posted June 15, 2013 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
It reminds me of this story about Saturn. They say when the Sun God went to see Saturn, he went into an eclipse thus angering Saturn. So he vowed that he will put a damper on the shine of the sun whenever he gets the chance. LOL. Stories

Or may be your Saturn wants to show you his idea of fun

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posted June 15, 2013 01:53 PM            

Here comes instant karma if I don't

posted June 15, 2013 01:59 PM            

I do.

posted June 15, 2013 02:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
^^ Don't you feel like you are a Saturn baby?

I do.

Gosh Saturn and the Sun have a total of 15 aspects in my chart respectively.

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posted June 15, 2013 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
The 10th natural ruler squaring the resident 10th house planet venus.

Some karma that you have to work out I guess may be relating to the 10th house? profession wise?

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posted June 15, 2013 02:23 PM            

i still vote ASC is most important

posted June 15, 2013 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by foxxyxo:

all the people with sun square asc is just **** outttaaaaaa luckkkk

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posted June 15, 2013 02:45 PM            

Both.

posted November 20, 2018 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
The ascending degree is the most important thing in the natal chart because it shows what happened the moment you entered the world. You are correct, it is what you are. If you have a chart with an accurate birth time, you can tell a lot about an individual by focusing on the ascending degree. Also, the planet or luminary that rules the ascending degree also rules the entire chart so yes, very important and telling.

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So a 29” Taurus Rising native ruled by her 1st Decan (Taurus Decan) Taurus Venus placed in the 12th House would not have have the body shape associated with your average Gemini Ascendant, in spite of the entire sign of Gemini being placed in her 1st House AND the rest of her physical appearance/facial bone structure/features matching that of a Gemini Rising native? Your knowledge and expertise sounds like it could help me solve the mystery of her Ascendant’s Decanate - http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/240098.html

posted November 20, 2018 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by tgem:
I am a 1 degree 8 minute cancer rising so moon is my chart ruler. I also have moon and venus in Gemini in the 12th. Interesting that my ASC falls so incredibly close to Gemini as well. Although I came across strongly as a cancer ASC as a child, I and other people would now identify more with the Gemini. My progressed sun is also in Gemini. Now, with my ASC so close to my 12th house and my moon and venus in it, I exude a lot a Pisces qualities as well! My sun is in Taurus and I wouldn't normally say I connect much with that, but since it's an earth singleton in my chart, those qualities get thrown in there pretty visible too.. So I'm really a mixed bag and I've been told I'm very difficult to "figure out."

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How do you approach and behave in romantic relationships having a Gemini Venus placed in the 12th House of Pisces? How is your Venus aspected? What signs are in your 5th & 7th House? Do you have any activate planets placed in them? If so, do you feel that they (as well your Cancer Rising) override or cancel-out the usual (sometimes negative) depictions of a 12th House Venus native’s love style? Do you feel heavily Piscean at times having more than one 12th House placements?

posted November 20, 2018 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Ascendant is much, much more than a mask and I even wonder if it is really that? It covers the cusp of house one, house of Aries the sign of self which rules this house traditionally. This is why I think it is the most important part of the chart. Furthermore, sun is always exalted in house one no matter what is on the cusp so it has a special relationship with the ascendant no matter what sign the sun is in.

If you are a double, have more than one planet or luminary in your sun sign, or have sun in Aries or Leo, then the sun becomes very important in your chart. I disagree with the notion the sun is the focal point of every chart.

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Therefore, in spite of an individual being born a Pisces Ascendant native, if they have their 1st House Aries Sun trining Sagittarius Saturn in tight conjunction with the Midheaven, the zenith of the natal chart, at LESS than one degree orb, is it safe to conclude the individual’s overall persona and psyche would be Aries dominant or Saturn dominant?
Would having an Aries Sun placed in the 1st House of Aries completely cancel out the shy, low self-esteem and insecure tendendies typically associated with a Venus Square Saturn native?

posted November 20, 2018 04:29 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

I just noticed your mentioned Celine Dion being Aries sun with Cancer rising and this reminds me of what I typed...the Aries sun will be the focal point because of the exaltation so it WOULD be more obvious than the Cancer rising sign, unless the moon is strongly placed and aspected. Nothing in the chart will diminish the Aries sun except if it is completely buried in house 12, maybe. Then it could have less fire.

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So a girl with a 12th House Aries Sun and 12th House Taurus Venus would be heavily Piscean in character, correct? Or would she be rather Arian if she has both Pisces Moon and Pisces Mercury in very tight conjunction with her Pisces Mars, as well as Mars trine Scorpio Pluto?

posted November 22, 2018 07:04 AM            

The Asc is who you are. The Sun is your ego, the moon is your emotional nature. Venus is the pleasure center, etc.

The Ascendant is who you really are.