posted March 20, 2012 07:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Saggi, using someone else's birth chart as a platform for harsh criticism lacks heart and is unprofessional.

It's more important to make sure your heart is in the right place than the make sure your orbs are acceptable to the Experts.

Peace

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My heart IS in the 'right place' but I doubt and question yours as you have already made a mountain out of a molehill here. I notice you simply could not let this go and started another thread to discuss LL response to so called flame war type threads. Which is fine by me. but this 'cavalair attitude' of defending other members is wearing thin...really thin..

using someone birth chart to explain things is *extremely valid* expressionn and use of astrology!!

My heart IS to help others to be of service, maybe my choice of words is not upto what YOU would prefer to see around here. But I can assure you it was NOT done with malice.... but more tongue in cheek

I am sure AmiAnn can speak up for herself here and although a mouthpeice such as yourself is helpful I see ithis mutal adoration society.. lov you sweetie to.
Love ya, love ya , love ya.
Sweetie...as unnecessary expressions..

posted March 20, 2012 07:36 AM            

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posted March 20, 2012 07:41 AM            

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But even if they're wide - shouldn't they still 'cloud' the planet in a certain way? And are there planets who benefit or even disable Neptunes tendencies?

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yes Saturn gives a huge reality dose. It's not called a malific planet for nothing..

posted March 20, 2012 09:03 AM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
My heart IS in the 'right place' but I doubt and question yours as you have already made a mountain out of a molehill here. I notice you simply could not let this go and started another thread to discuss LL response to so called flame war type threads. Which is fine by me. but this 'cavalair attitude' of defending other members is wearing thin...really thin..

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When I see one person being treated badly by another, I react.

If you feel that there was no attacking going on here at LL, you're entitled to your opinion.

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using someone birth chart to explain things is *extremely valid* expressionn and use of astrology!!

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It's not merely explaining "things." Astrology is a personal art and ought to be therapeutic. Anything less falls short of the calling of the astrologer.

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My heart IS to help others to be of service, maybe my choice of words is not upto what YOU would prefer to see around here.

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True. Your choice of words often offends me. I don't mean to control you, but for the sake of honesty, I am letting you know.

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But I can assure you it was NOT done with malice.... but more tongue in cheek

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I believe you, but please be aware that others like myself will be relieved if you make that more clear.

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I am sure AmiAnn can speak up for herself here and although a mouthpeice such as yourself is helpful I see ithis mutal adoration society.. lov you sweetie to.
Love ya, love ya , love ya.
Sweetie...as unnecessary expressions..

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Your criticism has been noted, Saggi. However, surely the tolerance you expect from others, you will grant to me, to speak my mind freely.

Best wishes to you.

posted March 20, 2012 10:15 AM            

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When I see one person being treated badly by another, I react.

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It's not merely explaining "things." Astrology is a personal art and ought to be therapeutic. Anything less falls short of the calling of the astrologer.

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True. Your choice of words often offends me. I don't mean to control you, but for the sake of honesty, I am letting you know.

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Being of service and helping others, does not mean I want to engage in a popularity contest either. personally I'm not concerned what you think of me. I'm sure if ami ann has an issue she will address me directly rather than have the secretary of her fan club do it for her....sweetie, sweetie, LOL love ya sweetie,sweetie

posted March 20, 2012 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Saggi, I'm willing to start a new thread where we can discuss our differences, or you can email me privately if you prefer. Let me know and I will give you my email.

My apologies for taking up too much space on this thread.

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I suspect you will at any given opportunity,'create mountains out of molehills'as this is your nature, core beliefs... at any possible or perceived 'slight' against your favourite members....now and in the future... so whats the point

if this were my thread I would be complaining of derailing.... this is why certain things are best discussed by using some sort of report feature. But here I seen only recently that each Mod has an email for contact and of course the 'contact me' to speak with Randell direcrting. But I expect your fingers have been busy doing this already..

I am here to help members not argue with you.

posted March 20, 2012 01:38 PM            

Thank you for your latest response.

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"So, even if my Neptune is in hard aspects to inner planets, it still helps me recognize, usually fairly quickly, what someone is really about. I consider this a huge benefit in my day-to-day life."
Yes, the challenging aspects often simply increase the intensity / energy, but do not necessarily mean a "bad" thing. It depends on the planetary picture.
The possibility of extreme manifestation is just bigger with challenging aspects.

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The following really helps my understanding...
"Yes, the challenging aspects often simply increase the intensity / energy, but do not necessarily mean a "bad" thing. It depends on the planetary picture.
The possibility of extreme manifestation is just bigger with challenging aspects."

posted March 20, 2012 04:49 PM            

from Presevering the atmosphere thread,which has been closed now....so I have no avenue to respond except here....

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Peace, Saggi!
On the Neptune thread, I invited you to continue our discussion on another thread or over private email.

Did you know our north nodes are conjunct?

Oops, I will let YOU decide the orb

But we have stuff to learn from each other.

Thank you.

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Now I have responded to your request (earlier on this thread) for an email discussion as being pointless. yet again you publicly wish to members to see you as some squeaky clean person around here --- which you are definately NOT...

posted March 20, 2012 06:56 PM            

I'm sorry if I offended you. I thought we could work out our differences civilly in private. I was not ungrateful for your call for peace. I was trying to move forward in that direction.

It would have been better, I see, to drop this conversation here entirely.

Still, for you to accuse me of various things, like reporting on you and not being "clean," that is uncalled for. And you accuse me of derailing when it was your off-topic deriding of Ami that impelled me to speak up.

posted March 20, 2012 08:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Saggi,

I'm sorry if I offended you. I thought we could work out our differences civilly in private. I was not ungrateful for your call for peace. I was trying to move forward in that direction.

It would have been better, I see, to drop this conversation here entirely.

Still, for you to accuse me of various things, like reporting on you and not being "clean," that is uncalled for. And you accuse me of derailing when it was your off-topic deriding of Ami that impelled me to speak up.

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for someone who gets Sooo upset over words, I will repeat for the sake of clarity here.]
I said, "But I expect your fingers have been busy doing this already..
But I expect your fingers have been busy doing this already.."

So I suspect/expect this of you, since you are So active behaving like a moderator yourself around here that it was an easy assumption to make that you would have comlained to Randell of me ...

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not being "clean," that is uncalled for

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posted March 20, 2012 08:31 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:

I have no idea where on earth you got this from, neither am I interested in pursuing it either. Goodnight, god bless...

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You wrote:

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yet again you publicly wish to members to see you as some squeaky clean person around here --- which you are definately NOT...

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You sent me heart and smiles earlier. I thought things were looking up. Next thing I know, you are insulting me.

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So I suspect/expect this of you, since you are So active behaving like a moderator yourself around here that it was an easy assumption to make that you would have comlained to Randell of me ...

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About WHAT Saggi? Tell me what part of this conversation you assume I might get troubled about. Is your assumption maybe based on awareness of what you are doing to me here?

I'm sorry that this post is marked with a smiley face, it was just an oversight on my part, and there was no intention of being fake. Because I am not happy.

posted March 20, 2012 10:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have learned in 3 years of doing it wrong that if I don't get along with someone, I just ignore. That is the fastest, best and cleanest way to resolve something that is going round and round.
It took me three years to realize I don't have to answer anyone back lol

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Ami Anne,

With all due respect, and you know I love you, I cannot ignore a problem that threatens others. It's not about my ego. I'm thinking of other members and doing what I wish someone else had done for me- sticking my neck out and saying, "That is not acceptable." In the hopes of fixing the problem BEFORE they get hurt.

But as I said, if I am disagreement with the community, I will leave.

No hard feelings.

Goodbye, and I truly wish you all the best.