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Topic: What Makes for Passion?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 07, 2012 08:07 PM
What Makes for Passion? By amiann | Published: May 7, 2012I am talking passion with soul, here. I am not talking longevity. Pluto is the king of passion.Pluto is the majestic tiger strolling through the veld. Look at how he moves with the grace of a dancer. Look at how he is attuned to his senses. Look at how he takes what he wants. Translate that to a man looking at you from across the room. Transpose the tiger over him and you will have Pluto come to life. In synastry, his Pluto must be touching yours and vice-versa for you to feel anything. Pluto has it’s own flavor based on what it touches. If his Pluto touches your Venus, he will make you feel like the most beautiful female who ever walked the earth. If you are a shy type, you will transform. If you wore flannel nightgowns, you will don black silk. You will walk differently. You will have the persona of a sexy woman as you will feel as if you have found your inner animal. That is the power of his Pluto touching your Venus. If his Pluto touches your moon, you will be hooked beyond Pluto/Venus.Pluto/Venus will fade away as Pluto/Moon pushes you under the tidal wave of passion. The Moon is the tides . Moon/Pluto seems to leave people breathless more than any single aspect in synastry. This is because it is the union of your deepest heart with his primal passion. The moon represents a certain slice of oneself, whether we be a man or a woman. . The moon is the mother. You know the fierceness of a mother’s love. Think mother tiger. What would she do to protect her babies? That is what you would do to protect the man who touches your Moon with his Pluto. The same goes for him with you.The moon is our inner child . What do we love so much about children? They lead with their hearts. We open our heart to our lover when he touches our Moon with his Pluto. That is why Moon/Pluto is so powerful. It encompasses many different kinds of love which rarely go together. Think the love of a mother for a nursing baby. That is the intensity. I will take a brief detour from passion to talk about soul, per se. Moon touching Moon is soul. This will be the case with a platonic friend, a child, a relative or a lover. Soul touching soul may be the most beautiful aspect to have, surpassing passion. See how your moon touches his if you want soul love. I do not think people can have soul love with moon square moon or moon opposed to moon. This is my personal opinion, only. I cannot leave the topic of passion without talking about some of the asteroids. We have the dark asteroids, Nessus and Dejanira. These given a certain kind of passion, a dark passion. I have seen soul mate charts which do not have this dark passion. The relationship seems to last longer without it.Perhaps, the intensity which may burns up the longevity. These are speculations based on samples not large enough to form actual theories, so I will leave it in the realm of speculation. However, in my limited sample of readings, this seems to be the case in most of the Nessus/Dejanira relationships. There are other asteroids for passion. Lilith is raw passion. When one person’s Lilith hits another’s planet or angle, one will experience raw passion. This passion is not dark, as in Nessus and Dejanira. It is simply passion that exists on it’s own. It is not soul, either. It is passion unleashed, would be the best way to phrase it. Each asteroid has a slightly different twist when we are talking about something love and passion. The Apollo asteroid is about worshipful adoration. When the woman’s planet touches the mans Apollo, she will worship him. The same would be true if his planet touched her Apollo. There are many other asteroids I could add here. I may do this, at a later time. However, this is a good start to answer the question of “What Makes for Passion?” ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9347 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 07, 2012 08:35 PM
I like it. Have you done a write up for Mars/Pluto in synastry, Ami?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 07, 2012 08:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: I like it. Have you done a write up for Mars/Pluto in synastry, Ami?
Thanks Lonake. No, I didn't put that in but please tell me and maybe I will add to it.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 07, 2012 09:01 PM
To me, Pluto/Mars is more of contention than passionate, I suppose, more violence than passion lol Do you agree, Lonake?------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9347 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 07, 2012 09:36 PM
I was just interested in your take on it, is all IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 07, 2012 09:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: I was just interested in your take on it, is all
Well, I think it is kind of a simmering violence. Do you agree Lonake xxx
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 08, 2012 07:38 AM
Any more thoughts on this? I was thinking of Mars square Pluto.I have had that and it feels like simmering violence. What do you think? How would the trine be? I didn't talk about it cuz I never experienced the trine or anything else--just the square which seems more violence than passion. I would love to hear any of your experiences with any of what I wrote about! xIP: Logged |
Robin Goodfellow Knowflake Posts: 201 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted May 08, 2012 07:56 AM
Crassness makes for a nice dose of passion. Crass aspects but I don't know about horary astrology. Just my aspects against the "weaker gender"! Kidding. Saturn square Uranus Mars square Saturn Mars opposition Uranus Venus opposition Uranus Uranian novelty and rebellion combined with squared saturn purely weird and hencce passionate hee hee. www.astrofix.net Planet Combinations. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 08, 2012 08:08 AM
Totally Robin. Great point. If a person has a wonderful Uranus, you know kink will come into play ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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lilithpluto Knowflake Posts: 2450 From: pluto Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 08, 2012 08:09 AM
Very nicely written! Thank you for sharing!Okie, I'll go check on charts now. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6757 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 08, 2012 08:34 AM
Pluto Conjuncts Jupiter, Part of Fortune, Venus, Mercury, Pluto, Cupid, Valentine and Lust. Pluto Square Moon. Pluto Square Nessus.What does that mean? Pretty obnoxious huh? IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1296 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 08, 2012 08:56 AM
Well lol, maybe both our natal EXACT Venus/Neptune aspects (him conj., me trine) are making things up here but the DW-synastry Mars/Pluto (square and trine both within 1*!) REALLY felt like LOVE-at-first-sight! (okay, now I'm sure how that feels ) And from that day on I experience the biggest devotion ever and ofcourse I am AS devoted to him. And a strange thing, we haven't got ONE single doubt about the fact that WE-WANT each other regarding ALL areas of life (please let us live our soap bubble until it explodes ) hm.. I hope I won't pass away before we share our first kiss.. If that isn't enough passion...? And this is going on for MONTHS now... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 08, 2012 09:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: Pluto Conjuncts Jupiter, Part of Fortune, Venus, Mercury, Pluto, Cupid, Valentine and Lust. Pluto Square Moon. Pluto Square Nessus.What does that mean? Pretty obnoxious huh?
Is this synastry, Ian? Which is which--person wise?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 08, 2012 09:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by lilithpluto: Very nicely written! Thank you for sharing!Okie, I'll go check on charts now.
Thank you so much Lilith! xx ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6757 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 08, 2012 11:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Is this synastry, Ian? Which is which--person wise?
I'm Pluto. The rest is her. She has everything highly concentrated in Virgo in 3rd House. My Pluto is in the 7th House in Virgo.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 10961 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 08, 2012 11:44 AM
Ami, I liked your article very much for most part. There were just two remarks I want to make: Venus/Pluto doesn`t fade away any more than Moon/Pluto does, BUT it is a very different interaction, that is for sure. The Moon is more intimate, and Venus more oriented towards others.
And hten you said about Lilith: "It is not soul, either" If you were talking about the asteroid I agree. If you were talking about Black Moon Lilith I vehemently disagree, as this is the "dark side of the Moon", it is very much about soul, but coupled with a primal "wildness". Black Moon Lilith seems to has Moon-Pluto-flavour on its own. And now imagine coupling it with either Moon or Pluto in synastry. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 08, 2012 11:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Ami, I liked your article very much for most part. There were just two remarks I want to make: Venus/Pluto doesn`t fade away any more than Moon/Pluto does, BUT it is a very different interaction, that is for sure. The Moon is more intimate, and Venus more oriented towards others.
And hten you said about Lilith: "It is not soul, either" If you were talking about the asteroid I agree. If you were talking about Black Moon Lilith I vehemently disagree, as this is the "dark side of the Moon", it is very much about soul, but coupled with a primal "wildness". Black Moon Lilith seems to has Moon-Pluto-flavour on its own. And now imagine coupling it with either Moon or Pluto in synastry.
Thanks Ceri. I am always open for constructive criticism I was not talking about BML. I am not familiar with her. This was the traditional Lilith Well, I suppose Moon/Pluto grabbed me more intensely than Venus/Pluto. So to me, it was more mind blowing and soul altering. I always think that what touches the moon is the deepest of anything. Do you agree? ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Starry~* Knowflake Posts: 402 From: New York, USA Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 08, 2012 12:03 PM
My pluto semi-sextile his sun at 0'01s My pluto is opposing his moon (but fairly wide) My pluto is conjunct his mars My pluto sextile his venusHis pluto conjunct my venus at 0'56s His pluto conjunct my mercury/pluto His mars conjunct my venus I have the merc/venus/pluto stellium in my 1st house. He has his mars conj pluto in his 1st house. All in scorpio!!!!
Should I run for the hills?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 08, 2012 12:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by mir: Well lol, maybe both our natal EXACT Venus/Neptune aspects (him conj., me trine) are making things up here but the DW-synastry Mars/Pluto (square and trine both within 1*!) REALLY felt like LOVE-at-first-sight! (okay, now I'm sure how that feels ) And from that day on I experience the biggest devotion ever and ofcourse I am AS devoted to him. And a strange thing, we haven't got ONE single doubt about the fact that WE-WANT each other regarding ALL areas of life (please let us live our soap bubble until it explodes ) hm.. I hope I won't pass away before we share our first kiss.. If that isn't enough passion...? And this is going on for MONTHS now...
I am so very,very happy for you Mir. It made my day to hear about your happiness! ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 10961 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 08, 2012 12:25 PM
Ami,Yes, I agree. But I wouldn`t dismiss Venus/Pluto totally. It`s more erotic than soulful though. Anyway, I definitely degree on asteroid LIlith not being so much about the soul. I haven`t seen that either.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 08, 2012 12:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Ami,Yes, I agree. But I wouldn`t dismiss Venus/Pluto totally. It`s more erotic than soulful though. Anyway, I definitely degree on asteroid LIlith not being so much about the soul. I haven`t seen that either.
No, Ceri, I did not mean to dismiss Venus/Pluto at all. I gave the wrong impression, perhaps. It is very,very erotic *sigh*
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StelliumH6 Knowflake Posts: 417 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 08, 2012 05:32 PM
Ami, question for you, please.Pisces and I have in our Synastry chart (Placidus houses used) Moon (me) square Pluto (him) 8 degrees, and Venus (me) square Pluto (him) 9 degrees. I understand very wide orbs. Then in our Composite we have Moon sextile Pluto 3* and Venus trine Pluto 3*. What is the difference between Moon/Pluto and Venus/Pluto in Synastry <> Composite? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 08, 2012 06:01 PM
Ok Ceri did point this put, very well. Venus/Pluto is an erotic feeling that feels like you can't resist himMoon/Pluto is one's deepest heart as a mother would have with a nursing baby and combined with primal passion. So, to me Moon/Pluto would trump Venus/Pluto in overall intensity. Moon/Pluto would be washing someone's hair. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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RunAroundScreaming Moderator Posts: 7769 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 08, 2012 06:23 PM
We haveDW moon-pluto sextiles DW moon-neptune trines DW moon-saturn trines His sun conjunct my jupiter and mercury Venus conjunct venus My mars conjunct his venus My venus trine his uranus His venus square my pluto Liz Greene's relationship horoscope says "You and _____ may sometimes feel as though you have stumbled into the pages of a Barbara Cartland novel. An intensely romantic and perhaps overly idealised quality of feeling is likely to" and "The keynote of your relationship with _____ is enchantment. This quality of dreamlike beauty and bewitchment embraces many dimensions of reality, from the erotic to the spiritual." That is exactly how it feels. My very first crush ever. Fell in love at first sight at the age of five. But he doesnt and never felt the same. Our composite has sun sextile moon, sun trine pluto, moon conjunct jupiter, trine neptune, and sextile pluto, so it is not bad either. I dont understand how he couldnt feel the same way...He would certainly flirt with me all the time. But he said he doesnt like me like that. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 52997 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 08, 2012 06:25 PM
Hmmmm RAS I don't get it. Put up the synastry, if you want with him on the outside. Lets see what the deal is, if we can.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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