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butterflyxoxxo
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posted June 15, 2012 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:
Try it you might like it. me I love it. *blushing* Sorry my sag moon is big skank right now.

Are sags known to be skanks? I have a sag asc/and mercury

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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:
Try it you might like it. me I love it. *blushing* Sorry my sag moon is big skank right now.

Are sags known to be skanks? I have a sag asc/and mercury

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posted June 15, 2012 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:
Try it you might like it. me I love it. *blushing* Sorry my sag moon is big skank right now.

Are sags known to be skanks? I have a sag asc/and mercury

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posted June 15, 2012 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:
Try it you might like it. me I love it. *blushing* Sorry my sag moon is big skank right now.

Are sags known to be skanks? I have a sag asc/and mercury

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posted June 15, 2012 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joy11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't comment on the astrology part, not having had much experience with these signs, but I'll tell you, my experience with my ex: He was emotionally abusive, and I'm such a "nice" person I didn't see it/name it as abuse until I got out. He has (I think, though of course he didn't get professional advice on this) Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The world was all about him, and he could not empathize with others, except as a show. NPD people know the "script," how to "play" life to make themselves look normal and good in life, but its only in intimate relationships that their true desperate selfishness shows up. I'm not saying your bf has NPD, but there are some similar things here you mentioned that are red flags for me. My ex and I had a couple sexual disagreements, and he couldn't let it go, try it another way, or see it any differently. Pouted the entire 4 years of our marriage. Another issue was high heels. In his opinion, a woman is only pretty if she's wearing heels. I hate heels; they hurt my feet, my legs, make me fall over when I walk, etc. I'm not a heels person, period. What did he give me for Christmas? A pair of 4" shiny red high-heel shoes. When I asked him, "why don't YOU wear heels for a day and see how they make YOU feel?" His response was, "I'm not a woman." !! That shows zero empathy. Everyone around him has to reflect what he wants them to be, God forbid they are THEMSELVES.
All of us cross into narcissism from time to time, but "normal" people can recognize it and adjust themselves back to reality by connecting with the people around them. NPD people can't. All this to say, be careful, and don't get yourself in too deep.

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posted June 15, 2012 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure why I keep coming back to this thread and feel almost...big sisterly towards Libreo and want to protect her. Typical earth sign. Thank god I don't have kids.

Earlier this thread was making me wonder...

what ever happened to good old fashioned sex? or lovemaking, or whatever you prefer to call it? Can't anyone do that very well anymore? Is it a dead art?

Why the need for all kinds of kinkiness, toys, costumes and acrobatics?

Can someone answer me that?

And Libreo, if the guy loves you, his main goal should be to please you, make you comfortable, to love you, respect, honor and care for you. Even over himself.

It's a two way street, you should both want that and work at that for each other. I understand that we don't know the whole story and he might be an okay guy otherwise, but just don't let anyone disrespect or pressure you, please.

And at this point, if you were to cave in, I have a strange feeling that he would lose respect for you and possibly leave you as it seems to be an important goal for him. I don't know.

Wishing you the best with this.

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posted June 15, 2012 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Joy, sorry to hear that. It reminds me of a book called "The Sociopath Next Door". Though I've only read parts of it, i've met a few myself.

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posted June 15, 2012 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by T:
Not sure why I keep coming back to this thread and feel almost...big sisterly towards Libreo and want to protect her. Typical earth sign. Thank god I don't have kids.

Earlier this thread was making me wonder...

what ever happened to good old fashioned sex? or lovemaking, or whatever you prefer to call it? Can't anyone do that very well anymore? Is it a dead art?

Why the need for all kinds of kinkiness, toys, costumes and acrobatics?

Can someone answer me that?

And Libreo, if the guy loves you, his main goal should be to please you, make you comfortable, to love you, respect, honor and care for you. Even over himself.

It's a two way street, you should both want that and work at that for each other. I understand that we don't know the whole story and he might be an okay guy otherwise, but just don't let anyone disrespect or pressure you, please.

And at this point, if you were to cave in, I have a strange feeling that he would lose respect for you and possibly leave you as it seems to be an important goal for him. I don't know.

Wishing you the best with this.


Totally agree, sex should be more of a spiritual connection than a "porn show".

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posted June 15, 2012 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok in all seriousness what is defined as old-fashioned sex or love making? Sex is sex trust me if you research the history of sex; costumes, different sexual positions, bsdm, etc has been going on it just wasn't openly discussed.

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posted June 15, 2012 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by T:
what ever happened to good old fashioned sex? or lovemaking, or whatever you prefer to call it? Can't anyone do that very well anymore? Is it a dead art?

Why the need for all kinds of kinkiness, toys, costumes and acrobatics?


This feels rhetorical so I'll just be brief (and speak in general terms): going by what I've heard & experienced I think most people are pretty meat & potatoes but they like to spice things up sometimes. It's like making a big feast instead of a the same meal one is used to everyday, or indulging in a little cheesecake once in awhile.

Of course some people love their cheesecake so much they want it everyday, in which case it's best if they live with a fellow cheesecake lover or someone very understanding.

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posted June 15, 2012 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 15, 2012 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Libreo:
He's being very aggresive now. We had a talk last night and he was being very sincere and sweet and said the most moving things that he's never said before. Then I said that I didn't want to do it and his tone changed. Later on sure enough he tried to do it again and I said no and he became really grumpy and short with me. I DID suggest he try shoving something up there just to experience what he was asking me to do and he got angry and said I'm not a p**fter", and I said "well neither am I! I'm a girl, you obviously think that it's only something that gay men do so why are you asking me to do it? Do you think it would hurt you?" He told me "girls and guys do it all the time and it's way better than the other way" so I said "well I don't know what wer'e going to do now because now I know how you really feel about the other way". Iv'e never seen this side of him before, it obviously means a lot to him that I comply with his wishes. And I don't actually know what wer'e going to do now. Sorry I know we've veered off the subject of astrology. I was in a very happy loving relationship a few days ago.

This is not good. You need to get ready to kick him out. Personally I have nothing against what he's asking you to do but I have major issues that he's reacted in the way that he has.

It's classic abusive behaviour. A major red flag. He isn't respecting your boundaries. He's not respecting that it's your body.

The fact he's been discussing it at work? WTF? Does he get a prize if he manages to complete the mission or what? Have they all made a bet to see who can do it first?

I'll be honest with you ~ I don't know why the suggestion of an*l has provoked such shock and horror, plenty of people do engage in it BUT and it's a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE but, if someone doesn't want to do it ~ that should be the end of the matter. It's a personal choice. Being emotional or mentally coerced is wrong.

From what you've written above, I'd say he IS emotionally abusive and you need to take more notice of how he reacts when he doesn't get his own way in other matters...such as meal times, going out etc

What you've said above ~ would have the alarm bells ringing in my head.

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posted June 15, 2012 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gem-Gurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg... all this blabbing... he isnt respecting you. Its only gonna get worse. Im sorry doll but he needs to go. None of the way he is treating you is OK. At this point its almost not about the sex. What will he not respect your opinions on next? I agree with whoever said that hes feeling comfy now that hes moved in. Showing his truer self. Now that he thinks he has you.

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posted June 15, 2012 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Omg... all this blabbing... he isnt respecting you. Its only gonna get worse. Im sorry doll but he needs to go. None of the way he is treating you is OK. At this point its almost not about the sex. What will he not respect your opinions on next? I agree with whoever said that hes feeling comfy now that hes moved in. Showing his truer self. Now that he thinks he has you.


This is my opinion--word for word. It gets worse, not better, if it is an abusive situation.

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posted June 15, 2012 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was all resolved yesterdaay, he left work at 1pm because he coudn't wait any longer to talk to me and sort everything out, he came home, it was heaven, we were so close we had a long talk and he wrote on fb that he has the best girl he could ever ask for. Then last night he went out with his mates for his birthday, came home at 2.30am with a bunch of people I don't know, my child was sleeping in her bed and they proceeded to have a party on the back patio, I came out and asked him to ask them to leave and informed him that our home is not a place to bring strangers at 3am, there are children here, the people left and he went NUTS! Punching walls, throwing things, kicking things, grabbed his car keys and said he was leaving, so I had to try to wrestle with him toget them out of his hands, he started yelling, I went into my daughter to check she wasn't scared and she offered to let me sleep in there with her, I couldn't go tobed and leave him to destroy my home and all of my things, so I tried to pull him into the bedroom. Eventually he fell asleep. This morning I informed him about what happened last night, but the way he sees it, something must have set him off to make him act that way. Implying that it was my fault. Don't know what to do now. It's just getting worse. This guy obviously has issues I was never aware of. I really wish I knew his TOB.

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posted June 15, 2012 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joy11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Libreo:
It was all resolved yesterdaay, he left work at 1pm because he coudn't wait any longer to talk to me and sort everything out, he came home, it was heaven, we were so close we had a long talk and he wrote on fb that he has the best girl he could ever ask for. Then last night he went out with his mates for his birthday, came home at 2.30am with a bunch of people I don't know, my child was sleeping in her bed and they proceeded to have a party on the back patio, I came out and asked him to ask them to leave and informed him that our home is not a place to bring strangers at 3am, there are children here, the people left and he went NUTS! Punching walls, throwing things, kicking things, grabbed his car keys and said he was leaving, so I had to try to wrestle with him toget them out of his hands, he started yelling, I went into my daughter to check she wasn't scared and she offered to let me sleep in there with her, I couldn't go tobed and leave him to destroy my home and all of my things, so I tried to pull him into the bedroom. Eventually he fell asleep. This morning I informed him about what happened last night, but the way he sees it, something must have set him off to make him act that way. Implying that it was my fault. Don't know what to do now. It's just getting worse. This guy obviously has issues I was never aware of. I really wish I knew his TOB.

You don't need to know his time of birth.
You don't need to know anything else about him, except that he is dangerous, and needs to be out of your life. This is not mature behavior; this is not normal. There is something wrong.
For the sake of your beautiful daughter and your beautiful self, kick him out. I know it's hard... but do it. Take pics of any damage he made, in case you ever need to testify against him or anything like that (God forbid), and make IMMEDIATE arrangements to get him out of your home.
Don't feel sorry for him; turn off that (otherwise lovely) empathetic Pisces side of you; mark your boundaries and stick to them. You deserve better, and so does your daughter!

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posted June 15, 2012 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw Libreo

So, much i want to say to you (and reply to a couple other posters) but I'm too tired right now.

I agree with what Joy said.

You need to protect yourself and daughter right now. This guy is a loser and sounds like a violent addict. Please do what you have to do to get him out of your life asap. He's a loser. You don't need a boy (he's not a man) in your life like that right now -- or ever!

Hugs girl. Strength and love to you.

Please give him the boot and save yourself a lot of drama and inconvienince and move on and have a happy life without him.

More tomorrow.

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posted June 15, 2012 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And don't even pay any attention to astrology in this case. Just get him out of your life. This is more than astrology could explain or fix.

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posted June 15, 2012 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
see --- true colors. what more do you want to see? dump his a**
read all you can about how to spot an abusive man.
don't fall for it ever again! (i've been there) that's why i feel so strongly about this...

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posted June 15, 2012 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joy11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This article really helped me in the aftermath of the abusive relationship. It gave voice to my heart: http://narcissism-support.blogspot.com/2009/01/soul-with-no-footprints.html

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Originally posted by Joy11:
You don't need to know his time of birth.
You don't need to know anything else about him, except that he is dangerous, and needs to be out of your life. This is not mature behavior; this is not normal. There is something wrong.
For the sake of your beautiful daughter and your beautiful self, kick him out. I know it's hard... but do it. Take pics of any damage he made, in case you ever need to testify against him or anything like that (God forbid), and make IMMEDIATE arrangements to get him out of your home.
Don't feel sorry for him; turn off that (otherwise lovely) empathetic Pisces side of you; mark your boundaries and stick to them. You deserve better, and so does your daughter!


Amen sistah!! Unless your a guy, then its akward on my part, calling you sistah.... ( -.-)

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Amen sistah!! Unless your a guy, then its akward on my part, calling you sistah.... ( -.-)

No worries! I'm a sistah! One who's "been there, done that," and won't ever put up with abuse again.

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posted June 16, 2012 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry Libreo. Not cool at all I agree with everyone that at that point there's no questioning whether he should leave or not, he's shown his true colors....

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I'm sorry but how can you NOT know what to do now?

You need to tell someone you see in everyday life NOW

You need to pack his bags and tell him OUT.

Don't accept any excuses. It's his problem if he has to sleep on a park bench.

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posted June 16, 2012 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It was all resolved yesterdaay, he left work at 1pm because he coudn't wait any longer to talk to me and sort everything out, he came home, it was heaven, we were so close we had a long talk and he wrote on fb that he has the best girl he could ever ask for. Then last night he went out with his mates for his birthday, came home at 2.30am with a bunch of people I don't know, my child was sleeping in her bed and they proceeded to have a party on the back patio, I came out and asked him to ask them to leave and informed him that our home is not a place to bring strangers at 3am, there are children here, the people left and he went NUTS! Punching walls, throwing things, kicking things, grabbed his car keys and said he was leaving, so I had to try to wrestle with him toget them out of his hands, he started yelling, I went into my daughter to check she wasn't scared and she offered to let me sleep in there with her, I couldn't go tobed and leave him to destroy my home and all of my things, so I tried to pull him into the bedroom. Eventually he fell asleep. This morning I informed him about what happened last night, but the way he sees it, something must have set him off to make him act that way. Implying that it was my fault. Don't know what to do now. It's just getting worse. This guy obviously has issues I was never aware of. I really wish I knew his TOB.


DON'T SIT AROUND WAITING TO FIND OUT...THIS GUY HAS ISSUES GET YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTER OUT OF THAT SITUATION NOW!!!

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