posted April 23, 2012 07:09 PM            

An important distinction to make.

If you are looking for an apology to soothe your nerves, then you may not get it here as we have fundamental differences in our perception of the matter. I don't go in search of apologies from people who fundamentally see an issue in a different light. I also don't expect apologies from people who may or may not have offended me. Maybe that is an issue, related to your offense in that matter, where we will have to agree to disagree. Not too much to ask. But let's not let that interfere with the larger issue at hand. I also have not seen any responses to the clarifications I've made here. I've seen personal bias in your response to me on this matter regarding a comment I made on an aspect based on my personal experience, and not directed to you, at all. I retain the right to share my experiences honestly.

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
nobody controls my ability to speak and voice my opinion on any subject matter at any time.

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ Yup to that, too.

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posted April 23, 2012 07:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
No one is perfect Faith. Lonake comes here every day to teach YOU Astrology. Be grateful for that. I do, too, out of love for LL and Astrology. Be grateful, Faith, for what people GIVE you, FREE of charge and out of their hearts!

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Can you handle your gratitude in silence and let Faith and Lonake address the issue?

posted April 23, 2012 07:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thank you for not shutting down the thread Lonake.

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posted April 23, 2012 07:15 PM            

The moon is in detriment in Capricorn; emotional sensitivity is always going to be a problem.

posted April 23, 2012 10:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Don't compare this to Saggi, as you did earlier on the thread. She was kicked out because Randall decided it was time for her to go. If you don't like it, you can take that up with him.

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Hi everyone, don't mean to derail this thread in any way, but I just saw this and wanted to make a correction (forgive my picky 5H in Virgo)

As I was intimately involved in trying to bring peace to that other dispute, I know firsthand that Saggi wasn't "kicked out" by Randall or anyone else. She felt "ganged up" on and herself decided to leave saying she was tired of the "bit*hing" that was going on. She then began to delete her almost 3000 posts (in 3 months of being a member), understandably taking with her the incredible amount of information she had generously shared with LL. When Randall saw her withdrawal, he closed my thread and subsequently banned her. This was the sequence of events as they happened. I think it's important to put out facts (which can be verified by Randall), especially when the person concerned is not here to make the correction herself.

And since I AM posting I may as well just say one more thing in general. I think it would be a good idea if we all try and take the high road-there's much less traffic up there, the air is fresher, visibility is greater.

Hmmm ... k this was not well thought out on my part 'cause if all 70,000 or so LL members took the high road, it would get too crowded up there too, thus defeating the purpose.

So ... nvm. Just carry on with the convo

This is **me slinking out of here**

posted April 24, 2012 12:49 AM            

This is a question directed at everyone here..

What are your thoughts regarding people who play the 'jerk' for entertainment purposes... such as comedians who make somewhat cutting jokes... or the judges on shows like American Idol.. (*ahem* Simon Cowell *ahem*).. or other forms of art and self-expression like music.. (some rap songs can involve crude language)..?
What about famous people who are simply known for being straight-shooters and telling it like it is (even when they get sued for it), e.g... Sasha Baron Cohen..?

posted April 24, 2012 12:55 AM            

Aquacheeka mentioned a couple of times above that 'some' people simply cannot learn to be more tactful.
This implies that it is a negative thing not to be tactful.

posted April 24, 2012 08:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I have a somewhat unrelated question - out of pure curiosity..

This is a question directed at everyone here..

What are your thoughts regarding people who play the 'jerk' for entertainment purposes... such as comedians who make somewhat cutting jokes... or the judges on shows like American Idol.. (*ahem* Simon Cowell *ahem*).. or other forms of art and self-expression like music.. (some rap songs can involve crude language)..?
What about famous people who are simply known for being straight-shooters and telling it like it is (even when they get sued for it), e.g... Sasha Baron Cohen..?

If you were in charge of the world for some time - would you choose to ban these things? Why - or Why not?

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I wouldn't get rid of those things, because I actually like blunt honesty and consider conflict/arguments are an efficient way to learn (about yourself, a topic, and/or other people's views).

If Astrology has taught me anything, it's that everyone is different and you will not get along with everyone. Conflict can be ascribed to negative synastry or bad transits. If you feel conflict or an upset caused by another person, that conflict is solely your view point (other people may also feel conflict or an upset caused by the same thing, but it is still solely the individuals view). It is up to the individual to determine how they react to that feeling, within themselves as well as outwardly.

My friends have a wonderful saying that I think applies here: "Stop saying you're offended by things. Saying your offended implies that you have no control over your emotions and would like for someone else to do it for you."

Personally, I found this entire topic LOL worthy. I love conflict and seeing how it plays out, it has been incredibly entertaining to laugh at the way people react to one another. Are you offended by that? The better question is, did this topic teach you anything from the opposing point of view, about yourself, or the topic? If it didn't, then you have missed the point of conflict entirely.

(btw Betty, this post isn't directed at you or anyone specific even though I quoted you, it's directed at everyone)

posted April 24, 2012 08:51 AM            

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I wouldn't get rid of those things, because I actually like blunt honesty and consider conflict/arguments are an efficient way to learn (about yourself, a topic, and/or other people's views).

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posted April 24, 2012 09:35 AM            

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It was an error on my part for not banning Saggi earlier on; sometimes when you give people chances, they are just unnapreciative, and you get burned. I won't be as lax in the future. Lesson learned.

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I believe in the Bible, as you know. The Bible talks about leadership in any community, no matter how small or big. No community will survive without it. No one will be safe without a strong leader. If a person CHOOSES to be a jerk, they don't deserve to be in such a great place as LL imho

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posted April 24, 2012 09:51 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
We were just about to end on a positive note too. Welp, can't win them all - I'm outtie!

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LOL I keep watching this gif because her hair is so pretty. I want that hair! Minus the pink part.

posted April 24, 2012 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
LOL I keep watching this gif because her hair is so pretty. I want that hair! Minus the pink part.

And hey it might be ending on a positive note after all.

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posted April 24, 2012 10:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
LOL I keep watching this gif because her hair is so pretty. I want that hair! Minus the pink part.

And hey it might be ending on a positive note after all.

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posted April 24, 2012 10:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Nah, there's a place for all of the things you mentioned (and I love Simon), but Lindaland isn't the place. I wouldn't get rid of any of it.

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posted April 24, 2012 01:36 PM            

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And hey it might be ending on a positive note after all.

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posted April 24, 2012 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I fail to see the point for any conflict here. It reminds me of the tribes who catch spider monkeys (to keep them from causing harm to the villages). They put treats in boxes with holes that are small enough for the monkeys' hands to reach inside, but not large enough for their fists to pull out. Monkeys refuse to let go of the treats and subsequently get captured. Sometimes you just have to give up trying to convince someone you are right and they are wrong and simply learn to le
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Great story Randall and RS that last gif is hilarious and I'm Flavor flav lmao

posted April 24, 2012 06:18 PM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Faith:
[b]And hey it might be ending on a positive note after all.

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TOTALLY

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posted April 24, 2012 07:49 PM            

If that's what it takes, then Randall has the additional responsibility of story telling every time there's a fire on LL.