posted May 09, 2012 04:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Well, I think it is kind of a simmering violence. Do you agree Lonake xxx

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posted May 09, 2012 04:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Moon/Pluto would be washing someone's hair.

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posted May 09, 2012 05:56 AM            

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Originally posted by seaofjoy:
Moon Mars aspects, it is energy and emotions combined. The stuff i'm talking about is the lusty good stuff that makes you feel all warm and giddy inside!

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posted May 09, 2012 08:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]Moon/Pluto would be washing someone's hair.

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posted May 09, 2012 08:58 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Ow my.. a revival of the sweetest memory I have with Pisces(ex); directly after I came back from hospital showering together... not as a sensual act but to wash my greasy hair as it wasn't washed for more than a week and I couldn't do it myself.

My Pluto trine his Moon, pretty exact.

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posted May 09, 2012 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
i know what u mean about what touches your moon being deeper than what touches ur venus. I agree with that too. But you havent noticed all the people on the forum crying about how their DW venus-pluto relationship was the love of their life? I would pretty much give my life for that guy. PRetty much.

I think when venus-pluto team up, it's just different. It's transformative love. Literally.

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I agree. And I also agree that Moon is very very deep.

I see the difference when I compare the signs and houses both sets rule.

Moon - Pluto
connects
Cancer - Scorpio
4th house - 8th house
- all water
- the house of home with the house of transformation and passion
- hence the deep emotional passion and intimacy

Venus - Pluto
a)
Taurus - Scorpio
2ndd house - 8th house
- fixed houses
- connecting the "I-hemisphere" with the "You-hemisphere" in form of an opposition, hence the magnetic erotic attraction
- also both follow the "initiators of relationship", the 1st and 7th house, and the fixed quality adds either lastingness or fixation

posted May 09, 2012 11:23 AM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
I really liked your article Ami! I am very plutonian natally and so I Have to have pluto in synastry or the man really does nothing for me, its evenbetter if he is natally plutonin also.
I am going through major pluto transits right now and feel as if I have met the love of my life.
In synastry my sun-pluto-lilith conj(all 1*)falls in his 8th h and squares his venus.
My moon conj his moon in my 8th h and squares his mars-pluto opp.(we talked about moon-pluto synastry aspects in another thread and this is the man I said joked that he wanted me to breastfeed him,lol.)
My pluto is also exactly trining his mercury and sextiling his mars.
In composite pluto is conj the nodes in our 7th h and exacty trining our sun venus conj in the 5th h.

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That sounds nice, Scrappy! You have been through so much. I am glad you have a relationship as wonderful as this

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posted May 09, 2012 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I agree. And I also agree that Moon is very very deep.

I see the difference when I compare the signs and houses both sets rule.

Moon - Pluto
connects
Cancer - Scorpio
4th house - 8th house
- all water
- the house of home with the house of transformation and passion
- hence the deep emotional passion and intimacy

Venus - Pluto
a)
Taurus - Scorpio
2ndd house - 8th house
- fixed houses
- connecting the "I-hemisphere" with the "You-hemisphere" in form of an opposition, hence the magnetic erotic attraction
- also both follow the "initiators of relationship", the 1st and 7th house, and the fixed quality adds either lastingness or fixation

b)
Libra - Scorpio
7th - 8th house
- both in the relationship quadrant

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Ceridwen, I really, really like how you explained the basis of the diff. between Moon-Pluto and Venus-Pluto. I have both in synastry and, aside from feeling the typical intensity of Pluto, had no idea of the astrological basis.

posted May 09, 2012 07:06 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
hi ceridwen! do u think it'd be possible to tell why that guy didnt like me back? is it venus square pluto in both synastry and composite?

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posted May 09, 2012 10:25 PM            

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Moon/Pluto would be washing someone's hair.

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I think I have this with my hairdresser.
Not joking!

lol
I LOVE when he washes my hair. It feels sooooo good.

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posted May 09, 2012 10:29 PM            

Whereas with Moon-Pluto - you can be in love forever and a day (if the rest of the synastry is supportive, of course).

Venus-Pluto seem to be natural enemies in myth. Pluto was not happy with Venus making him fall in love and lose control over Persephone. And Venus was not happy with the Plutonian intensity and seriousness. Pluto is the God of Death. Venus is a playful goddess who does not take love or life very seriously.
There can be huge power plays and push&pull situations happening.

posted May 10, 2012 02:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Well I'm gonna butt in.
Venus/Pluto sq can love selfishly to fulfill needs for power/control over the romantic interest. There can be manipulations and power plays. Obv this is not love. But it is wielding control in the relationship for personal gain. That's just the sq alone no matter where it's found, a possible manifestation. The other side of that aspect, is someone wanting to get lost in the erotic pull of the other, and for the other to want to have them basically sexually hypnotized. Literally. It could go either way, either person playing Pluto or Venus. Those 2 manifestations seem to be the most common.
Re: the synastry, Sun/NN/Jup/Mars conj & trine to Saturn/Pluto is incredibly uplifting and crosses barriers w. ease, generating enthusiasm in communication, with a feeling that you could go the distance with each other. It's very supportive. But your Jup opp to his Neptune, there is a part of him that will always be out of reach, that will swim away when you try to grab hold and ask for his intentions (Gem Jup is v.verbal/chatty, wanting to know all sorts of tidbits), where he stands on an issue related to you, asking him to build something concrete. This is magnified by his Sun opp Neptune. The Jup opp Neptune, it's not even conscious I would bet on his part. It's just a natural reaction. It's easier to dream and to let Jupiter think what they wish, imagine them however they want them to be. So ask yourself if you are dreaming him up to be better than he truly is. Because Neptune in opp does not want to break that illusion. They don't want to have to answer to it either, they're willing to let it play out however it will, naturally. I think he didn't want to hurt you, but he couldn't find it in himself to answer to your expectations.
And I wouldn't be surprised if attraction did exist, mutually.

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Thanks so much Lonake.
But he doesnt like me.
I asked him. lol. Was trying to figure out why? You're saying he does like me, he just doesnt feel he could fulfill my expectations? No i really think he just thinks i'm not smart and that i act like a little girl. And the venus sq pluto part is spot on! yep! he likes to keep me sexually hypnotized, exactly.

But funnily enough, i can also get under his skin and make him shake and nervous around me when I want to.

posted May 10, 2012 03:06 AM            

can you give me the data please, so I can have a look?
Venus-square-Pluto on its own is not indicative of onesided feelings, though under certain circumstances it can be.