posted March 27, 2013 09:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Care to renounce your skin color and age while you are at it?

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posted March 27, 2013 12:48 PM            

I understand that at times there is necessity to have support group where people feel good about themselves and take a break from pretending they are not or seeing your own limitations.

I am afraid Faith I am not sure if other signs completely understand the power of herd which sheep understands.

In a traditional way in what people expect they might not think Capricorns are sensitive.Agreed Capricorn might be sensitive by this survey but

"How do you show your sentiments and how do you want others to show you sentiments?"

I earlier used to get irritated that there always had to be proof of something and idea was just not enough but now I feel it is easier that if you do have proof then it isn't very difficult to convince people,eh?
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Do Caps go through period of intense ambition (dream) where they are asking every one to be productive and intense limitation (fear) where they are asking everyone to be cautious?
How do you want somebody to react to that as it is another aspect very confusing to me?

What is more confusing is that at times there would be an idea and initially Caps would completely disagree to it and even show distaste about it but after that they would incorporate it to be theirs without even thinking and without giving proper credit. How do you bring somebody so over pompous and over zealous to realize that they are being stupid? If others stupidity irritates you, your stupidity irritates others as well.

posted March 27, 2013 12:56 PM            

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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
4lifephrases,

I try to be as fair as they come. I grew up Christian, and kind of grew disillusioned with it when I realized that Christians don't really follow Christ. His example was to hang out and love the sinners. He gave two commandments, and the second was to love everyone as he did. I still like to think that I'm trying to do that. I don't know how objective I am about how I'm doing. There are a lot of annoying traits out there, and sometimes it seems like I can't handle the stupidity of some people. But my personal sense of justice is tied to my planets in Libra and Sagittarius. I've got Pluto and Uranus in Libra, and Neptune, Venus, and Mercury in Sag. That's half of my planets.

I've got to get to bed. It's way past my bedtime. I'll answer the rest tomorrow.

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posted March 27, 2013 01:15 PM            

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6. How do you show your feminine energy?
Do you feel apologetic about showing your feminine energy?

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Lots of ways I think. I know how to dress, and to match my clothing (very Earth sign in general; throughout my life people have thought I was gay due to knowing how to dress). I'm quiet (I don't go out of my way to communicate like masculine signs are prone to). I'm conservative in action (not political philosophy). There's no allure in appearing threatening. I don't follow sports except hockey, and even with hockey I'm not that into it (I don't read the sports section of the newspaper for instance). If there's ever a rowdy group of guys, you won't generally find me to be in on the action (not interested). I don't generally try to set agendas. I don't jump to act as leader.
I don't feel very apologetic about showing my feminine energy. I exist. I don't try to be a nuisance.

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7. Do you find social relationships difficult ? Any internal reasons apart from not having enough time or thinking they are unimportant, while you are busy chasing your ambitions?

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posted March 27, 2013 01:30 PM            

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As for Forgiveness I had read that Jesus didn't say I forgive you and you can go on sinning. He said "Sin no more"

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posted March 27, 2013 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:

I didn't ask that woman to label me, so I was just double checking if she had done this without my permission, that's really all.

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"permission to label"

posted March 27, 2013 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

"permission to label"

Caps do take ourselves too seriously sometimes.

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oh yeah. for example they create self-glorification threads on this board (were tons a while ago), whilst no one has seen Cancers, Taureans, Pisces or even Leos do this

and it is my choice what I want to be. my sun is weak so whatever. i have been squeezing Capricorn out of me and I will keep doing this. If I say my Sun has nothing to do with my personality, it doesn't.

posted March 27, 2013 05:55 PM            

its nice to see someone on this forum with a similar chart and born close to date only from the other side of the globe.
you have some excellent aspects going on there such as mercury conjunct jupiter or jupiter conjunct neptune and ofcourse mars conjunct pluto!

posted March 27, 2013 07:13 PM            

1. Mars
2. Pluto
3. Moon
4. Jupiter
5. Saturn
6. Mercury
7. Sun
8. Neptune
9. Venus
10.Uranus

Dominant signs;

1. Scorpio
2. Saggitarius
3. Aries
4. Gemini
5. Capricorn
6. Cancer
7. Pisces
8. Aquarius
9. Taurus
10.Virgo
11.Leo
12.Libra

According to Color Horoscope;

Mercury 16.8
Pluto 15.2
Jupiter 13.4
Saturn 11.9
Moon 9.5
Mars 9.3
Vesta 6.7
Neptune 5.4
Uranus 4.4
Chiron 3.4
Venus 2.6
Sun 1.5

posted March 27, 2013 08:35 PM            

You must enjoy being so far above all the average, self-glorifying Capricorns.

@PC

What a nice surprise to find someone is curious about me.

I'm a singleton sun; I have no other Cap or earth sign planets. But according to some astrologers, my sun's mutual reception with Leo Saturn counts as a conjunction. I have no opinion, because I have no expertise.

Your placements are interesting. You seem non-combative, so the Mars-Pluto at the forefront is a surprise.

Pullen ranks me as more Virgo than Capricorn, which is astonishing, since I have no planets in Virgo. Apparently my sun's placement in the 6H matters more in that program than my sun sign.

I disagree that I am more Virgo than Cap.

All things considered, I can't put much stock in Pullen, and somewhat resent the mess those charts have made of things (where you have people declaring themselves to be a sign other than their sun sign, much to the confusion of others.)

Though I do like the Jupiter/Sag dominance it ascribes to me.

posted March 27, 2013 08:46 PM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
oh yeah. for example they create self-glorification threads on this board (were tons a while ago), whilst no one has seen Cancers, Taureans, Pisces or even Leos do this

and it is my choice what I want to be. my sun is weak so whatever. i have been squeezing Capricorn out of me and I will keep doing this. If I say my Sun has nothing to do with my personality, it doesn't.

I once created a thread SaturnineMoth hijacked. I basically asked an anti-Saturn question. So there she came round and posted a bedsheet about the awesomeness of Capricorn and Saturn, pretty silly, no?

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Sorry, kid... you mean to say you are still hung up about this one...?

does natal Venus square Saturn have to mean older partners?

Gee - Did you ever stop to think that I had never corresponded with you here before, or maybe never knew your hatred of all things "old" and "stuffy" like the big, nasty, ugly goats and their planetary ruler symbolize to you? And that, hey, maybe this person is just trying to be helpful, you know... like everyone else on these boards and in that thread were trying to be at that time...? Did you count how many posts I made there... Let me see... 2. one as a genuine response to your topic - and one to apologize for whatever absurd transgression I had unwittingly made... (so what did I hijack exactly?)

You dear, got your knickers in a twist because of the author of the article... I had no idea of your stern hatred for these things. I do not care enough to argue with you over anything so petty as sharing a resource that addresses the exact topic you were seeking assistance with. So, you want to carry a grudge against the ugly goat people... go right ahead, but keep me the hell out of your childish, antagonistic, self-loathing, 10th sign bash fest. And, I will gladly stay out of your threads. Which I have been doing since that day anyway.

If you are going to come into any other topic - that addresses issues you so detest... you know full well that other people will be there who don't share that same sad sentiment, and surely, I may possibly be one of them.

I did not "label" you. I don't care to label anyone... I said that there are all different "types" of Capricorn Sun present in this thread (an casual observation on personified characteristics between two objects using figurative language)... I did not "label" any one person, anything. So, once again, you got your panties in a twist over nothing. And, your "grudge" seems to make you target me in particular... ~you want to escape what you are, than you can start by maybe not emulating the very thing that you say you hate about Capricorns that every other unfortunate article attributes to this sign... like that egocentric, elitism, and rejection of others whom you feel superior to. (Among many other negative "dark Capricorn" traits) Oh, dear- you didn't know those were all traits attributed to this sign... well, guess you need to do some more reading. Maybe someone with a little more patience for your shenanigans will do you the honor of sharing some links... But, maybe warn them of all the authors who you discredit for disagreeing with your sentiments and ideals, lest they earn your spiteful wrath as well!

As for other signs and this "glorification" business -

I reckon that means you haven't been on board for the many topics posted by our own Piscean Adonis, or our dearest former, long time, member sand. You know he was here for years right... proudly narcissistic, and made nearly every post somehow about himself and his placements, and often only seeking that "glorification"... likewise, Adonis proudly has done the same... and recently so even... I won't trouble you to look for them (especially that means admitting to being wrong, and that others out there are proud of their placements too and speaking out about it, which disagrees with your "sentiments" and you don't like that, or to be wrong), but they're there... I'm pretty certain anyone active on this board enough will vouch that much.

I mean, golly gee - a person of a sign posting about their sign... on an astrology forum... Oh, no they didn't!

Every single day someone posts about their sign and placements, every day someone asks for validation of their good or bad qualities somewhere on these top 5 forums. And, you are the only one here to make a big deal about it.... hmmmm... one day when you are feeling more introspective, go through a few pages in each of them and count the "glorifying" posts and threads by members present and past... instead of basing your entire argument on what you see right before you right now that annoys the p!ss out of you alone. You know that eyesore... "ugh, another Capricorn... disgusting." - right? So, of course you see that one...

And, one day, when you are grown up and not so bitter, maybe you'll think back at how spiteful your own condemning words were to some of those people for things they couldn't change, and didn't need to. Remember the people here are seeking acceptance...you are seeking to reject yourself for what you were born, and while I understand your dilemma, I do not understand your hatred.

And, by the way... some people here believe in a type of chart that is called a progression chart. In this chart you see how far you have come from where you were when you were born, while you cannot change your natal self, you can develop individually by order of progression. Energy does not cease - it changes form - the planets energy does not cease - it changes form - even astrology utilizes this principle. Since you want to embrace other calculation methods to disprove your Caprihood - might be worth looking into this one.

If we all used those other calculation methods... almost none of us would be "Capricorn" - so whatever you're hating us for- is rather arbitrary and largely unfounded by that thinking. I hope you find peace with yourself one day. Sincerely so.

You hate me, than you hate Sagittarius, Jupiter, and Mercury and Lunar - not Saturn/Capricorn (by calculations)- and Aquarius, Gemini, Libra (by progression).

Good luck.

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instead of making two posts -

PC
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Faith~

<3

I kinda injured my right wrist last evening... typing = excruciating. lol
I'll be back after some recuperating. All that Mercury - Geminine, lack of brevity, Virgoan OCD, takes so long to type, that's the most frustrating thing about it... pain is okay - but... arrrrgh~ typing slow!

tc~ ^^

posted March 28, 2013 12:43 AM            

well you say I do it out of self-loathing but well I'm gonna say this is wrong. Now what?

As for that loser late bloomers text you seem to remember still - it is harmful in more than one way to whoever reads it. That old woman should have written about her experience without being negative about the aspect in general. And all that we, we, we - I'm sorry, you but not us.

And oh my god, you are attributing too much importance to your person if you think I hate you. Just your syntax and punctuation are sickening.

And you said you read "everyone's answers" and "we are all so different". That includes me, whatever you say. I just said I didn't want to be included - nothing illegitimate.

and I know about progressed charts, no need to say I'm backward or anything.

posted March 28, 2013 09:18 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
And oh my god, you are attributing too much importance to your person if you think I hate you. Just your syntax and punctuation are sickening.

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Can you possibly be more ridiculous?

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Originally posted by andstuff:
And you said you read "everyone's answers" and "we are all so different". That includes me, whatever you say. I just said I didn't want to be included - nothing illegitimate.

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Please delete your answers then, as I intend to make further comments that generalize about all respondents, ie, "Looks like we are all hard workers at least sometimes."

And I don't want to derail this thread when you throw a prima donna fit about that, too.

Thanks.

posted March 28, 2013 10:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Please delete your answers then, as I intend to make further comments that generalize about all respondents, ie, "Looks like we are all hard workers at least sometimes."

And I don't want to derail this thread when you throw a prima donna fit about that, too.

Thanks.

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well, my sun is in Capricorn, so well I suppose my answers can be used. Please, Faith, I have no issues with yourself or with anyone, just with that weird woman who typed a bloody bedsheet with a broken wrist telling me i'm an idiot What sort of a fit was that? Seconda donna? Terzia donna?

posted March 28, 2013 12:05 PM            

I called you a prima donna because it appears you are insisting that others respect your extremely peculiar way of defining yourself: not as a Cap sun (though you are one), not as a goat, but as....I dare not offer a suggestion for fear of incurring your wrath.

The wrath itself is kind of funny, but having this thread derailed constantly detracts from it being a good read.

posted March 28, 2013 12:18 PM            

1. What is your opinion of typical descriptions of the Capricorn personality? Does it describe you well?

Yes, in the sense that I’m a levelheaded and responsible type of person, and sometimes give of the impression of being aloof… Though I’m certainly not cold or ruthless, as some believe Capricorns to be. I’ve got my Moon in Cancer, and sometimes I feel it makes me waaay too sensitive.

I think there are evolved people and unevolved people of every sign. There might actually be some Caps out there who are ruthless, cold hearted users… But then there are so many others who are so loyal and dedicated, and who have such amazing integrity. I just depends on who you happen to cross paths with.

2. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being "extremely important," how important do you think regular schooling is?

I actually think a good education is very important for building a good future, so I’d say ‘9’.

3. Did you learn about what you were really interested in, in school?

When I was in school I often found the subject matter in all my classes interesting… Science, literature, social issues, history, even certain parts of mathematics. What I didn’t enjoy was the grueling preparation for examinations, and taking examinations. I studied for my exams and always did reasonably well, but found the pressure of exams stressful. The learning part could be really fun though. I’ve got my Asc, Mercury and Venus all in Sagittarius and I think this has contributed to my passion for learning.

4. In your opinion, do Capricorns tend to be very interested in metaphysical studies?

I can’t speak for other Capricorns, but I certainly have always been very interested in such things.

5. If you answered "yes" above, do you think our interest in metaphysics is downplayed or ignored in most astrology books?

I strongly suspect ‘yes‘.

6. Are you a hard worker?

Yes, and once I decide on a goal I’m very systematic and driven about it.

7. Be honest...do you use people to get ahead in life? If so, how? If not, does it annoy you to be accused of using people?

Not really. Everybody has to depend on others to at least some extent, in some way, as they go through life… This is not quite the same thing as making a conscious decision to take advantage of someone else, to their detriment, in a cold and ruthless sort of way. I don’t condone this type of behavior.

8. Are you consistently there for your loved ones, even when you have to make great sacrifices to do so?

I’ve traveled too much, and lived in too many places to be consistently ‘there’ for my family, although I have a great deal of love and respect for them. When I get married I plan to be consistently there for my husband, who presumably will be living in the same location as me.

9. In your opinion, is Capricorn more or less artistic than other signs?

I think a lot of Capricorns are surprisingly creative and artistic. To be fair I think being artistic is such an individual natal chart by natal chart type of thing, that it’s really impossible to say if in general Caps are more or less artistic then other Sun signs.

10. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the most sentimental, how sentimental are you?

Probably a good, sound, healthy 5.

11. What is the one thing about Capricorns that you wish other people would realize?

A lot of Caps tend to be reserved, or intimidatingly stand offish. Really, most of them are a lot nicer and more friendly then people realize once you talk to them… Not to mention that a lot of Caps are surprisingly interesting, intellectual, or artistic, once you get to know them. At lot of them have really cool hobbies and interests.

Most Capricorns are driven, goal-setters who care about security. This is a good thing, and most Caps will express their need for security and achievement in a healthy way. It’s only the occasional weird sociopath (every sign has them) who’ll fit’s the ‘Ebenezer Scrooge’, or ’Ice Queen/ Ice Man’ stereotypes. I really admire the Capricorn ability to turn dreams and aspirations into reality.

posted March 28, 2013 12:30 PM            

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You know? So enough of this.

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And I care because?... I don't like this type of language and rhetoric, so if you want me to do you a favour have the consideration to ask for it

posted March 28, 2013 01:50 PM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
Just because you "love Mothy" doesn't mean all the blame should be put on someone you don't "love".

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posted March 28, 2013 01:51 PM            

Looking forward to reading your replies when I get a bit more time.

posted March 28, 2013 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
If you were surprised by the length of Mothy's rebuke, you haven't paid enough attention to her to form an educated opinion, which makes your hostility towards her all the more baffling.

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posted March 28, 2013 04:05 PM            

Fairly well, but I do have a heavy Cappy influence (not just Sun Sign).

2. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being "extremely important," how important do you think regular schooling is?

A big fat 10 for college. High school, not really so much.

3. Did you learn about what you were really interested in, in school?

Negative. But college is about more than just learning a trade. It's about learning how to synthesize information and how to think.

4. In your opinion, do Capricorns tend to be very interested in metaphysical studies?

Yeppers!

5. If you answered "yes" above, do you think our interest in metaphysics is downplayed or ignored in most astrology books?

Indeed!

6. Are you a hard worker?

Nope. I'm a smart worker.

7. Be honest...do you use people to get ahead in life? If so, how? If not, does it annoy you to be accused of using people?

We are not users, we're schmoozers. j/k

8. Are you consistently there for your loved ones, even when you have to make great sacrifices to do so?

If you only knew.

9. In your opinion, is Capricorn more or less artistic than other signs?

By far the least artistic in the zodiac...but we can have our moments.

10. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the most sentimental, how sentimental are you?

To the world, zero. To those we trust, a 10.

11. What is the one thing about Capricorns that you wish other people would realize?

That we are superior to you other 11 in every way!

posted March 29, 2013 08:31 AM            

I would love for a few other Caps to answer (goatcat, I'm so cappy, and Msrandorangee where are you?)

And I'm probably forgetting some others.

posted March 29, 2013 10:19 AM            

Answer: i don't like how capricorns are described and i don't fit in with words such as "social climber", "materialistic", "selfish".

2. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being "extremely important," how important do you think regular schooling is?

Ans: schooling is important, but you should have fun.

3. Did you learn about what you were really interested in, in school?

Ans: i wasn't really interested in studies in school. its in college that i study because my subject is interesting.

4. In your opinion, do Capricorns tend to be very interested in metaphysical studies?

Ans: i don't know about other Capricorns but i have always been interested in astrology.

5. If you answered "yes" above, do you think our interest in metaphysics is downplayed or ignored in most astrology books?

Ans: because we have been described as cold and calculative as well as social climber and a realist.

6. Are you a hard worker?

Ans: yes. when i like something i try my best. however, i lose interest quickly

7. Be honest...do you use people to get ahead in life? If so, how? If not, does it annoy you to be accused of using people?

Ans: as much as i like winning, i dont like using people.

8. Are you consistently there for your loved ones, even when you have to make great sacrifices to do so?

Ans: DEFINITELY. i love my family and i am willing to do anything.

9. In your opinion, is Capricorn more or less artistic than other signs?

Ans: i think all signs are artistic in their own way. but yes, as a capricorn i have always been interested in art and i love and admire beauty...

10. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the most sentimental, how sentimental are you?

Ans:4

11. What is the one thing about Capricorns that you wish other people would realize?