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aquaguy91
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posted May 08, 2012 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon/pluto and venus /pluto natally, and yes i am very passionate,but i wish i could do away with pluto aspects entirely,especially moon/pluto, i hate how angry and resentful i can be, and i hate how when i am wronged by someone,all the people who have hurt me come to mind and i burn with anger,moon pluto aspects are bad news, i have had it in synastry too,and that has also been bad for me,and mars pluto, we wont even go there lol.

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posted May 08, 2012 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is another guy who does like me back, but we cant go out for various reasons. we have

his Moon in virgo conjunct my moon in leo
DW sun-pluto aspects (trine and square)
DW moon-uranus trines
His sun opposite my mars and venus
His mercury opp my moon
His saturn and uranus opp my mercury
His mercury trine my jupiter
his venus square my jupiter
his saturn trine my moon

and our composite is
venus conjunct jupiter square moon
sun conjunct mercury trine moon
Sun and moon trine uranus and saturn
moon trine neptune


What do you think of DW sun-pluto aspects?

Funny because the aspects dont seem as intense....and they dont feel as intense in reality either, of course....but this one does like me back

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posted May 08, 2012 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have experienced moon sextile pluto with the first guy and moon trine pluto with an aries right now, but i've also experienced DW venus-pluto. The DW venus-pluto trumps the DW moon-pluto any day, even though they are both so intense. Venus-pluto completely changed me forever. And i never cried over DW moon-pluto but I did cry so much over DW venus-pluto

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posted May 08, 2012 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much Ami! <3

Here you go

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posted May 08, 2012 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[B]Ok
Ceri did point this put, very well.
Venus/Pluto is an erotic feeling that feels like you can't resist him

Moon/Pluto is one's deepest heart as a mother would have with a nursing baby and combined with primal passion. So, to me Moon/Pluto would trump Venus/Pluto in overall intensity.

Moon/Pluto would be washing someone's hair.

Ami, was this answer directed at me?
My question was more about Synastry compared to Composite. How would Moon/Pluto and Venus/Pluto be explained in our Composite chart? Sorry for not being clear enough.

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posted May 08, 2012 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[B]Ok
Ceri did point this put, very well.
Venus/Pluto is an erotic feeling that feels like you can't resist him

Moon/Pluto is one's deepest heart as a mother would have with a nursing baby and combined with primal passion. So, to me Moon/Pluto would trump Venus/Pluto in overall intensity.

Moon/Pluto would be washing someone's hair.

Ami, was this answer directed at me?
My question was more about Synastry compared to Composite. How would Moon/Pluto and Venus/Pluto be explained in our Composite chart? Sorry for not being clear enough.

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posted May 08, 2012 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Pluto Conjuncts Jupiter, Part of Fortune, Venus, Mercury, Pluto, Cupid, Valentine and Lust. Pluto Square Moon. Pluto Square Nessus.

What does that mean?


Again. I am Pluto. All the rest is her.

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posted May 08, 2012 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StelliumH6:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[B]Ok
Ceri did point this put, very well.
Venus/Pluto is an erotic feeling that feels like you can't resist him

Moon/Pluto is one's deepest heart as a mother would have with a nursing baby and combined with primal passion. So, to me Moon/Pluto would trump Venus/Pluto in overall intensity.

Moon/Pluto would be washing someone's hair.

Ami, was this answer directed at me?
My question was more about Synastry compared to Composite. How would Moon/Pluto and Venus/Pluto be explained in our Composite chart? Sorry for not being clear enough.


I don't understand the question lol

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posted May 08, 2012 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, what can u see in our synastry?

Thank you, dear

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posted May 08, 2012 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RAS you should make him feel really good with your Jupiter touching his stellium. Do You?

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posted May 08, 2012 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus conj Venus--you should feel aesthetically pleasing to each other. Do each of you feel the other is his "type"

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posted May 08, 2012 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he makes a HUGE impression on you. His Pluto conj your ASC.I had this with a guy and I could barely breathe


What is wrong? Your Neptune quincunx his venus. Your Moon trines his Neptune. The only thing I can see wrong is that you did not see him clearly i.e as he was.

Maybe, Lonake or Ceri could weigh in.

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posted May 08, 2012 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
he makes a HUGE impression on you. His Pluto conj your ASC.I had this with a guy and I could barely breathe


What is wrong? Your Neptune quincunx his venus. Your Moon trines his Neptune. The only thing I can see wrong is that you did not see him clearly i.e as he was.

Maybe, Lonake or Ceri could weigh in.


loll...YES barely breathe is right! we also have composite sun opposite netpune and when themes repeat themselves i always think it means something. So u must be right. But even so...dunno how that stops him from liking me. You know? He is married now and people have commented on how his wife reminds them of me, but she is very earthy, a taurus with aries moon and lots of earth. He has virgo moon and leo venus so i guess he looks for a fiery earthy chick and i have no earth though a lot of fire.

Do i make him laugh, you mean? lol..funny you should ask..

Sand's favorite love calculator really said how i felt it is between us. Like when he stops being a grumpy virgo moon with sun conjunct mars who has to pretend he's all macho and all that nonsense...then he gets kind of girly and he talks to me in the sweetest voice, its almost like he's doing baby talk or something, and then we make each other laugh and make funny faces at each other. And his laugh is really shy when he laughs at something i do to make him laugh, i noticed. Very different from when he laughs at something else. I know for sure he's physically attracted to me bc he always flirts just with his expression and slightly touching me accidentally when we're standing close to each other. We have venus conjunct mars...after all, heh.

This is what it says and i almost cried when i read it bc i was like how do they know!

"You are 95% compatible. Attached-at-the-Hip Much?
Could you guys please stop being so unbelievably ideal for each other, already? Yes, you're super attracted to each other, but everyone around you can tell that's just the tip of the relationship iceberg. You actually "get" what makes each other tick on a seriously deep emotional level (no... We're not talking about a drug-induced discussion on the intricacies of Pink Floyd's "The Wall"). And you do that weird thing... What's that called again? Oh, right. Empathize. You empathize with each other, so you're excellent sources of comfort when times get tough; similarly, you totally and unselfishly rejoice in each other's successes. To make matters even more insufferable, you're genuinely into the same sorts of music, hobbies, and entertainment; you probably even share the same iTunes playlist, and we're pretty sure we caught you giggling while watching "The Soup." Gross. So, yes: we know you're BFFs who are all "2-getha 4-eva." Now, take your little two-person perfection brigade and go somewhere you can't make us ill."

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posted May 08, 2012 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I have experienced moon sextile pluto with the first guy and moon trine pluto with an aries right now, but i've also experienced DW venus-pluto. The DW venus-pluto trumps the DW moon-pluto any day, even though they are both so intense. Venus-pluto completely changed me forever. And i never cried over DW moon-pluto but I did cry so much over DW venus-pluto

Interesting. Hmmm--why do you think that was the case. I had all of these with the same person i,e Moon/Pluto DW and Venus/Pluto DW. I just assumed the moon was stronger but I had them both with one person so it is hard to separate them. To me, what touches my moon is deeper than what touches Venus, I think.

Any thoughts? xx

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posted May 08, 2012 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know what u mean about what touches your moon being deeper than what touches ur venus. I agree with that too. But you havent noticed all the people on the forum crying about how their DW venus-pluto relationship was the love of their life? I would pretty much give my life for that guy. PRetty much.

I think when venus-pluto team up, it's just different. It's transformative love. Literally.

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posted May 08, 2012 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i know what u mean about what touches your moon being deeper than what touches ur venus. I agree with that too. But you havent noticed all the people on the forum crying about how their DW venus-pluto relationship was the love of their life? I would pretty much give my life for that guy. PRetty much.

I think when venus-pluto team up, it's just different. It's transformative love. Literally.



Yes, i totally agree. As I said, I had DW's of both Venus/Pluto and Moon/Pluto with the same person so it was hard to tell where I began and the other ended lol

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posted May 08, 2012 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, i totally agree. As I said, I had DW's of both Venus/Pluto and Moon/Pluto with the same person so it was hard to tell where I began and the other ended lol



Awww...<3

I can only imagine! wow

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posted May 08, 2012 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did he feel the same way? (your guy)

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posted May 08, 2012 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Awww...<3

I can only imagine! wow


RAS/Ami...
I have this with fishy both venus/pluto and moon/pluto its in the composite.

I have had moon/pluto before.. I have had venus pluto with every one my generation.

As they both have had effects on me.. They are very intense..
Having both of them at the same time, is just like BAMMMMM! BAMMM BAMMM... It just hits you so hard. Its unexplained.
(maybe mine because moon conjunct jupiter also) So maybe Jupiter increases it even more... Not sure...

I have experienced most of the pluto aspects.. (I also have pluto in H7) so all my relationships are pluto themed..
But this ONE! Just knocked my on my butt..
Everyone here knows how crazy Ive been about this... LOL
It has consumed my every thought. I feel like I cant function properly unless we are in contact...
The pull towards him is overpowering..
Its like there is this invisible rope tied to my waste when he runs one way, I go the other way, then BAM we just boomerang right back, no one "goes" back, we are pulled back to each other... Rather you like it or not.
Its to heavy to run, because your dragging the person behind you, your carrying their weight also.
Your chained to this person, now accept it! Is what pluto says!! Work on your issues together or deal with the consequence..
Deep down you say, OK I WILL accept the consequence.. SEE YA!
Yeah Pluto is NOT going to let you go easy... Pluto makes you FEEL the consequence! Suffer for not listening...
Thats how this has felt for me..

Ami I liked your post, the only thing I cant see to agree with is moon/pluto is like mother/child... I get what your saying.. The bond.. The love... But for me at least its so much different...
Because you love your kids, you dont fight to not love your kids, you JUST DO... Thats it..

In relationships moon/pluto wants you to FEEL.. Its more about learning about your emotions,your feelings... Venus/pluto is about learning about love, how to love...

Sometimes those lessons HURT.. But the end is you will never be the same.

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posted May 08, 2012 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Did he feel the same way? (your guy)

I hope he did

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posted May 08, 2012 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@RAS...
Looking at your synastry.. Do you think you can handle Saturn conjunct your ASC?? Especially with your Leo and Gem planets?

Me personally (leo and all) I couldnt take that... My ex husbands Saturn was in my H1 even though we stuck it out, I was not comfortable in my own skin... I felt really trapped and tied down... I lived like a boring person...

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posted May 08, 2012 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, Lioness
I hear you about the kids. It is different,of course but my body and soul felt so close to him and so free of boundaries as one would with a child. I felt that feeling of a nursing baby.

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posted May 08, 2012 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yep, Lioness
I hear you about the kids. It is different,of course but my body and soul felt so close to him and so free of boundaries as one would with a child. I felt that feeling of a nursing baby.


Ami with this person in the long run, what did you learn about your emotions/feelings and what did you learn about love?


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posted May 08, 2012 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami with this person in the long run, what did you learn about your emotions/feelings and what did you learn about love?


A LOT. I never had that romantic love that you see in novels like Wuthering heights. I had it once. I experienced it,once.

I learned so much but I can't put it into words. It just opened up a part of myself that was frozen. It unfroze. Love will do that, even if it doesn't work out

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posted May 08, 2012 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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A LOT. I never had that romantic love that you see in novels like Wuthering heights. I had it once. I experienced it,once.

I learned so much but I can't put it into words. It just opened up a part of myself that was frozen. It unfroze. Love will do that, even if it doesn't work out


Exactly it makes you FEEL! Kind of like
learn to feel,
open up your feelings,
learn to accept what you feel..
Deal with what you feel.

Cuz ready or not, the feelings are coming.

Im still working on dealing with it..

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