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Ami Anne
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posted March 12, 2012 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just shared something with Saggi MC. I want to put it here and get your opinions.

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posted March 12, 2012 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Now Neptune dissolves things, causes confusion, illusions and rose tinted glasses especially if in hard aspect to Angles or planets. It can be a spiritual, artistic awakening, but there are not many people who can advance or benefit their lives (unless there is natal potential of course) with Neptune. But having said this if you are 'supposed' to be Learning a Lesson in this life and Neptune draws a veil across your mind so you don't see things clearly enough to be objective--- then this pawn in chess has done it's job

Saggi said this.

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posted March 12, 2012 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You know Saggi, I just got something on Neptune.I have neptune in the 1st House.It trines Sun and mercury in the 9th. I have felt that I had to struggle not to lose my mind.I know that sounds terrible but I was always afraid I would dissolve. I have an earth void too.

I have had to force myself to put invisible roots in to the ground. I have moon trine Saturn but it is 9 degrees so may not count or be weak. However, I think it is the feeling of Neptune dissolving. I can only imagine how hard the Neptune square mercury may be.



I said this. Please try to tell me how Neptune feels to you from the inside. Any info is welcome but that is my main thrust in doing this thread. Thanks!

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posted March 12, 2012 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
then neptune conj eros wants to melt with you lol! eh this is my weakest planet actually. i also have moon inconjunct neptune. moon is on the mc..

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posted March 12, 2012 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by s4nd:
then neptune conj eros wants to melt with you lol! eh this is my weakest planet actually. i also have moon inconjunct neptune. moon is on the mc..

I have moon conj the MC too. That is why we are so open about our business

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posted March 12, 2012 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could dissolve?

Neptune in the Fourth House
Neptune in Sagittarius
Neptune Opposition Midheaven
Neptune Square Mars
Neptune Square Ascendant
Neptune Sextile Jupiter
Neptune Sextile Saturn
Neptune Sextile Pluto

Symbolic:

"A lightning-struck tree is about to fall on a man who is leaning over a bridge parapet and stares at the torrent raging below him."

Sad, withdrawn, and pessimistic character. One is disheartened by the failure of professional projects and by repeated disappointing romances and friends. Suicidal tendencies can be efficiently offset by physical exercise and the practice of a sport such as tennis, alpinism, or football

Neptune in Sagittarius may turn you into a monk, a visionary, or an active idealist willing to change the world. Rebellion and inspiration at the service of a sacred cause.

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posted March 12, 2012 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mblake Sweetie
Write the orbs
like Neptune conj MC ( 2 degrees)

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posted March 12, 2012 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't get this:

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It can be a spiritual, artistic awakening, but there are not many people who can advance or benefit their lives (unless there is natal potential of course) with Neptune.

Why not?

I have Venus almost conjunct Neptune (6 degrees apart) and I've had to change from a person who puts everyone up on a pedestal to someone who is more sensible and discerning.

Astrology helps me discern.

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posted March 12, 2012 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mblake Sweetie
Write the orbs
like Neptune conj MC ( 2 degrees)


I will have to get back to you on the degrees.

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posted March 12, 2012 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't get this:

Why not?

I have Venus almost conjunct Neptune (6 degrees apart) and I've had to change from a person who puts everyone up on a pedestal to someone who is more sensible and discerning.

Astrology helps me discern.



Totally Faith!

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posted March 12, 2012 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Basic astrology forum discussing Neptune in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000661.html

NEPTUNE DEFINITION KEYWORDS;

Artistic, emotional, sensitive, mediumistic, wandering, ¬sentimental, subtle, deceptive, subversive, imaginative, rhythmic, spirituality, unstable, sacrifice, head in the clouds.

Rules Drugs of all types , alcohol, tobacco, heroin, ether & anaesthetic, Gas lighting. Anything elusive, water has to be put in pipes.

Wherever your Neptune is, "is where you carry your cross and where you will be called upon to make a sacrifice!" True sacrifices are never usually recognised, or else they could turn into martyrdom!

Ascendant sun and mc in pisces or neptune in the 1st house
rules pituitary gland, feet, and sleeping rhythms. bad aspects may cause sleep disorders, such as insomnia.


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posted March 12, 2012 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't get this:

Why not?

I have Venus almost conjunct Neptune (6 degrees apart) and I've had to change from a person who puts everyone up on a pedestal to someone who is more sensible and discerning.

Astrology helps me discern.


well if you care to post your chart for a proper evaluation? Do you have a lot of earth planets per chance?

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posted March 12, 2012 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also Saggi, Faiths Saturn may come in to play as a grounding factor. Maybe she has Moon trine Saturn so can ground herself.

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posted March 12, 2012 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mblake81:
Could dissolve?

Neptune in the Fourth House
Neptune in Sagittarius
Neptune Opposition Midheaven
Neptune Square Mars
Neptune Square Ascendant
Neptune Sextile Jupiter
Neptune Sextile Saturn
Neptune Sextile Pluto

Symbolic:

"A lightning-struck tree is about to fall on a man who is leaning over a bridge parapet and stares at the torrent raging below him."

Sad, withdrawn, and pessimistic character. One is disheartened by the failure of professional projects and by repeated disappointing romances and friends. Suicidal tendencies can be efficiently offset by physical exercise and the practice of a sport such as tennis, alpinism, or football

Neptune in Sagittarius may turn you into a monk, a visionary, or an active idealist willing to change the world. Rebellion and inspiration at the service of a sacred cause.


Ami ann was discussing generics for neptune not aspects in particular, BUT I notice you have mars/neptune square

Mars square Neptune
Mars Neptune Square Mars Neptune Opposition
Painful things either ignored ie self deception, or hypochondriac type, imaginary things (Neptune) Deceive or be deceived http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Mars_square_Neptune http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13104&page=2 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11521 http://astrology.astrozoom.com/index.php?title=NEPTUNE_PARALLEL% 2C_CONJUNCTION%2C_SQUARE_OR_OPPOSITION_TO_MARS


Could dissolve? why not replace with *make sacrifices* or not see things clearly even...

lastly, I notice neptune sextiles saturn, giving it grounding and dose of reality.

Really we need to take into account the whole chart... but simply generics and what neptune means and stands for is the starting point.

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posted March 12, 2012 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't get this:
[quote]
It can be a spiritual, artistic awakening, but there are not many people who can advance or benefit their lives(unless there is natal potential of course) with Neptune.

Why not?

I have Venus almost conjunct Neptune (6 degrees apart) and I've had to change from a person who puts everyone up on a pedestal to someone who is more sensible and discerning.

Astrology helps me discern. [/QUOTE]

your natal chart is YOUR blueprint for this lifetime --- yes? it's ALL about potential, what we do with our lives. some of us fulfil that potential,others don't. the natal chart can highlight your strengths and weaknesses, it's your roadmap of who you are...

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posted March 12, 2012 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep I have a very wide trine of Saturn to the Moon but i feel on myself calling on it when I feel I am gonna fall off the side of the earth

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posted March 12, 2012 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune conjunct Mars in 12th house, ASC and NN, and it squares chartruler Jupiter in Pisces.
ASC is on the exact midpoint of Mars/Neptune, so I think I qualify as "Neptunian", and yet I am not sure how to answer the question.
What do you mean with "dissolve"?

What I noticed is that I am hypersensitive towards environmental influences (noise, lights etc.) and also towards "emotional vibes" from others.
Sometimes it is not easy to decern if I feel another person`s feeling or if it is my own.

I have found that listening and observing my physical reactions to something is a good guideline for being certain that it really is MY feeling and not someone else`s or what I REALLY feel as opposed to what I think I feel, or should feel or fantasize about.

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posted March 12, 2012 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I asked you this Ceri but is your 12th House Mars within 10 degrees of the ASC?

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posted March 12, 2012 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, it is. Some astrologers would count Mars into the 1st house. It is only 2 degrees off my ASC and in the same sign as the ASC.
I am not totally sure though. the combo Mars/Neptune is emphasized multiple times, so how am I to say if it is really Mars in 12th house or Neptune conjunct ASC or Mars conjunct Neptune or ASC conjunct Mars/Neptune-mp that I relate to?

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posted March 12, 2012 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To me, it would not be a 12th House Mars but that is one man's opinion.
Do you relate to Mars in the 12th.I think there would be a dramatic difference between a Mars conj the ASC and a 12th House Mars.

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posted March 12, 2012 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I somewhat relate to the 12th house Mars, yes, but it certainly not as hidden and inaccessible as a "true" 12th house Mars would be. a True 12th house Mars would be one, which has no conjunction to ASC AND which is in a different sign than the ASC. (of course only my opinion)

But as I said, maybe it is not the Mars in 12th-phenomenon I relate to, but Mars conjunct Neptune.

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posted March 12, 2012 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes as the hallmark of a true 12th House Mars would be passive expression of drives vs active. Any drives are very hard for them such as anger for example.

Mars conj Neptune may be more of a dreamy way one goes about one's drive. One may be slow about it or hard to get moving, kind of lost in fantasy not reality.

What do you think Ceri?

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posted March 12, 2012 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 12, 2012 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
forget it.

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posted March 12, 2012 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My impression of you, Ceri is that you cab express anger directly. You can stand up for yourself very directly. That is not what *I* think of a Mars in the 12th House.

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