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Topic: Are you wary of a particular zodiac sign or natal aspect?
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Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 01, 2012 07:51 AM
aquaguy - Your Venus Mars square is out of sign. Both Venus and Mars are in air - so they are trined by sign. I think that would be different anyway. IP: Logged |
neptunicity Knowflake Posts: 1275 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted May 01, 2012 08:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by Desiring Shadows: Sweet-Scorpion: Saw your post! Glad you agree.------ I also disfavor synastry or composite aspects with bad pluto squares. There are just arguements and endless suffering. Power struggles, ego conflicts. Violence, disagreement. It becomes so destructive for the soul.
You specifically singled out the square aspects, so i'm assuming that the opposition aspects to pluto would be better or manageable than the square.. IP: Logged |
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posted May 01, 2012 09:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by the89freespirit: Ahhh, okay. I'm SOOOO tired of Scorpio Moon having such a terrible reputation. It's such a widespread opinion that WE even believe we're evil and twisted.
I don't believe that, I basically have a Scorpio moon myself since my moon is in the 8th house trine Pluto. Heck, it might even be more of a Scorpio moon than a Pisces moon and I've always been overly nice to people to the point where they take advantage of me. Just like Linda Goodman said about Aquas, the people who were looked down on or who were treated as though they were freaks and geeks by the majority always flocked to me even in high school and felt comfortable around me because they knew I would never judge them. So I don't think that (about Scorpio moons) at all. To be quite honest, I would rather have a Scorp moon than a Pisces moon and I'm always quick to amend comments about my Pisces moon by pointing out that it's really more of a Scorpio moon. I admire the intensity and inner strength of this moon placement.
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hannaramaa unregistered
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posted May 01, 2012 11:35 AM
Yeah I never understood the astrology books giving Scorpio a bad reputation either. I wonder if Scorpio placements in particular are more easily affected by their rising or moon sign, than other ones in the zodiac. Anyway, the Scorpios I've met have never been vindictive, ever. I think Sagittarius actually caught that one. They are blunt without a filter but when it comes to speaking their mind or being upset with someone I've never met one who confronts directly. Scorpios are sweet if you're an honest and good person, but if they sense you're fake or manipulative you're as good as dead to them.IP: Logged |
Thefish Knowflake Posts: 220 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 01, 2012 03:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: LOL @ bat sh$t crazy - I'd agree that that person wouldn't be for everyone (!)
She was BPD/HPD woman gorgeous but an absolute disaster. You wouldn't know unless you have an intimate relationship with her.
I don't know her birth time but I was trying to figure out what houses would be involved in BPD/HPD (personality disorders) so I could guesstimate her rising sign. She did end up getting married a little while ago but she married the guy in less than a year after meeting him not to mention while being pregnant. My good fortune his grenade to handle now.
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intriguingineveryway Knowflake Posts: 80 From: USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 01, 2012 04:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: Pluto is stronger than the sign Scorpio, so one could argue that Scorpio Venuses are honorary Venusian/Plutonians.
I read this before from some astrologers that Pluto is stronger so therefore more Plutonian than the sign itself in Scorpio. But does this apply in minor aspects like trine? Who would be stronger Sun in Scorpio or Sun trine Scorpio? IP: Logged |
intriguingineveryway Knowflake Posts: 80 From: USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 01, 2012 04:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by neptunicity:
Zodiac sign wise, i'm a bit wary of cancer. They are super sensitive and tend to hold grudges way to long. They have that crab mentality too. Next would be scorpio, because i had a scorpio mom, and she was controlling, violent, and always exploded like a bomb over the silliest things. She throws whatever she can get her hands on during an argument. I remember when i was 13, my room looked liked as if a hurricane passed through it, coz all my stuff that was exposed was thrown at me or at the wall. I know all zodiac signs have negative traits, but those are the 2 zodiac signs that i tend to be "cautious" in dealing with. And of course, i'm not saying all cancers and scorpios are like that, but the ones that i met are.So how about you? What zodiac signs and aspects are you wary of?
i read a lot of negative said about scorpios, but the ones i met are just too nice. they are quiet, but so am i so we get along and it's not uncomfortable. i've dated scorpios too and they sting when they are hurt, but i pretty much can handle it. i also believe that the moon carries more weight than the sun sign like the cancer sun/taurus moon i know and the gemini sun/cancer moon. the cancer moon shows more cancer traits than the cancer sun does. the cancer sun shows their taurus moon traits more.
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luisbunuel unregistered
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posted May 03, 2012 12:53 PM
Such an interesting topic...bump!IP: Logged |
ProudestLeo Knowflake Posts: 91 From: Puerto Rico Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 03, 2012 01:27 PM
To be honest (and fair) there is something im wary (or dislike) about every sign of the zodiac:-Aries: How they never admit they are wrong or losing. -Taurus: How they are sometimes so fixed they dont even try to understand other's point of view. -Gemini: How they annoyingly always claim they are doing something from start to finish and they always end up changing their minds. -Cancer: How you can never rationalize with them because they are so overly emotional they always react with their irrational feelings... -Leo: How we do everything in our arsenal to bring down whomever has done damage to us -Virgo: How they are always critizising -Libra: How they sometimes like to hurt you(or stir up trouble)with you and then when you confront them upfront they act like nervous innocents did nothing and want you to forget about everything because they are so scared of you. Scorpio: How they love to make strategies "under the table" always thinking they have the upper hand and how they never trust anybody but themselves. Saggitarious: (Similar to libra) How they sometimes like to stir up trouble and conflicts only to run away as far as possible when they are confronted like they had nothing to do with it. Its a cowardly act IMO. Capricorn: How they are almost always nothing but work. Aquarious: How proud they are to be so detached to everything, it comes to the point where I sometimes ask myself "do they have a little atachment for anything atleast?". Pisces: (Similar to Saggy and Libra) how they sometimes hurt you or stirr up trouble and when you confront them they either run away or act like nervous inoccents who just want you to to forget everything. IP: Logged |
neptunicity Knowflake Posts: 1275 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted May 03, 2012 11:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by intriguingineveryway: i read a lot of negative said about scorpios, but the ones i met are just too nice. they are quiet, but so am i so we get along and it's not uncomfortable. i've dated scorpios too and they sting when they are hurt, but i pretty much can handle it. i also believe that the moon carries more weight than the sun sign like the cancer sun/taurus moon i know and the gemini sun/cancer moon. the cancer moon shows more cancer traits than the cancer sun does. the cancer sun shows their taurus moon traits more.
In my experience, even as kids or teens, these young scorpios (whether sun or moon) can be pretty violent, they are inclined to throw things at you when mad. When i was 13, a friend of mine told me that when she gets mad, she also throws things too! Kinda dangerous to live in a house with a scorpio sun or moon in my opinion, lol. quote: Originally posted by ProudestLeo: To be honest (and fair) there is something im wary (or dislike) about every sign of the zodiac:-Aries: How they never admit they are wrong or losing. -Taurus: How they are sometimes so fixed they dont even try to understand other's point of view. -Gemini: How they annoyingly always claim they are doing something from start to finish and they always end up changing their minds. -Cancer: How you can never rationalize with them because they are so overly emotional they always react with their irrational feelings... -Leo: How we do everything in our arsenal to bring down whomever has done damage to us -Virgo: How they are always critizising -Libra: How they sometimes like to hurt you(or stir up trouble)with you and then when you confront them upfront they act like nervous innocents did nothing and want you to forget about everything because they are so scared of you. Scorpio: How they love to make strategies "under the table" always thinking they have the upper hand and how they never trust anybody but themselves. Saggitarious: (Similar to libra) How they sometimes like to stir up trouble and conflicts only to run away as far as possible when they are confronted like they had nothing to do with it. Its a cowardly act IMO. Capricorn: How they are almost always nothing but work. Aquarious: How proud they are to be so detached to everything, it comes to the point where I sometimes ask myself "do they have a little atachment for anything atleast?". Pisces: (Similar to Saggy and Libra) how they sometimes hurt you or stirr up trouble and when you confront them they either run away or act like nervous inoccents who just want you to to forget everything.
Nice observation you have there! I do agree in general. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 04, 2012 12:04 AM
What I dislike is...aries - thinking every person is exactly the way they are taurus - it's their way, or the highway gemini - critical with no good reason cancer - 'cry me a river' leo - too controlling towards the people they love virgo - skeptical of everything, at all times libra - jealous due to personal insecurity scorpio - does not believe in fairness.. works on their own rules sagittarius - paranoid that others are trying to own them capricorn - inability to forgive/forget or give 2nd chances aquarius - unreliable pisces - hypocritical IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 04, 2012 01:02 AM
Hi intriguingineveryway, The difference is that the outer planets bring sweeping changes into the life. They're forces unto themselves unless they're personalized in the chart. When they're personalized that energy is brought down to earth but it creates waves. The person has a lot of energy to deal with and it can be overwhelming/difficult to control. A Sun trine Pluto person would innately wield this power with more ease than a Scorpio Sun. The trine lets the energy move forward unimpeded. But the trine is not a strong aspect (conj sq opp) when we're talking about conferring energy, the biggest impact. The strongest aspect is a conjunct. Pluto trine Sun still confers strength, don't get me wrong, it's just not as closely aligned to Pluto as when the Sun is conjunct. The planetary energy is the source, in this case Pluto. Scorpio is just an animal manifestation of that. All the signs are just translating the planetary energy in a way that makes sense to us. So if it's a Scorpio Sun, removed from Pluto, it is Scorpio but with all of the human foibles that we grapple with. Scorpios cannot reach Plutonian heights or depths unless Pluto is personalized or they undergo a significant Pluto transit/progression. Hope that makes sense. But I realize I didn't answer your question concretely. I don't believe that there is a concrete answer to that due to the nature of the trine. If you would have said conjunct, then my answer a definite yes.IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted May 04, 2012 01:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by ProudestLeo: -Taurus: How they are sometimes so fixed they dont even try to understand other's point of view.
Yep I just understand that it is contrary to my own. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12344 From: Rent Free in Grahma male's head Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 04, 2012 01:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: What I dislike is...aries - thinking every person is exactly the way they are taurus - it's their way, or the highway gemini - critical with no good reason cancer - 'cry me a river' leo - too controlling towards the people they love virgo - skeptical of everything, at all times libra - jealous due to personal insecurity scorpio - does not believe in fairness.. works on their o pisces - hypocritical
Aquarians aren't unreliable, we just don't like to be depended on.IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 3377 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 04, 2012 02:02 AM
Well my dad was unreliable while I was growing up.. and he has all his personal planets in Aquarius, other than Mercury. I do think it's one of the Aquarius possible negative traits.And kids are meant to be able to depend on you. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12344 From: Rent Free in Grahma male's head Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 04, 2012 02:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: Well my dad was unreliable while I was growing up.. and he has all his personal planets in Aquarius, other than Mercury. I do think it's one of the Aquarius possible negative traits.And kids are meant to be able to depend on you.
I was jk , I can be unreliable lolIP: Logged |
ProudestLeo Knowflake Posts: 91 From: Puerto Rico Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 04, 2012 06:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: Yep I just understand that it is contrary to my own.
And for the most part I like Sun Taurus people (or with other planets in Taurus), because despite that, they are never contradictory nor hypocrites, they always do what they say and follow their code no matter what, I admire that. IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 2166 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted January 15, 2022 12:02 PM
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Stawr Moderator Posts: 6295 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 15, 2022 12:24 PM
It's fun to talk smack. I love reading these. Where can I find a Neptune oppose Mars person you despise so much neptunicity? I love that username BTW. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 4848 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 15, 2022 01:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: It's fun to talk smack. I love reading these. Where can I find a Neptune oppose Mars person you despise so much neptunicity?
Here. The qualifying, all important term was "the ones I have met." quote: ... the ones with negative mars-neptune aspects. The ones that i met have mars opposition neptune, and they seem to be obsessed with sex ...
So I'll be the exception to this, thank you. Personally, I don't think I can say I'm wary of any astrological type or astrological factor. I've seen them all and as an astrologer I can't afford to have pronounced biases. Nor am I working from a small sample of just people I know personally. In the past it probably would have been fire type men because their egos seem to make them too **** sure, arrogant, as if ultimately the rules don't really apply to them even if they've enforced them with others or preached them from the pulpit. Trust me, I've got numerous examples from my own family/personal circle to back this. But ultimately, as a practicing astrologer that misgiving melted away because it was based on a limited sample of people and my own state of distrust of men. I've overcome a lot of that, enough that it doesn't seem worth it to uphold presumptive wariness anymore.
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Nadja Knowflake Posts: 605 From: Finland Registered: Nov 2018
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posted January 15, 2022 01:38 PM
Lol, I just read the OP about Mars-Neptune hard aspects and sex obsession... I have a close orb Mars-Neptune opposition but I'm asexual and sex-indifferent. Never had sex and probably never will. I'd guess it can go both ways. can be either sex addiction or a self-destructve sexual escapism... or it could be a dissolving/clouding of the sexual desire.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 21154 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 15, 2022 02:31 PM
I am wary of the retrogrades of Venus and Mars. Something always seems to happen during that time. There are certain chart similarities between people that I've had specific challenges with. I have to go, so I'm not going to get into it more. IP: Logged |
Sauerkraut Knowflake Posts: 172 From: Registered: Sep 2020
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posted January 15, 2022 09:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: ..based on a limited sample of people..
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: It's fun to talk smack.
lol when upset, the aries in me NEEDS to vent (mostly in sweeping generalizations) and tends to find it funny when others are "popping off" in a similar way - a given that it is healthy to an extent, unless personally directed imo.. however have come to terms with how confusing it can be to others, especially to those who are more pragmatic in expression. i used to get annoyed when people would offer advice or correct me when i was "just venting", but now see why clearly. interactions with a good friend who has a cap moon has helped me become acutely aware of this dynamic. am learning to express frustration in a more balanced and effective way. results have been good. i agree with Kannon. can totally understand how being impartial would be more beneficial as a professional astrologer. being too biased can be limiting (to others and self), especially if the focus is on spiritual evolution. i like to believe freewill allows a certain transcendence of the natal chart. IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted January 18, 2022 12:23 PM
Ahh that's a fun thread!I will list some annoying things I noticed with the signs. To balance it out, I'm going to post the positives as well: 1. Aries (especially the men): incredibly easily inflammable and emotionally immature. Throws tantrums and then blames others for "making them" act that way. Positive: Go getters. They have a child like innocence that can be cute. 2. Taurus: No sense of urgency which can be infuriating. Unless it suits them, then everyone is expected to rush. So effing immovable and stubborn and rigid. Positive: I LOVE their stability and their solidness. They are soothing and cuddly. 3. Gemini: I never know if I can fully trust what they say. It's like they like holding the strings and other people are their puppets. Positive: Most of my friends are Geminis and I love their thirst for knowledge. 4. Cancer (especially the men). Easily offended. Prone to outbursts. Love to cause drama. Positive: very emotionally strong people actually. I love their caring nature. 5. Leo: So attention hungry. It always has to be about them. Positive: Leo has a heart of gold. They can be incredibly warm hearted and helpful. 6. Virgo: just really cannot hold back their criticism. Positive: incredible sense of humour. Very realistic and down to Earth. 7. Libra: There is an insincerity about them when they interact with people. It's like they overdo it in the friendliness/politness department, which makes them seem fake. Positive: Great conversationalists and social butterflies. 8. Scorpio: Exhausting because they always feel they need to get back at everyone who even slightly offended them. too intense. Positive: Very anyalytical and insightful minds. Very loyal friends. 9. Sagittarius: Too blunt, no tact. Hypocritical. Positive: Very funny and light hearted people , which I love. Some of my favourite people were/are Sags. 10. Capricorn: unscrupulous and selfish. Positive: Caring and dependable. You can be sure they keep their word. 11. Aquarius: Can be very tactless and blunt and then act surprised when people feel insulted but you can't anything back to them. A classic case of can dish it out but can't take it. Positive: They really do like to help others. Maybe not so much by listening to problems but by action. Those I know really have strong humanitarian traits. 12. Pisces: sneaky and scheming. Can be incredibly cold hearted which does not fit the stereotype. And I know several who are. Positive: very very imaginative and funny. Also, smooth. My favourite aspect in people: Mercury square Uranus: A wicked sense of humour. 3 of us in my family have it and we really are quite funny IP: Logged |