will come out of it romantically, but I do apreciate what he has taught me and brought in my life (after meeting him, I quit smoking, started dieting again and even exercising regularly... becoming healthier, proactive... kind of ironic if you think the roles have become reversed). To be honest, I don't know if that's not why I want to hang onto him no matter what, he has a good influence on me and I really needed that in my life, but I may be doing it for the wrong reasons (ie wanting a relationship with him). Perhaps we were never meant to become a couple, just teach each other things as friends. And it is fine with me, as long as I know this is how I stand. Because up until our talk, my impression was that we were dating to become a couple. So I guess starting that talk was not that bad. What I don't get though is why is he still flirting with me?
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