posted March 14, 2012 09:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ You really are a beautiful person, I love your writing, and I guess it's weird to blurt that out, however: I was thinking it.

Thanks for your contributions.

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Was this for me, Faith?

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posted March 14, 2012 11:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
That certainly makes sense. I have Neptune square Moon and grew up ignoring my emotional state. As I got older, believing the gravity of my own emotional and personal space, became difficult. I have set aside a lot of care to make sure I listen to my self emotionally. In the beginning It was a lot like listening to static on the radio, but when I was ready, some pretty gnarly emotions began to arise. It was pretty surprising to experience such strong emotion because after I shut down, any emotion which came up seemed to lack genuineness. I knew the emotion was there, and I could feel it, but only the tip of the iceberg would ever surface, so it always felt a bit fake.

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posted March 14, 2012 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I was also going to add that I wonder if Sun square Neptune causes someone to doubt or not believe in themselves. I reason this seeing as how Neptune rules Pisces, which is co-ruled by Jupiter, and Jupiter rules Sagittarius which I somehow associated with religion and a "belief system." Does that make any kind of sense?!

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of course neptune (like any planet actually) has positve and negative traits, the easy aspects like sextiles and trines and hard ones like conjunctions squares and oppositions....

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The examples you gave were all hard aspects, so that could be part of the reason these situations resulted in people making poor decisions. =) I think another reason Neptune gets a bad rep is because we tend to notice planetary energies when they act like the adjectives we see attributed them, but there is often much more to be found beyond those descriptions. Neptune for example, is not only present when a person drives off a cliff while texting, but it exists when something beautiful touches you deeply, gives you chills, or moves you to tears. The positives of Neptune are big (like Jupiter), nebulous, unconditional, and hard to pin down. They are experiential, not describable, they move us to real states of timeless clarity, and condition-shattering awareness. They reveal the pain and pleasure of others as our own and make us want to give up everything for collective peace.

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perhaps by reading other peoples' experiences of hard aspects people could revise there opinions of Neptune being malific...

posted March 14, 2012 05:32 PM            

Thanks for explaining transpersonal. As usual when I "listen" to you my mind goes into 3D mode. Your students must love you.

With Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, would it be fair to say that the energies of these planets can be used as a "bridge" between the personal planetary energies and the "beyond," PROVIDED of course, the transpersonal energies have been assimilated, harmonized, and integrated within the self?
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"So Neptune is conjunct DESC and might crop up especially in relationships or in your attitude towards relationship.
Are you quite dreamy? Idealistic? Striving for that elusive true love? That spiritual soulmate relationship, and nothing less would ever be enough?
Sometimes wearing too rose coloured glasses, only to then discover that your partners is simply human as well?"

With Neptune conj. Desc., the orb is about 5. Dreamy, check. Idealistic, check. Search for the elusive true love ... not so much, wearing rose colored glasses ... not so much. When faced w/ others' humanity, I can usually understand intentions very quickly (see thro' people). This understanding arouses compassion in me, while, at the same time, allowing me to take appropriate steps to either protect myself or those I love, OR be receptive to them if I sense purity behind the intentions.

The frailty of our humanness doesn't bother me too much. I feel everyone has a right to survive as best as they know how (w/out impinging on another's rights).

My Sun Gemini, moon Taurus combo description fits me to a T. Part of it is (posted by SaggiMC on the Sun/Moon combo thread) ...

"Highly understanding of a broad cross section of people, you are rarely fooled or taken in. You are too smart for most people with whom you come into contest, but you won't hurt their feelings by letting them know they have a lot to learn."

I'm assuming the being "too smart for most people" means something along the same lines as not being fooled by others.

However, I've known from a very young age that in love, I would want to be with someone who is understanding, gentle, compassionate, and genuinely kind. Without these qualities, I am usually unmoved no matter how rich, materially successful, good looking, etc., he may be.

"Of course that is a worst case scenario. In a better case he could be really spiritual, compassionate, gentle, artistic, creative, forgiving etc."

Yep! This is what my SO is (I feel), among other things. My heart automatically opened up to him as it has to no one else. I feel astrologically, he embodies my 7th hse qualities, and in real life we complement each other in all ways.

posted March 14, 2012 06:03 PM            

Thank you for re posting info on Neptune in the houses. Very informative. Also the info on quincunxes.

Guess what I realized last night?! That Neptune is frickin'(LOL) quincunxing my Sun and Merc. as well! Yikes!

I think I need to get to the bottom of the Neptune and chiron mystery in my chart, if only to figure out what has prevented me from becoming a full blown case of Schizophrenia

Right off the bat I can say I do not relate to the Mars quincunx Neptune description, "you are drawn to 'questionable relationships' with a tendency to dismiss or overlook pertinent factors as insignificant until you realise it's too late and perhaps you should have paid more attention."

If you knew how squeaky clean my life is, you'd probably laugh. Never been attracted to questionable people, bad boy types, drugs, smoking, or even alcohol.

The Sun Gemini moon Taurus combo you posted fits me to a T. It says, "Highly understanding of a broad cross section of people, you are rarely fooled or taken in. You are too smart for most people with whom you come into contest, but you won't hurt their feelings by letting them know they have a lot to learn."

I'm taking the "too smart for most people" to mean not getting fooled by others.

Anyway, I'm gonna look into this whole darn Neptune-chiron thing by digging to kingdom come. Merc. aspecting Pluto (orb of 7). Now this aspect I can definitely relate to, despite it being kinda wide for you

I'm sure when I'm done, I'll be back w/ some final questions/clarifications before letting it rest.

Meanwhile, I'm very curious to read about your own experience w/ singleton Neptune opposite moon. Couldn't find the thread. Would you post the link for me please?

posted March 15, 2012 05:54 PM            

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Basic astrology forum discussing Neptune in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000661.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

posted March 15, 2012 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Mblake81:
[B] Listen Miss,

I read your direct questions and musings and I gave direct answers.
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I haven't asked questions, this is Ami ann's thread not mine. Why not respond to HER instead of being abrupt and negative with me...?

Please in future try not to be sooo condesending by addressing me as Little Miss, as I'm mid 50's with over 20years expereince in astrology, have taught astrology in adult educ, do public speaking and qualified as guest lecturer on board cruise ships.....

posted March 15, 2012 06:11 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Saggi - Please ignore any of my threads and comments, thank you.

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you can ask as much as you want, what's your problem? I cannot guarantee not to respond to you or any member now or in the future. If you don't like my responses, please feel free to ignore them.....

posted March 15, 2012 09:51 PM            

I'm just gonna list them...
Sun trine Neptune
Moon opposition Neptune
Mercury trine Neptune
Venus trine Neptune
Mars biquintile Neptune
Saturn conjunct Neptune
Uranus conjunct Neptune
Pluto sextile Neptune (I think most people have this)

and ASC trine Neptune.

I'm kind of suspecting Neptune of blurring the true colour of my planets. I never feel any description is really right for them.
I also just ignore unpleasent things and problems. It comes naturally to me to thing that all will solve itself and if it doesn't I 'll just walk away. But I don't fear confrontation at all. I'm quite good at debating with people.

I feel like Jupiter (has only one major aspect) has the most room to breathe in my chart. And I alway feel it's presence.

posted March 15, 2012 09:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ You really are a beautiful person, I love your writing, and I guess it's weird to blurt that out, however: I was thinking it.

Thanks for your contributions.

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I assume this was for me. I hope so lol
Thank you, Faith!!!

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posted March 16, 2012 02:14 AM            

From my post of 5:32 pm on this page (aside from my ques. on transpersonal planets, what do you think of my approach, given my Neptune is conj. Desc. (orb of about 5).

Do you think it's a more or less practical one, or is it off the bend Neptunian?

Also, his Neptune is touching my Desc. from the 6th hse. side w/ an orb of 2 deg 15 mins. What effect is this supposed to have on me and what on him?

I wonder if this is why I feel so good w/ him. But it does not blind me to his shortfalls. Without glossing over his shortfalls, I just seem to keep loving him. He's completely an open book to me.

posted March 16, 2012 03:32 AM            

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you can ask as much as you want, what's your problem? I cannot guarantee not to respond to you or any member now or in the future. If you don't like my responses, please feel free to ignore them.....

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posted March 16, 2012 04:31 AM            

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Ceridwen,

From my post of 5:32 pm on this page (aside from my ques. on transpersonal planets, what do you think of my approach, given my Neptune is conj. Desc. (orb of about 5).

Do you think it's a more or less practical one, or is it off the bend Neptunian?

Also, his Neptune is touching my Desc. from the 6th hse. side w/ an orb of 2 deg 15 mins. What effect is this supposed to have on me and what on him?

I wonder if this is why I feel so good w/ him. But it does not blind me to his shortfalls. Without glossing over his shortfalls, I just seem to keep loving him. He's completely an open book to me.

Thank you for answering and I hope today will be just as good for you as yesterday.

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I have a thought on this Linda. What touches your DSC, is what you NEED from another person. Hence, you project it from yourself onto him and can receive it from him. This is what the DSC does, for everyone. With Neptune, he may make you feel as if you are living in a musical lol Does he?

posted March 16, 2012 08:26 AM            

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
my questions never get answered on this side...do they not appear? hm

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posted March 16, 2012 08:28 AM            

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Has the amount of Neptune aspect some kind of impact? All my planets except Jupiter make aspects with Neptune.

I'm just gonna list them...
Sun trine Neptune
Moon opposition Neptune
Mercury trine Neptune
Venus trine Neptune
Mars biquintile Neptune
Saturn conjunct Neptune
Uranus conjunct Neptune
Pluto sextile Neptune (I think most people have this)

and ASC trine Neptune.

I'm kind of suspecting Neptune of blurring the true colour of my planets. I never feel any description is really right for them.
I also just ignore unpleasent things and problems. It comes naturally to me to thing that all will solve itself and if it doesn't I 'll just walk away. But I don't fear confrontation at all. I'm quite good at debating with people.

I feel like Jupiter (has only one major aspect) has the most room to breathe in my chart. And I alway feel it's presence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnk0Y12BPNA&feature=related

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I will come back and look! Did not mean to ignore you Sweetie! Always ask if it is on one of my threads! I get scattered as I have an earth void lol

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posted March 16, 2012 01:54 PM            

I'm just gonna list them...
Sun trine Neptune
Moon opposition Neptune
Mercury trine Neptune
Venus trine Neptune
Mars biquintile Neptune
Saturn conjunct Neptune
Uranus conjunct Neptune
Pluto sextile Neptune (I think most people have this)

and ASC trine Neptune.

Darling
Before I put the time into this--put up the orbs as if some are wide, the influence would be lesser.

posted March 16, 2012 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I assume this was for me. I hope so lol
Thank you, Faith!!!

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Ami Anne,

You ARE a beautiful soul, I LOVE your writing, and you are helping more than you could possibly know!

I was talking to Xiiro with that comment, the mix-up is MY fault, but there's no "mix up" when I truly appreciate you, too, and ANY opportunity to state the fact is fine by me!

Love you, you ARE amazing!

posted March 16, 2012 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Ami Anne,

You ARE a beautiful soul, I LOVE your writing, and you are helping more than you could possibly know!

I was talking to Xiiro with that comment, the mix-up is MY fault, but there's no "mix up" when I truly appreciate you, too, and ANY opportunity to state the fact is fine by me!

Love you, you ARE amazing!

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May I put your beautiful words on my website. I can use your name Faith and a city if I may?

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posted March 16, 2012 03:50 PM            

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I have a thought on this Linda. What touches your DSC, is what you NEED from another person. Hence, you project it from yourself onto him and can receive it from him. This is what the DSC does, for everyone. With Neptune, he may make you feel as if you are living in a musical lol Does he?

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Thank you for pointing this out. And yes, now that I think about it, he does make me feel like I'm living in a musical (lol). My heart sings, and I have a jump in my step (I actually skip sometimes when I walk w/ him-something he laughs at). Even after knowing him for several years the feeling hasn't dimmed.

But does this astro energy tend to work both ways? He's told me that whenever he's with me, the rest of the world fades away. Would this indicate that his Neptune touching my Desc. affects him similarly?

Also, when you say, "you project it from yourself onto him and can receive it from him," does it mean I'm making it up in my head and it's not real, 'cause the psychological meaning of the term projection is associated more or less with separating yourself from what's actually going on (I think).

Would you please clarify astrologically, Ami? And sorry if I'm confusing the term "project"