posted June 01, 2012 02:19 PM            

You are trying to find deeper meaning into how you respond to others and how they are responding to you. Your focus of the planets in the signs and house positions is part of the process, but you appear to be ignoring your natal aspects between the planets too. The aspects are where you will find the strongest information concerning your interactions with others. It seems to me, that you may have Neptune strongly aspected.

If you are willing to share your birth date, I will try and Astrologically investigate your situation further.

posted June 01, 2012 03:56 PM            

I've never really felt emotionally fulfilled in most friendships I've had, but I've been lucky to make a few that were fulfilling... but ironically enough far away. (My Venus is here trine Saturn which maybe explains why I usually feel lonely in friendships and groups even if I appear to be well-liked.)

posted June 01, 2012 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:

Thanks, Crissy.

Out of my cardinal planets, four of the five are personal planets (Sun, Mercury, Moon, Mars). So, the issues brought up by those planets/houses really hit me hard/strike close to home.

Being around different people would be good because I would have no wishes or expectations. The only thing that I'd want to be sure to avoid if at all possible is a group where everyone else knows each other except me. I've experienced that several times and it just never goes well. It's a disaster every time and is always awkward. So, I'd probably try for either a larger class (less likelihood of getting to know people/less personal/even if there are cliques or a clique, still other options) or else a class that's not like that. Problem is, sometimes that happens within majors--people get to know each other and bunch up. But, we'll see. I ended up falling asleep not long after I got home yesterday, so I'll probably write tonight and ask.

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Sometimes it can be more pressure being around friends than strangers.At least you have no expectations,and your doing it for your own fun/growth.Yeah its kinda awkward when everyone is already grouped up.I've been in similar situations,its like they don't even wanna acknowledge you very HS.Hopefully you get lucky in get in a class where nobody knows each other.

posted June 01, 2012 05:01 PM            

I don't really feel comfortable posting my chart, but suffice to say that I have strong cardinal influence and a few squares.

The thing is, I personally do have ideas, like to organize things, get people together...but it just never works out. Outside of being a mod here, I almost never get to lead, even though I would really like to in a few areas of life.

These are mostly people that I've known awhile, with occasional new ones thrown in, so it's a mix of old and new.

As for how I dress, I try to look presentable, but not like a tramp. I don't dress frumpy, but I don't like revealing clothes. I honestly don't want to date and meet men, so I'm not looking for romance, but I would still like to be friends with guys as well as girls.

I do feel stuck in the wrong place, but getting a job that would get me out of here would be extremely difficult. I'm trying to explore a few different paths, but whichever path I take, there are no guarantees that I'll ever find a job that would let me be financially secure, something that I like/am good at, and something stable, out of this city.

I LOVED being in France. Socially, things didn't work out well (though there are some people that I won't forget), but I loved being in the country itself. I love the language. I loved feeling free.

posted June 01, 2012 05:02 PM            

I used to be a confident person. One of the main ways I was confident was that I celebrated my weirdness. IOW, I accepted my weird side, as human i.e as part of being human.

I embraced it and usually joked about it. People, who were worried about their own weird side, relaxed. I was very popular when I was in this mode.

This is my opinion. I really think psychology is a factor in making people feel like have to live up to some mental health standard of perfection, which does not exist when you are dealing with people.

In this way, psychology damages people imho.

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posted June 01, 2012 07:23 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
What else, if anything, should I be learning from my Aries north node?

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To stop being so wrapped up in what others are doing and keep your own counsel. Develop true independence. In short, telling others to f*ck off, and being perfectly fine with it.

Big lesson for us Librans. I suggest finding those who have Aries decanates and dwads, and working up to actual Aries Suns. They can be a bit much to take at first until you're really getting along with your inner b*tch. Then they're awesome.

Me, 2008. 'Oh, my God. Tony Stark* is a total a*shole!'
Me, 2012. 'Tony Stark is frickin' hilarious. Probably my favourite character right now.'

It's all perspective. And if you're going to do the Aries thing, and you REALLY do want it to be socially kosher, develop your humour. The more charismatic you are, the easier it is to be, as my best friend puts it, 'a sarcastic pr*ck.'

It's a fun process, too. Don't let it feel like work and drag you down. Own it.

* The Tony Stark incarnation from the Iron Man films, developed by Robert Downey Jr is a reflection of the actor himself, who OWNS his Aries nature and then some. This character is kind of embodiment of what we've come to expect from the sign - complete with lots of red, racing cars, and a charismatic, virally hysterical arrogance. He's like, the poster child for Aries right now. It's pretty amusing.

posted June 01, 2012 07:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have Pluto in the 11th. I am going to say something from my own experience. I am not telling anyone to do anything, or not do anything.

I used to be a confident person. One of the main ways I was confident was that I celebrated my weirdness. IOW, I accepted my weird side, as human i.e as part of being human.

I embraced it and usually joked about it. People, who were worried about their own weird side, relaxed. I was very popular when I was in this mode.

This is my opinion. I really think psychology is a factor in making people feel like have to live up to some mental health standard of perfection, which does not exist when you are dealing with people.

In this way, psychology damages people imho.

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I totally agree. Let the freak flag fly. Oddly, people have more respect, are more intrigued, and accepting, of those who do rather than those who try too hard to 'fit in'.

Great advice, and a wonderful means of handling your perceived 'defect', Ami.

posted June 01, 2012 07:52 PM            

I feel like my popularity is always fluctuating.
Sometimes I feel like I have a lot of friends and sometimes I don't...or somewhere in between.
Right now I do not feel very popular.

I also have an issue where I like to be asked, and not the asker. But I will sometimes. But yeah it does get discouraging to be the asker, when your friend has other plans, or just does not reply back.

I'm not a desperate person either, cause if I was then I would consider my self friends with a girl who always asks me for wine and money for weed every time she wants to hang out. I don't play that sh!t so I ignore her calls and texts.

Many friends come and go, and sometimes come back in my life.

posted June 01, 2012 07:54 PM            

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posted June 01, 2012 10:54 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
To stop being so wrapped up in what others are doing and keep your own counsel. Develop true independence. In short, telling others to f*ck off, and being perfectly fine with it.

Big lesson for us Librans. I suggest finding those who have Aries decanates and dwads, and working up to actual Aries Suns. They can be a bit much to take at first until you're really getting along with your inner b*tch. Then they're awesome.

Me, 2008. 'Oh, my God. Tony Stark* is a total a*shole!'
Me, 2012. 'Tony Stark is frickin' hilarious. Probably my favourite character right now.'

It's all perspective. And if you're going to do the Aries thing, and you REALLY do want it to be socially kosher, develop your humour. The more charismatic you are, the easier it is to be, as my best friend puts it, 'a sarcastic pr*ck.'

It's a fun process, too. Don't let it feel like work and drag you down. Own it.

* The Tony Stark incarnation from the Iron Man films, developed by Robert Downey Jr is a reflection of the actor himself, who OWNS his Aries nature and then some. This character is kind of embodiment of what we've come to expect from the sign - complete with lots of red, racing cars, and a charismatic, virally hysterical arrogance. He's like, the poster child for Aries right now. It's pretty amusing.

-A.

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I'm sorry Indigo but there is a whole lot more to us Aries than being b!tches and a-holes (which we're not). There are plenty of b!tches and a-holes in other signs as well. Let's not generalize here. And if Platero should embrace the Aries energy, I would want people to advice her to embrace the positives mostly. There is a whole lot more to us than our self-centredness. A whole lot more. How about our innocence? We are the children of the zodiac, always without hidden agendas. How about our loyalty, we fight for our friends and family members, we defend what we believe in. How about our contagious enthusiasm and our lust for life? You know what it is said about Aries eyes, that they sparkle? It's true, they sparkle with joy for life. How about our apreciation for the present moment and the future? We don't waste time, we're fast and always on the move. How about our courage to start things? How about our determination?.....

posted June 01, 2012 11:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
I'm sorry Indigo but there is a whole lot more to us Aries than being b!tches and a-holes (which we're not). There are plenty of b!tches and a-holes in other signs as well. Let's not generalize here. And if Platero should embrace the Aries energy, I would want people to advice her to embrace the positives mostly. There is a whole lot more to us than our self-centredness. A whole lot more. How about our innocence? We are the children of the zodiac, always without hidden agendas. How about our loyalty, we fight for our friends and family members, we defend what we believe in. How about our contagious enthusiasm and our lust for life? You know what it is said about Aries eyes, that they sparkle? It's true, they sparkle with joy for life. How about our apreciation for the present moment and the future? We don't waste time, we're fast and always on the move. How about our courage to start things? How about our determination?.....

And so on, and so forth. Yes, Aries can be selfish. But we make up for that, with plenty. There are many things to learn from us Aries, not just how to be selfish. EVERY person is selfish, in their own way. Even the martyrs are selfish, in their own way. But at least our selfishness is pure and uncomplicated and not wired into many psychological rationalizations.

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Sigh.

Missed. The point. Entirely.

All right, let's try again, shall we? Cool.

The thing I really appreciate, enjoy, and have learnt from those who have Aries in their makeup, which I just haven't gotten from other signs, is a kind of innocent overconfidence. It's hysterical. There's this bouncy, my-way-or-the-highway leadership quality which vastly differs from Leo or Cap. It's as if they're always ready to follow up with, 'Oops, my bad.' They don't intend to offend, and those who get offended, are honestly (I've discovered) way too damned sensitive.

My friends who are both Aries Sun and decanates and dwads, (it's my Mercury dwad) have taught me how to just not CARE what others think - in a very different manner from Aquarius, or Sag. It's been such a wonderful liberating experience. Oh, sure, we can certainly butt heads when THEIR way is not what -I- want to be doing at the moment, but I respect their indomitable spirit - and hellbent ways.

More than anything, because I know they NEVER MEAN ILL. There's ZERO malice in it. Kinda like Sag and foot-in-mouth disease. There's no manipulation in Aries; that's something else. They're not trying to GET anywhere by being what they are, or saying, or doing. They're just sort of going along - like an unstoppable force. Is it it any wonder my Aries characters are the momentum characters? No one can really stop them. They don't just drive the plot - if the plot starts dragging, IT starts moving with THEM.

That's Aries for me. I appreciate the blunt honesty and youthful momentum. And I really don't see how 'inner b*tch' is a derogatory term. We ALL have to learn how to harness that more selfish, forceful side of ourselves; or, God help you, it WILL find a way to express itself in SOME way or another.

posted June 01, 2012 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
I'm sorry Indigo but there is a whole lot more to us Aries than ...

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Oh. Hah. BTW, don't be offended if I basically repeated what you said in my earlier reply. I didn't read beyond, 'I'm sorry, Indigo. There is a whole lot more to ... '

After that point, I just hit 'quote' and replied. Which turned out surprisingly good, as we're on the same page here.

posted June 01, 2012 11:25 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Sigh.

Missed. The point. Entirely.

All right, let's try again, shall we? Cool.

The thing I really appreciate, enjoy, and have learnt from those who have Aries in their makeup, which I just haven't gotten from other signs, is a kind of innocent overconfidence. It's hysterical. There's this bouncy, my-way-or-the-highway leadership quality which vastly differs from Leo or Cap. It's as if they're always ready to follow up with, 'Oops, my bad.' They don't intend to offend, and those who get offended, are honestly (I've discovered) way too damned sensitive.

My friends who are both Aries Sun and decanates and dwads, (it's my Mercury dwad) have taught me how to just not CARE what others think - in a very different manner from Aquarius, or Sag. It's been such a wonderful liberating experience. Oh, sure, we can certainly butt heads when THEIR way is not what -I- want to be doing at the moment, but I respect their indomitable spirit - and hellbent ways.

More than anything, because I know they NEVER MEAN ILL. There's ZERO malice in it. Kinda like Sag and foot-in-mouth disease. There's no manipulation in Aries; that's something else. They're not trying to GET anywhere by being what they're saying, or what they're doing. They're just sort of going along - like an unstoppable force. Is it it any wonder my Aries characters are the momentum characters? No one can really stop them. They don't just drive the plot - if the plot starts dragging, IT starts moving with THEM.

That's Aries for me. I appreciate the blunt honesty and youthful momentum. And I really don't see how 'inner b*tch' is a derogatory term. We ALL have to learn how to harness that more selfish, forceful side of ourselves; or, God help you, it WILL find a way to express itself in SOME way or another.

-A.

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posted June 01, 2012 11:30 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I disagree that being offended by an Aries means you are oversensitive,I am as a general rule very hard to offend unless the person is willfully and purposely trying to be disrespectful, and that is what I have encountered from several Aries folks. They made me so Dang mad I wanted to ring their necks.

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They CAN be quite full of themselves, yeah. But that's why you can't take it too seriously. Again, it's like Hera said. They're the kiddos of the zodiac. The four-year-old who's ramming into things with his toy car is going to become frustrating, but he doesn't MEAN to upset you. You just don't really figure into his reality at that particular moment.

But I like this sort of in-your-face quality exhibited by Aries, (and I don't just mean Sun - the sign in general). It's obviously a seriously winning combination when tempered with Virgo, balanced with Libra, and softened by some Water influence. But, in general, I get that they're just doing their thing.

It DOES sometimes get on my nerves. But I think of the four-year-old and the toy car, and then I relax, and try and harmonise the situation.

But then I AM a Libran.

-A.

posted June 01, 2012 11:53 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
They CAN be quite full of themselves, yeah. But that's why you can't take it too seriously. Again, it's like Hera said. They're the kiddos of the zodiac. The four-year-old who's ramming into things with his toy car is going to become frustrating, but he doesn't MEAN to upset you. You just don't really figure into his reality at that particular moment.

But I like this sort of in-your-face quality exhibited by Aries, (and I don't just mean Sun - the sign in general). It's obviously a seriously winning combination when tempered with Virgo, balanced with Libra, and softened by some Water influence. But, in general, I get that they're just doing their thing.

It DOES sometimes get on my nerves. But I think of the four-year-old and the toy car, and then I relax, and try and harmonise the situation.

But then I AM a Libran.

-A.

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posted June 02, 2012 12:58 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Oh. Hah. BTW, don't be offended if I basically repeated what you said in my earlier reply. I didn't read beyond, 'I'm sorry, Indigo. There is a whole lot more to ... '

After that point, I just hit 'quote' and replied. Which turned out surprisingly good, as we're on the same page here.

-A.

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posted June 02, 2012 01:02 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

let me tell y'all a little story. When I was 18 years old the company i was working for hired a 16 year old Aries boy, several of his family members were in management. From the first day he started he was always making smart@** comments towards me, like I have a nicer car, I have hotter girls, I bet you couldn't get one to save your life.and that's not even half of the smartass stuff he would say on a daily basis.I tried ignoring him for a month or two, than I started getting ****** , I said " look, I'm getting extremely tired of this,you are being extremely disrespectful and I wont tolerate it, and after that it only intensified, and on top of that he was challenging me asking" what are you gonna do about it? Soon after I was almost angry to the point of being violent, but the problem was he was 16 and I was 18 so if I beat the crap out of him I would have went to jail,so I quit that job, because I knew things would have gotten ugly, plus his family was in management, so he was not held accountable for his behavior. Noe does that sound like a sweet innocent aries.

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posted June 02, 2012 01:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
That sounds like an obnoxious guy and I would have kicked his a$$ in no time lol. But that is just one person, AG91. You can't judge the whole sign for one person's mistakes. Aren't there obnoxious Aquas out there? For sure there are. Or Geminis, or Cancers, or Leos etc. As I said, plenty of b!tches and a-holes in all signs. This one happened to be an Aries. He did teach you how to deal with obnoxious people and manage your anger, as I can see, so it wasn't all in vain.

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posted June 02, 2012 02:15 AM            

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posted June 02, 2012 02:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
I'm sorry Indigo but there is a whole lot more to us Aries than being b!tches and a-holes (which we're not). There are plenty of b!tches and a-holes in other signs as well. Let's not generalize here. And if Platero should embrace the Aries energy, I would want people to advice her to embrace the positives mostly.

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Someone needs help embracing their inner Aries?
When?
Where?
What time?

I don't necessarily agree that Aries are the "children" of the zodiac. Frankly, I think that's an antiquated belief (not aiming this specifically at you Hera, your post did us proud!). Just as any sign in the zodiac can be a*holes, any sign can be childish and so on. We all have the same traits but it's the degrees and the lasting effects of those traits that separate us from each other. From my experience with Pisces, I would say they are childish because they lack the social grace and demeanor of Libras, and the emotional control of a Capricorn.

To put it bluntly (as an Aries does best Platero, no point in mincing words. Feelings will always heal and start a new.) you're not sure enough. I mean in almost EVERY post you ever make I notice you make sure to end with "Not trying to offend," or "I'm honestly just curious," when the truth is you're simply not willing to OWN your own opinion. I used that as an example because encompassing Aries traits has more to do with owning or taking responsibility for your own flaws, rather than incorporating new (Aries) ones. Owning your own person.