posted May 11, 2012 09:41 AM
Ras,first off: I think he liked you, but maybe not enough to be in love with you or seriously consider you as a romantic prospect.
I focus on the so called challenging aspects, as they will always be in the centre, and those are the ones that pose the most challenges if there are any.
I compare these with the natal charts to see if there is any "natal resonance". If there is resonance with only one person, there usually is a lopsided, often unrequited feelings-scenario.
For Romance, aspects and natal resonance with Venus or DESC (ASC) and also DESC-ruler or 5th ruler are especially important.
This leads us to this pivotal aspect, as we already knew:
your Pluto square his Venus
pluto/Venus resonates strongly through your chart as you have:
- Venus square Pluto
- DESC-ruler square Pluto exact
- 8th ruler square 2nd ruler
He actually has DESC-ruler trine Pluto,
but it is a widish aspect, even though still in orb (5 degrees), and trines give a subtle resonance, but are never strong enough on their own to carry the weight of a square.
And even with that you can easily say it is 3 strikes to 1 here, you are just so much more Venusian-Plutonian than he can really deal with.
Had he had DESC conjunct Pluto or Venus aspecing Pluto, I donīt think your feelings would have been unrequited, but he doesn`t have that unfortunately.
There are of course more aspects to consider, but I just singled out the one that stuck out the most.
What I also noticed is that there is a beautiful Jupiter-Sun-conjunction, which he resonates with (his 5th house ruler conjuncts Jupiter). This is a very happy content enthusiastic feeling-good combination.
I guess he liked your admiration and support (no matter if he said so or not) and therefore liked you, but just wasnīt romantically attracted.
Maybe there was playful verbal banter involved here, a bit of flirting, but for him all very much on a superficial playful level.
Next I am checking for aspects to the ruler of 5th and 7th house. I have found that without these usually attractions do not occur.
Conjunctions are the strongest, oppositions work, too.
Squares interestingly work sometimes as well, if the ASC is the one squaring the ruler of that house. It is a bit stormy, but usually denotes a strong attraction to the ASC-owner. Other planets in square do not always work that well, it depends on the planet. Sun and Mars seem to work better than Moon. Maybe Moon is simply too sensitive and too much needing of harmony. Venus sometimes is not really all that keen on squares either.
Anyway, so we see:
your 5th house ruler trine his Moon
square his ASC
conjunct his IC
his main axis are strongly triggering your 5th house (ruler) - no wonder he sparked something off in you! (and with your resonance to the Venus-pluto-square it would feel pretty intense for you).
his 5th house ruler is not completely unaspected, but trine your Venus, which is your chartruler.
That is actually quite nice. But as I said, trines do not make your heart miss a beat, even though they feel quite cuddly and pleasant (and you need some of their harmony!), but if these are the only aspects it might not evoke a storm of fiery passion.
What it means though is that he liked you (trine to your chartruler Venus).
the 7th house ruler does not tell us about sparks (unless tied to Mars, Pluto or ASC maybe), but if you consider each other a possible mate for a long lasting romantic partnership. it is romantic in the sense that you can imagine to actually be in a relationship with that person.
Your DESC-ruler conjuncts his ASC-ruler Venus and sextiles his ASC.
Well, that conjunction indicates that you very much considered him a possible mate for you, a "perfect" partner who seemed to be very attractive for you.
his DESC-ruler on the other hand had no strong aspects to your chart, or at least to identity-planets/angles in your chart.
I guess you just werenīt the type he was looking for in a mate.
third step is composite:
the outstanding challenges in the composite are (of course there were nice and pleasant things as well):
° Sun conjunct Medea in Cancer, opposite Neptune in Capricorn, square Ophelia in Libra.
now, I put Medea and Ophelia into your charts for a reason following a hunch I had.
Ophelia is indicative of the rejected lover (as Hamlet rejected her, no matter if he still loved her or not); often it indicates unrequited feelings.
Medea has a multilayered symbolism, but in relationships, the two themes dominate:
1) Extreme (compulsive) love
2) betrayal
Medea was a princess who fell in love with the hero Jason, helped him by betraying her family, went away with him, swept up in her passion with him, had two kids with him, only to be abandoned by him, when he could climb the social ladder by marrying another princess.
She exacted revenge in killing their two children and his bride.
now, of course Medea will not always indicate these severe actions.
But it seems to indicate how you can fall for a person that you seemingly lose your mind, and are just completely enthralled with them to the point that you would do anything for them, without even seeing that the other person doesnīt feel the same for you.
it was not that jason did not like Medea, but he just did not see their affair as so serious as she did. Besides he was a b****** imo. lol
The fact that Medea is conjunct the composite Sun (the heart of the relationship) and Ophelia is of the opposition to the Sun-Neptune-opposition shows imo that the theme of unrequited feelings, based on dreams and false hopes (neptune in its challenging form) will come up.
it doesnīt yet say who would feel it the most, for that we have to see if it links to the natal charts.
° Moon square Saturn:
speaking of possible emotional repression, though could also be extremely responsible
° Venus square Pluto
The Sun-Neptune-opposition was created because both of you have it natally, make it THE core theme of your relationship in your composite.
you resonate with the Venus-Pluto square of the composite.
I haven`t really seen too much resonance iwth the Moon-Saturn-square: maybe that was just a by-product, not sure.
Anyway checking for conjunctions/ oppositions of the composite charts to the natal.
first off the planets that trigger SYNASTRIC aspects.
The composite Venus, chartruler (what it`s about so to speak):
conjunct both your chartrulers Venus and your DESC-ruler mars.
Both of you react to that, and probably found the connection pleasant, but in your case it also connects to your DESC-ruler, making you think of it as a possible romantic partnership.
° composite SN:
conjuncts your ASC/Ophelia
conjuncts his Saturn and Pluto
(composite NN conjuncts your DESC - you felt like this could be a fated relationship).
The SN on your ASC/Ophelia and his Saturn/Pluto looks very karmic, like the scenario of rejection stems in a past life.
It also looks like there was a clear purpose in transformation for this, possibly more important to you than him, but cannot say for certain.
his perspective in the composite:
° c-Jupiter conjunct his Moon:
emphasizes again that he probably feels quite good emotionally in it
° c-Saturn opposite his Mercury, conjunct his Jupiter and conjunct his 5th house ruler Uranus
Here he is affected the most from the Moon-Saturn-square (esp. the Saturn), and I bet his 5th house ruler Uranus does not like the seriousness of this composite Saturn a little bit! Like he fears this relatiosnhip would demand too much commitment of him, more than his 5th house ruler likes and feels good with
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your perspective:
° csun and Medea conjunct your mercury and opposite your IC-ruler; C-neptuen opposite your mercury and conjunct your uranus
so this core-connection and challenge affects your natal chart strongly and probably will or has triggered a change in thinking in you. Since Uranus rules your IC, it might have shaken the very foundations of your soul.
° composite Mars conjunct your Sun and Vertex:
it must have felt pretty fated, especially the physical aspect of it, (or the possible physical aspect)
° composite Vertex conjunct your Sun and Antivertex conjunct your Saturn and 5th house ruler Neptune
Some more fated moments, or more specifically, turning points in that connection that activated your romantic side but also the sense of possible rejection (Saturn is conjunct Neptune and opposite Sun for you).
This actually looks pretty karmic all in all.
Lindaland
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