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Aquacheeka
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posted April 23, 2012 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
LOL aren't those all cappy moons or moon in tenth house ppl including lonake?


Oh. Well, that might explain it

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Aquacheeka
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posted April 23, 2012 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 23, 2012 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^See,that's some solid grounds for defensiveness.
Yes,yes,it is

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Ami Anne
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posted April 23, 2012 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if I am following your banter with Lonake correctly. I want to say that Lonake is one of the best Astrologers on here. We are VERY fortunate to have her. I value her input like gold as few of us are at her level imho. I hope your bantering was friendly. It was hard for me to tell so I worded my post, accordingly.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 23, 2012 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since this thread is in my honour, I shall now speak up.

Unless you consider that defensiveness as well?

Anyway, I'm less interested in what anyone thinks of me than how annoyed I am with astrological stereotypes.

I'm annoyed with the Gemini bashing. My dear friend has a Venus in Gemini. I'm tired of hearing people banter about her supposed cheating prowress and the masses chiming in like in a frenzy of mob activity.

I'm tired of nonsense about Suns in the 12th House. I consider that one of the most promising aspects (and I don't have that). Some of the highest achieving and most famous people in history have their Suns in the 12th House.

I'm tired of Saturn being associated with repression and frustration. Well, I suppose I'm the the 1% that actually thrives on Saturn given my Sun sign.

Coming back to the original point, my so-regarded defensiveness is instinctive. I snap back when someone steps on my tail, even if it is not explicitly directed at me. Saying that the aspects that I have causes one to be a philandering fool is a huge slap right in my face. No, its more akin to a swift kick in my testicles. I love my wife to death. The thought nauseates me. Makes me want to gag and throw up.

I recognize whoever has whatever astrological expertise. Notwithstanding that, I'm not here in LL to be in some sort of popularity contest and I honestly could give two cents worth if anyone likes me or not. I have two things that nobody can take away from me: my character and my honour.

Am I being overly sensitive? Perhaps. I would even admit that, but that runs contrary to the stereotype of the aloof de-sensitized earth sign, doesn't it?

How would you like if I were to speak solely from my subjective experience? I dated four women with XYZ aspect. Therefore, XYZ aspect makes a woman a B_tch. Why are you mad? It doesn't apply to you, so don't get defensive. Anyway? Why are you defensive? You must be a B_tch then? So, how big a B_tch are you? I can take this to any dimension I want, thanks to me subjective experience in my own little life. Meanwhile, I'm missing out on the reality that the world is not like that and people are better than how I think they are.

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posted April 23, 2012 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Since this thread is in my honour, I shall now speak up.

Unless you consider that defensiveness as well?

Anyway, I'm less interested in what anyone thinks of me than how annoyed I am with astrological stereotypes.

I'm annoyed with the Gemini bashing. My dear friend has a Venus in Gemini. I'm tired of hearing people banter about her supposed cheating prowress and the masses chiming in like in a frenzy of mob activity.

I'm tired of nonsense about Suns in the 12th House. I consider that one of the most promising aspects (and I don't have that). Some of the highest achieving and most famous people in history have their Suns in the 12th House.

I'm tired of Saturn being associated with repression and frustration. Well, I suppose I'm the the 1% that actually thrives on Saturn given my Sun sign.

Coming back to the original point, my so-regarded defensiveness is instinctive. I snap back when someone steps on my tail, even if it is not explicitly directed at me. Saying that the aspects that I have causes one to be a philandering fool is a huge slap right in my face. No, its more akin to a swift kick in my testicles. I love my wife to death. The thought nauseates me. Makes me want to gag and throw up.

I recognize whoever has whatever astrological expertise. Notwithstanding that, I'm not here in LL to be in some sort of popularity contest and I honestly could give two cents worth if anyone likes me or not. I have two things that nobody can take away from me: my character and my honour.

Am I being overly sensitive? Perhaps. I would even admit that, but that runs contrary to the stereotype of the aloof de-sensitized earth sign, doesn't it?

How would you like if I were to speak solely from my subjective experience? I dated four women with XYZ aspect. Therefore, XYZ aspect makes a woman a B_tch. Why are you mad? It doesn't apply to you, so don't get defensive. Anyway? Why are you defensive? You must be a B_tch then? So, how big a B_tch are you? I can take this to any dimension I want, thanks to me subjective experience in my own little life. Meanwhile, I'm missing out on the reality that the world is not like that and people are better than how I think they are.


WHO are you talking to, Ian?

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posted April 23, 2012 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ian, before I even know whom you are addressing, let me say that Astrology cannot TELL someone's character. You have that all wrong, if you think that. The best saint could have the worst chart. This happens many times that the highest level person will have had to overcome the hardest of charts.

We MUST talk in black and white terms for learning purposes, though. So, please try to realize that Darling!

PS I hope you weren't dissing me

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posted April 23, 2012 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YoursTrulyAlways, I get where you're coming from. But for me personally, I don't have a problem with someone speaking from their negative experiences/observations with a sign. I think all of us here are probably guilty of that at some point (well, considering how adamantly you're against that, maybe not you). Well, I know I am guilty of having done this! The only thing I would ask is that people preface their comment by saying that, you know? Like, "In my experience, I've seen a lot of people with XYZ placement exhibiting this behaviour." If you just state it as a matter-of-fact then that is when it tends to offend people, especially if you're someone who is considered as having authority here or astrological expertise. I know that for me that is what bothered me, I felt like it was blatant misinformation.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 23, 2012 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I wasn't directing anything towards anyone, especially you Ami.

However, this entire thread was created to address me, and so I have responded.

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posted April 23, 2012 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
No, I wasn't directing anything towards anyone, especially you Ami.

However, this entire thread was created to address me, and so I have responded.



Good--Phew
Ian, if someone is insulting you directly, you should report it so it does not get out of hand. People covertly pick at people. Report it when it gets overt and Randall will give the person a warning and then they will be kicked off.

If someone insults a sign, we can't help that as certain placements are associated with certain behaviors. It does not MEAN the person is a skank if a person has Venus in Gemini. I do

These are just energies, Ian. You have to take Astrology like that or you will go nuts. You are taking it too literally. However, people can say things as an astrological comment and it is really meant to be a dig.If it is obvious enough, tell me and I will address the person.

You don't need to be insulted and you don't have to take it but wait for a valid insult that you can prove was directed at you.Placements are not in this category

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posted April 23, 2012 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody insulted me, Ami. I'm not going to make references and do all that. Its not necessary. Let's just move on. Having said that, I remain maximally annoyed.

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posted April 23, 2012 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ian, the thread probably wasn't intended for you. Lonake and Aquacheeka were arguing (with much interference from outside parties IMO) when she put this thread up. Before that, I had an issue with her and so did Moonfish.

So this popular idea that Lonake never insults anyone is just make-believe.

I like Lonake, but I also like courtesy. Are we going to be anti-courtesy to be pro-Lonake? Apparently that's how far some people will carry it.

All I keep saying is, it's not HARD to be nice. SO why not just do it.

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posted April 23, 2012 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Nobody insulted me, Ami. I'm not going to make references and do all that. Its not necessary. Let's just move on. Having said that, I remain maximally annoyed.


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posted April 23, 2012 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Ian, the thread probably wasn't intended for you. Lonake and Aquacheeka were arguing (with much interference from outside parties IMO) when she put this thread up. Before that, I had an issue with her and so did Moonfish.

So this popular idea that Lonake never insults anyone is just make-believe.

I like Lonake, but I also like courtesy. Are we going to be anti-courtesy to be pro-Lonake? Apparently that's how far some people will carry it.

All I keep saying is, it's not HARD to be nice. SO why not just do it.


Please, drop it Faith. Lets not get into another problem like we had with Saggi. You know how bad it was for you to be on the receiving end of that

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posted April 23, 2012 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Placements are not in this category.


All Geminis say assinine cr*p like that!

Now Ami...how did that feel to you? I was just talking about a placement, after all. The placement of your sun in Gemini.

Still, how could you not be insulted? A statement like that would be intended to insult you, yet it's "just" about a placement.

And I didn't mean it, of course...just trying to prove a point...see how you like it?


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posted April 23, 2012 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, note the reference to the book about House rulerships. You yourself commented on the cheating/placement thread on the second page. That thread formed the conclusion that Venus and Saturn in H12 are aspects prone to cheating. I was told to harden up and not take offense since it doesn't apply to me. Then, we have this thread with House rulerships. Honestly, I don't give a damn what some book says, regardless of who writes it. Just don't take a dump on my doorstep. I speak softly but wield a big stick. I don't like using it, but sometimes it has to be deployed. Bottom line is: don't cr4p on me.

Honestly. how would you like it if I were to make an outrageous statement like... all women are XYZ .... Oh, it doesn't apply to you anyway, so don't be so overly sensitive.

And no, I'm not going to stand down. I will speak up and respond in a way I deem fit at the time I deem fit. I'm excellent at creating ruckuses.

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posted April 23, 2012 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lets do this.If someone insults you by talking about your Sign, ignore. If someone insults you personally, write to me.

When you study astrology, people are gonna insult your placements. You are NOT your placements. You have to ignore insults to your placements.

Aquacheeka and Faith seemed to have ganged up on Lonake. That won't be allowed, so please stop it. I am watching if you keep riding Lonake and I will report it to Randall, if I see it. It is not allowed to ride and dog someone!

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posted April 23, 2012 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ian, Sweetie
You are gonna have to ignore references to placements. I am a Gemini Venus and that is called a skank. I don't care. I am not a skank. Why should I let it bother me?

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posted April 23, 2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lets do this.If someone insults you by talking about your Sign, ignore. If someone insults you personally, write to me.

When you study astrology, people are gonna insult your placements. You are NOT your placements. You have to ignore insults to your placements.

Aquacheeka and Faith seemed to have ganged up on Lonake. That won't be allowed, so please stop it. I am watching if you keep riding Lonake and I will report it to Randall, if I see it. It is not allowed to ride and dog someone!



Now you're just being plain silly. Please indicate to me in this post where I have "ganged up on" Lonake. Betty Boop (incorrectly) stated that only the two of us have ever had an issue with the way she phrases things, and I posted a link indicating that that's simply not the case. I haven't even insulted her once in this thread. Yes, we all know how protective you are of Lonake but you can't keep insisting that everyone has the right to state their opinion... unless it could be construed in such a way that could be insulting to Lonake. And your thread about "How to get someone you hate banned," come on, Ami. I know you're more mature than/better than this. Do you think that was fitting of a moderator?

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posted April 23, 2012 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquacheeka
You have ONE legitimate warning from Randall. You had another warning from Juni to stop harrassing Lonake. Don't bother Lonake, any more. If you can't say nice things, ignore her. If you don't you may get the second warning and be gone. Case closed.

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posted April 23, 2012 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
YoursTrulyAlways, I get where you're coming from. But for me personally, I don't have a problem with someone speaking from their negative experiences/observations with a sign. I think all of us here are probably guilty of that at some point (well, considering how adamantly you're against that, maybe not you). Well, I know I am guilty of having done this! The only thing I would ask is that people preface their comment by saying that, you know? Like, "In my experience, I've seen a lot of people with XYZ placement exhibiting this behaviour." If you just state it as a matter-of-fact then that is when it tends to offend people, especially if you're someone who is considered as having authority here or astrological expertise. I know that for me that is what bothered me, I felt like it was blatant misinformation.

This post^^ is just to indicate that yes I understand that we all have our own opinions about certain placements and we should be allowed to state those, but perhaps we could all make an effort to preface our statements by saying that it's our own opinion prior to denigrating a placement. If you want to interpret that as "ganging up on Lonake," then I'm sorry to say but I think you're just not being very fair, objective OR mature.

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posted April 23, 2012 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Aquacheeka and Faith seemed to have ganged up on Lonake. That won't be allowed, so please stop it. I am watching if you keep riding Lonake and I will report it to Randall, if I see it. It is not allowed to ride and dog someone!


I didn't call Randall when you and BB were REALLY beating on Aquacheeka, did I?

Lonake and I are discussing things, and doing it civilly enough that it shouldn't bother you.

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posted April 23, 2012 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've already stated my opinion (again, what you consider to be not allowed), and I won't say anything else in regards to the matter.

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posted April 23, 2012 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I didn't call Randall when you and BB were REALLY beating on Aquacheeka, did I?

Lonake and I are discussing things, and doing it civilly enough that it shouldn't bother you.


Be civil, Faith. You should know what it feels like to have someone dogging you as Saggi did it to you

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posted April 23, 2012 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I've already stated my opinion (again, what you consider to be not allowed), and I won't say anything else in regards to the matter.


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