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mercuranian
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posted June 15, 2012 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gem-Gurl:
We talking bout things gettin jammed up ass*s. Its all the same, either way. In my book anyway

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posted June 15, 2012 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gem-Gurl:
We talking bout things gettin jammed up ass*s. Its all the same, either way. In my book anyway


*jammed* this is an exaggeration. if you are jamming anything even up a vagina then I say dont do it.

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posted June 15, 2012 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i would also like to add being a guy i have friends who have tried it and liked it and none of their reasons for liking it had anything to do with asserting dominance, it was all because of a certain word that starts with T

Sorry to keep jumping in on this thread, but I can see where aquaguy and butterfly are coming from , maybe it’s my Aqua venus but even though I’ve never done it, in itself those kinds of things don’t bother me that much, I find it humerous if anything lol, but everyone is different, and he shouldn’t try to tell you how to feel about it

I don’t think he’s necessarily lying or trying to be manipulative by saying that it might actually mean something to him/you. I’m glad I haven’t tried this because if I did with someone that I wasn’t in a serious/stable relationship with it would feel very degrading I think, and I would probably view it as a negative experience now…

But if it’s just something he enjoys and it’s not about dominance, then I don’t think it has to be seen as degrading. In a relationship if you’re willing to try things that are out of your comfort zone when you’re with someone you really trust I think that can deepen your bond with them. That being said if he’s trying to force you into it and doesn’t respect your boundaries this obviously isn’t going to make you trust him, which isn’t going to do much for your bond… So I guess I’m just trying to say you shouldn’t think that him wanting to do this with you means he thinks less of you, but he should still respect your boundaries and that is a whole other issue…

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posted June 15, 2012 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gem-Gurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:

*jammed* this is an exaggeration. if you are jamming anything even up a vagina then I say dont do it.

I really dont think jammed is an exaggeration talking bout anal. Its just un-natural thats all. If you want to do it, by all means go ahead.

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posted June 15, 2012 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gem-Gurl:
I really dont think jammed is an exaggeration talking bout anal. Its just un-natural thats all. If you want to do it, by all means go ahead.


I can see where you are coming from if you have never done it. But from experience you can get the anus to be very relaxed and open. There is no jamming involved.

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posted June 15, 2012 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 15, 2012 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Butterfly, I don't know why you're so forceful about your opinion, but yes I tried it once and it caused me a severe damage and bleeding, and she has to be comfortable first for the anus to open, now what if she's not accepting the idea in the first place ? as Gem-Gurl said , it's against nature.
And as I said before there are tons of natural positions that provide a tight penetration , so what's the point of anal after all ?!

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posted June 15, 2012 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the man cared at all about you, he would respect your choice and not push the issue. And he certainly wouldnt act like a two year old who can't get his way when you say no thank you, simply because he wants to live out some fantasy of his. He wouldnt want to force, con or manipulate you into doing something you are not comfortable with simply for his own pleasure. Tell him not to be so limited and lack imagination. There are plenty of other things you can do , that you will both enjoy if you both want some variety or to try something new.

It's also a bit scary that he mentioned getting you drunk and loosening you up to get his way. Maybe he was testing the waters to see if you'd go along with that. He doesnt sound like he has much respect for women in general. It sounds like you like him and want to please him and he probably knows that and is going to try to take advantage of it. Rather than respect your wishes.

Hopefully he shapes up real quick and doesnt end up hurting you more before you see even more of what may be his true colors.

Stand your ground and don't put up with a man who acts like a baby when he doesnt get his way.

Best of luck.

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ail221
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posted June 15, 2012 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe this topic should go in sweet peas.....
But what do you define as natural? From my understanding sex is sex there is no right or wrong position wise. Everyone has varying degrees of their sexuality and preference towards sex. The main issue is her boyfriend not respecting her preference and trying to coercive her into something she'd not comfortable with.

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posted June 15, 2012 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would also tell him that you have asked numerous female friends their opinion and it's been almost unanimous that they don't "love it". So he can stfu with that one.

Ask him if you look like a porn star to him.

Are you simply a plaything for him to grant his sexual desires, or does he want more? If he does, make him prove it and treat you and your wishes with some respect.

I say, if he doesnt wake up and smell the coffee soon, dump his @ss.

You have to be firm and not let people control you or try to push your boundaries. Don't waver a bit, or else he's not going to let up.

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posted June 15, 2012 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyways back to astrology... everyone is blaming Gemini, but I was like "VIRGO" as soon as you said that's where his Mars was in. Virgo is very, very good at appearing "holy" on the surface and innocent like a lamb, but they are into some KINK. They are so controlled in their self-expression that I think they enjoy doing that to others in secret.

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posted June 15, 2012 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And refuse to let him try to make you feel bad IN ANY WAY about your decision, or that you are not kinky enough or whatever. If anything, he should be feeling like an @hole for pushing the issue.

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posted June 15, 2012 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Anyways back to astrology... everyone is blaming Gemini, but I was like "VIRGO" as soon as you said that's where his Mars was in. Virgo is very, very good at appearing "holy" on the surface and innocent like a lamb, but they are into some KINK. They are so controlled in their self-expression that I think they enjoy doing that to others in secret.

I agree. I had a ex who was a triple Virgo: virgo moon, sun and mars. He was very clean cut until you really
got to know him. I mean piercings in certain places, bondage, fem dom, double ummm you get the picture.

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posted June 15, 2012 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Libreo:
I asked him this afternoon if he knows what that feels like and he screwed his nose up and said "no way, I'm a guy, I just know that girls love it".

That is insanely juvenile and rude of him, honestly. And would be a bit of a red flag for me that he's incapable of empathizing with your refusal as a women and just throwing you under a delusional lump of "everyone else loves it!"

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posted June 15, 2012 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WHOA I didn't even read the read of the thread before I made that comment - yeah girl, his sexual aggression and manipulation is extremely, extremely disturbing and may only get worse. I don't know how old this guy is, but if he's 35+ and he's still spouting off very weird ideas about what women love during sex and GUILTING you into obeying him, please just get out of that relationship while you still can.

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posted June 15, 2012 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
This is very silly asking a man how he would feel. Mainly because a straight male is not used to getting things *inserted* inside him..thats more of a women's experience ie regular sex


I have to disagree because men have a prostrate that makes it much more enjoyable to them than women (there are ways for women to enjoy it as well but it takes details that I'm not sure I should share here), and some men are very eager for a finger at least while doing the deed as it increases the power of the experience for them several times over. Plus, men seem much more comfortable with the subject matter than women.

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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
Seriously, people its just Anal Sex. Yes, there are some needed precautions but its not the big bad wolf we are talking about

No, we're (or at least I'm) talking about boundaries. I personally don't have any problem with the act as long as certain precautions are taken but others do, and to pressure someone continuously and even give the impression that he may use alcohol (which could lead to more drugs) to essentially FORCE her to do it is something I would never tolerate (he acts immature in general as well).

I personally can't be tied up or restrained. I could bind others in sex if they wish it, but I could never allow myself to be restrained (probably due to past trauma). I don't see anything wrong with the game itself for OTHER people who don't have issues with it but if someone got me drunk to tie me up, or even just endlessly pressure me for it when I've made it clear how unacceptable that is for me, then that person would have no place in my life. Not because that person enjoys tying up a partner but because that person could not respect my boundary or have any respect for me and my feelings and that utter disregard for me and violation of my boundaries and sense of trust & safety would be intolerable.

Likewise, I'd respect my partner's boundaries, no matter how silly it may seem to be (and I would not treat it as silly, just a quirk)...and if either of us could not then it's a deal breaker.

It's not about prudery, it's about trust and respect.

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posted June 15, 2012 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I read, he didnt say he was going to get her drunk. If he really was going to get her drunk, he would not have told her first. But, I wasnt there so its hard to say how he said it.

As far as boundaries, I am not sure how adamant Libero is about not trying it. If you are so adamant then why even post on a forum? Its almost like she is uncertain or can be persuaded.

Also, I am just adding a different opinion. Its not me being pushy, everyone else can add their two cents.

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posted June 15, 2012 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Butterfly, I don't know why you're so forceful about your opinion, but yes I tried it once and it caused me a severe damage and bleeding, and she has to be comfortable first for the anus to open, now what if she's not accepting the idea in the first place ? as Gem-Gurl said , it's against nature.
And as I said before there are tons of natural positions that provide a tight penetration , so what's the point of anal after all ?!

Im really not trying to be pushy, but for other people who might be reading this, theres two sides to this scenario. Okay, bleeding is a big no. You have to know what you are doing.

You tried it *once* and had a bad experience. I had a bad experience but didnt let it stop from finally taking the proper steps. One of which is being relaxed/comfortable. That actually brings a really good point...

She will not enjoy it if she is uncomfortable. Period.

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posted June 15, 2012 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Butterfly, I don't know why you're so forceful about your opinion, but yes I tried it once and it caused me a severe damage and bleeding, and she has to be comfortable first for the anus to open, now what if she's not accepting the idea in the first place ? as Gem-Gurl said , it's against nature.
And as I said before there are tons of natural positions that provide a tight penetration , so what's the point of anal after all ?!


Wow, really? I would think that would happen as it is not the right door way, shall we say

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posted June 15, 2012 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tell him to try to impress you with something more creative, because he ain't gonna bum you.

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posted June 15, 2012 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If he really was going to get her drunk, he would not have told her first.

I'm not so sure. I think you just gave him too much credit there. He's seems dumb and desperate enough to have been that stupid.

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posted June 15, 2012 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you are so adamant then why even post on a forum? Its almost like she is uncertain or can be persuaded.

Yeah? She probably is, both. I think she's slightly stunned (confused?) and maybe never had to deal with his type before and is looking for some advice/support from other females. There's nothing wrong with that.

She seems like a sweetheart & certain men can see that coming a mile away.

It's clear she truly likes him too (as he's moved in now) and is questioning herself/what she wants to do now because she wants to make him happy.

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posted June 15, 2012 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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their advice was to get my drunk first so that I'd be relaxed

That sounds like rape, but any ways, I'm sure you can handle yourself, right? Like, I don't feel right about telling you to leave him, because that's a big choice that you'd have to make, so...yeah, if anything dangerous happens, like him trying to FORCE it, then there's trouble...

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posted June 15, 2012 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try it you might like it. me I love it. *blushing* Sorry my sag moon is big skank right now.

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posted June 15, 2012 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to hijack this thread but I guess this brings up some past experiences:

I had a boyfriend who hated blow jobs because he was molested. I being very immature didnt understand the gravity of the situation and kept on doing it. When we broke up he was very bitter about this. Now I realize that I was like a trigger every time I took him in my mouth.

Currently, I am in a complicated relationship with a guy who has a bunch of Pisces. His is very into bondage/being dominant. His wife at the time was "into" it until she changed, and, according to him started making him feel dirty or bad about his desires. This was one of his major reasons for agreeing to file for divorce.

Okay so back to Libero's situation. Think very clearly about what you want. Know what you are getting yourself into.

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