posted April 29, 2012 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Mars hard aspect to Pluto, extremely volatile personalities in my experience.

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posted April 29, 2012 12:11 PM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Ahhh, okay. I'm SOOOO tired of Scorpio Moon having such a terrible reputation. It's such a widespread opinion that WE even believe we're evil and twisted.

Yeah, I used to be really angry, mean, hostile and defensive but I've done a lot of self-work and I'm not in that place anymore. I had to heal a lot of hurt to get out of that frame of mind. I still have my dark side and I'm still really hot-tempered but I'm a good person. I don't care about revenge anymore and I'm not nearly as resentful. I've just been learning how to let go.

But I've always been a good person at heart, even back when I was really difficult to deal with. Lunar Scorpios are just so pathologized from an early age. Because we're such intense personalities and react in such extreme ways, we're called 'psycho' and told we need to calm down and be rational. So, I feel like, even when we're just trying to do good, we're still going to be called 'evil' and 'dangerous' because our very nature is so strong that it's threatening to most people. And that may not be fair but I guess that's the way many people are. But, to get that response constantly from society can plant a seed in someone's head and make them believe they're as bad as people say they are.

That being said, I don't think it's cool to judge ANYONE before getting to know them, in any sort of way. I think it's just as bad to write someone off because they have a particular Moon placement as putting someone in a box because of their skin color or sexual orientation. It's just as prejudiced as that. Because not everyone in a certain group is going to be the same.

There are certain placements I haven't meshed well with in the past but I try to give everyone a chance. There are also certain placements I've gotten along with swimmingly before and I met someone with the same placement and I couldn't stand them. It all depends on the person and their maturity level and how they handle their chart.

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Agree witcha'

Met so many wonderful scorpio moon people who are total sweethearts. Ariesdragon on this forum being one of them. I've always made friends with scorpio moon ppl since I can remember (a best friend since elementary was one, and my other best friend from middle school is also one). And I have leo moon, which squares it! Yet, I like them a lot.

posted April 29, 2012 12:28 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Lawl. I have that. I'm not volatile at all :/

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posted April 29, 2012 01:19 PM            

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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lonake:
[b]Hmm I know a Mars Neptune sq and he is a complete wh0re.
And yea, he's up to high heaven with his sexual fantasies as well.
He has Scorp rising too.

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I noticed indeed that some scorpio suns can be prudes, but they mostly don't sleep around, compared to the more flirtatious signs. Also, i noticed that with scorpio suns and moons, they're very loyal when in love, and when they do enter a relationship, it usually lasts for years, even leading to marriage. My mom (scorpio sun) and cousin (scorpio moon) got married to their 1st bf/gf after several years of being together. I also get along with scorpio suns and moons in general, since it's a fellow water sign. But if the scorpio sun and moon happens to be your parents, then watch out! They can be pretty violent. My dad is violent too, he has a gemini sun but with a scorpio moon. He loves to throw things too when he's angry. By the way, even if you have the mars square neptune aspect, if the orb is a bit wide, like above 4 in your natal chart, then it's effects aren't felt that much. An aspect orb that's up to 3 would be felt moderately. Got that info from the software "world of wisdom horoscope interpreter".

Now regarding scorpio moons, i read that it is the most difficult placement for the moon, since they feel things more intensely than others and have to contend with different intense emotions inside of them most of the time. Maybe that's why they're so sensitive.

Also, regarding the sun sign being the most important, in my opinion it makes up around 60% to 70% of who we are, the moon, venus, mercury, etc. just plays a supporting, complementing or even opposing role. I have venus in aries and mars in taurus, but my approach towards love and my work ethics are so piscean.

posted April 29, 2012 01:32 PM              

I am also wary of water signs in general because I've had bad experiences with Scorpios and Pisces (I seem to have trouble with the Pisces placement direct as opposed to Neptune people), and I always shied away from Cancer men's affections, I think on some level I sensed that they wanted so much more than I could have given them.

posted April 29, 2012 04:09 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
She has mars Square Neptune.

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posted April 29, 2012 04:16 PM            

Its a very intense position that has the potential of turning volatile without adequate control. This aspect practically makes anyone who has it an honorary Scorpio Lol!

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You're sexually very intense, passionate and sensual. Your touch alone can be indicative of how you're feeling about yourself, your partner, or a possible intimate. You have the potential for great healing or great destructiveness in relationships.

You may not be particularly sentimental but if you love someone, you love them completely and forever. You live on the emotional extremes. People are either important to you or they don't even exist. Your feelings are deep and volcanic. You love power and control which is fine if you have learned to control yourself. You are magnetic and surrounded with an aura of mystery. You deal with groups and group resources. You may have leadership in some creative project or in some financial enterprise. You polarize people: they either love you or hate you but are seldom indifferent to you.

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posted April 29, 2012 04:26 PM              

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Originally posted by Xodian:
[B]Venus conj. Pluto.

Its a very intense position that has the potential of turning volatile without adequate control. This aspect practically makes anyone who has it an honorary Scorpio Lol!

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(((le sigh))) Lindalanders...

posted April 29, 2012 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:

Honorary VENUS in Scorpio. Not a Scorpio. Sun-Pluto conjunction would make someone an "honorary Scorpio."

(((le sigh))) Lindalanders...

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My fault on the matter. Yes yes, it mimics the personality traits of someone with Venus in Scorpio.

posted April 29, 2012 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Oh no haha. That's not what you say in a forum dominated by women. Esp if you're a woman.

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Exactly.

posted April 29, 2012 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Ahhh, okay. I'm SOOOO tired of Scorpio Moon having such a terrible reputation. It's such a widespread opinion that WE even believe we're evil and twisted.

Yeah, I used to be really angry, mean, hostile and defensive but I've done a lot of self-work and I'm not in that place anymore. I had to heal a lot of hurt to get out of that frame of mind. I still have my dark side and I'm still really hot-tempered but I'm a good person. I don't care about revenge anymore and I'm not nearly as resentful. I've just been learning how to let go.

But I've always been a good person at heart, even back when I was really difficult to deal with. Lunar Scorpios are just so pathologized from an early age. Because we're such intense personalities and react in such extreme ways, we're called 'psycho' and told we need to calm down and be rational. So, I feel like, even when we're just trying to do good, we're still going to be called 'evil' and 'dangerous' because our very nature is so strong that it's threatening to most people. And that may not be fair but I guess that's the way many people are. But, to get that response constantly from society can plant a seed in someone's head and make them believe they're as bad as people say they are.

That being said, I don't think it's cool to judge ANYONE before getting to know them, in any sort of way. I think it's just as bad to write someone off because they have a particular Moon placement as putting someone in a box because of their skin color or sexual orientation. It's just as prejudiced as that. Because not everyone in a certain group is going to be the same.

There are certain placements I haven't meshed well with in the past but I try to give everyone a chance. There are also certain placements I've gotten along with swimmingly before and I met someone with the same placement and I couldn't stand them. It all depends on the person and their maturity level and how they handle their chart.

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I wasn't judging them at all. It's a hard placement and hard placements have a tendency to act it out unless they've managed to get a handle on it. The scorp moon I know is the same as you: She says now, "I used to be SUCH a B8tch."

I would never not associate with someone because of something I see in someone's chart.

posted April 29, 2012 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Xodian:
Venus conj. Pluto.

Its a very intense position that has the potential of turning volatile without adequate control. This aspect practically makes anyone who has it an honorary Scorpio Lol!

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You're sexually very intense, passionate and sensual. Your touch alone can be indicative of how you're feeling about yourself, your partner, or a possible intimate. You have the potential for great healing or great destructiveness in relationships.

You may not be particularly sentimental but if you love someone, you love them completely and forever. You live on the emotional extremes. People are either important to you or they don't even exist. Your feelings are deep and volcanic. You love power and control which is fine if you have learned to control yourself. You are magnetic and surrounded with an aura of mystery. You deal with groups and group resources. You may have leadership in some creative project or in some financial enterprise. You polarize people: they either love you or hate you but are seldom indifferent to you.

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I myself have Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, in the 12th, and I agree for the most part.

I disagree about the first paragraph about being sexual and all of that; I don't do relationships at all. I imagine, though, that other Venus-conjunct-Pluto people might be that way. I also disagree about leadership: one of the big frustrations of my life is that I'm nobody and no one thinks that I'm capable of doing anything. I'm content to be nobody in the sense of not being famous or well-known, but I really hate feeling like I don't matter to the people who know me (in a good, healthy, non-creepy/non-inappropriate way) and that those who could give me leadership opportunities obviously don't feel that I'm good enough or that I deserve them; otherwise, they would have given me a chance by now. I feel like that a lot, honestly. I'd also disagree that people aren't indifferent to me: indifference is what I get from most people with whom I'm acquainted. Outside of my immediate family, there really aren't many people who care what happens to me or really love me, save for a few family friends. Most people who know me just don't care, period.

posted April 29, 2012 09:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Honorary VENUS in Scorpio. Not a Scorpio. Sun-Pluto conjunction would make someone an "honorary Scorpio."

(((le sigh))) Lindalanders...

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posted April 29, 2012 10:25 PM              

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Geminis with Pisces mixed in like a moon sign-nasty turn on a dime crazy

Too much Cappy in the chart-cold plain opportunists

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posted April 29, 2012 11:47 PM            

1. Venus in Gemini. I really dislike it especially when dating but even in platonic relationships it can annoy me because I'm a Scorpio Venus, and I really like people who are devoted and not extremely lighthearted with their love nature. I see love as something quite serious and intense and all-consuming and a few Gemini Venus people I know like to playfully flirt with just about anybody, even guys passing by our table in restaurants and man... that just annoys me for some reason.

2. MOON CONJUNCT SATURN. It's a really, really tough one for me, I'm extremely emotional at my core and I cannot handle people who do not show some genuine, deep feelings towards me on an occasional to frequent basis. My mother has this and it is hell dealing with her. It hurts so much to deal with the way she withholds her emotions and just acts like a doofus sometimes, but at the same time, she can be cold and withdrawn in an instant. Very trying. Very hurtful depending on the person with this one.

3. Moon in Leo... I have no idea why I am so scared of this one, well actually - maybe it's because so many semi-abusive females I have known in my life ended up having this one. I do not do well with a Leo Moon, or at least one that makes intense aspects, like Moon conjunct Pluto in the 3rd. Someone close to me has this and it is very difficult for me to deal with their intense rages (also Pluto opposition Mars) and the way they think can be completely unlike mine... to the point where I am uncomfortable with them. But well-aspected, normal Leo Moons are OK I guess. I'm just wary of this Moon sign due to bad experiences but I try to be as open minded as possible. I'm sure so many lovely people out there have Leo Moons which is what makes me depressed. Sometimes I have a difficulty getting along with very 'Fire' people, compared to people who are Air or Water dominant.

posted April 29, 2012 11:57 PM            

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Dont like Geminis flexible and manipulative devil-may-care demeanor.
Loathe the venus square neptune aspect.
2 words; Cruddy aspect. Back to venus squ neptu----
No spouse unless there they possess an illness/affliction. Inactive life style---resorting to day-dreaming about the lovelife/social life. Wanting the guy thats never there. Having high expectations that nobody can live up to. NEEDING to have more confidence in the love life. Me and my shadow syndrome. Needing to be realistic. (Which is why I love the cold saturn venus!)
I've been working on this a lot. I'm trying to idolize LindaLand so I won't idealize any other area of my life, like the people I love. I'm trying to listen to music like Enya and karoke rhythmical part of music so I can use that for my imaginary purposes.

Mars square pluto these people pop. I pity how their anger causes self-destructive tendencies. An explosive tempers. If they are mad, abscond or abide prior to they alleviate. Theyre often fanatical over the transpicuous of things and then they grudge over it. These are the type to strike and not stop, from personal experience.
Dislike people with excessive LEO in their personality. Their vainglorious personalities can easily discount the feelings of others. Theyd continue laughing when someone is seriously becoming upset about an issue which should get them to stop. It's obnoxious and immature and humor should never be at the expense of another person. OR maybe this is my mercury square neptune picking up the conscious and subconscious vibrations.(which I doubt.)
Gah, I'm too Libra. Lol
I can say a bad statement about all of the aspects but those stand out. ALSO, I disagree that Asexuality is a sickness. I'm offended by that statement. Its a cruel way to mark the unique differences that homosapians have. Peircing needles through the skin is not interpreted as a sickness---when humans by nature do not naturally self mutilate even if it is for fashion. So how can someone say that disregarding the natural course of the physical mating ritual is a malady? WE ARE UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS.
I dislike how a cult of personality Scorpio influenced individuals can be the most of outstanding partners/monogamist but irreconcilable.

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I agree... people with negative Mars-Pluto aspects can be so trying to deal with, they can actually scare me very much at times, and I'm Mercury square Mars so man, when we butt heads it can get violent, me and these types of people. 80 I was just saying how I'm close to someone with the opposition and they have a history of just - snapping so suddenly and violently, and they're female but they've beaten a grown man and kicked a man down the stairs before so... yeah.

I also agree with your statement on asexuality. I see that it isn't a sickness either, just something that makes someone unique. Like you said, we can easily say other quirks to the personality are a sickness... some people consider excessive piercing and tattooing a self-harm sickness; as in, they think it's sick for people to keep doing that to themselves. People should try to be accepting of such differences in others, even though it can be hard especially when you just don't 'get' what someone is all about in general.

posted April 30, 2012 05:01 PM            

Tsquare of Venus/mars opp uranus to saturn equals a giant mess.