posted October 21, 2013 10:35 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I guess I'd call it 'mirroring'. I just called it SOP with my twin. And, at times, other cherished soul connexions.

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posted October 22, 2013 11:01 PM            

Yes, I completely understand how intense and scary it is at times; and yet there's still that deep craving to see them and to let your energies "inter-mingle" again lol.
I do get where you are coming from.

posted October 22, 2013 11:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I was just having a glance at our first meeting chart.

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Wow your meeting chart has me floored LOL
It's so interesting how the aspects happening on that night touched your composite/pr.composite. This shows how that was the perfect and "ripe" time for you to meet

Lately I've developed a big fascination with progressions/transits and the timing of events.

posted October 23, 2013 12:59 AM            

.. it already passed

posted October 23, 2013 02:22 AM            

Yes, I agree. Its fun experimenting with the progressions/transits.

From 2015-2016,

~his Pr. Venus will conjunct my n. NN exact
~his Pr. Venus will sextile his n. Moon/Mars exact.
~his Pr. Pof will be on his n. Venus exact
~his Pr. Vertex will be opposing my n. Mercury exact
~Tr. Neptune will be on his Desc
~Tr. Pluto will be in his 5th, squaring his n. Venus exact.

~my Pr. Venus will be approaching his n. Pluto 2°
~my Pr. Venus will be on my n. Jupiter (5th H ruler), trine my n. Moon/Mars/Saturn (Desc co-ruler)
~my Pr. Mars will square my n. Venus, oppose my Uranus (Desc-ruler)
~my Pr. Pof will be on my n. Neptune and Uranus (Desc-ruler) exact
~Tr. Uranus will be squaring my n. Venus, Neptune and Uranus (Desc-ruler)

posted October 23, 2013 05:06 AM            

EROS~PSYCHE

Synastry:
~ his Eros quincunx her Psyche 0°

Composite:
~ no aspects

Davison:
~ Eros trine Psyche 0°

OSIRIS~ISIS

Synastry:
~ no aspects

Composite:
~ no aspects, but a very wide 6° conjunction (they both have Osiris/Isis in the same signs in their respective natals)

Davison:
~ no aspects, but in the same signs

SIVA/SHANKAR/RUDRA/MAHAKALA~KAALI/PARVATI/TARA

Synastry:
~ her Siva trine his Parvati 3°
~ her Siva trine his Tara 0°
~ her Shankar conjunct his Kaali 2°
~ her Mahakala square his Parvati 0°
~ her Rudra parallel his Kaali
~ his Siva opposite her Tara 4°
~ his Shankar opposite her Parvati 1°
~ his Shankar parallel her Kaali
~ his Mahakala sextile her Kaali 0°
~ his Mahakala quincunx her Parvati 1°

Composite:
~ Siva quincunx Tara 2°

Davison:
~ Siva square Kaali 0°
~ Siva square Parvati 1°
~ Rudra square Tara 2°

PLUTO~PERSEPHONE/PROSERPINA

Synastry:
~ her Pluto quincunx his Proserpina 0°
~ her Pluto contr-parallel his Proserpina

Composite:
~ no aspects

Davison:
~ no aspects

ADONIS~APHRODITE/VENUS/INANNEN/ISHTAR/ASTARTE

Synastry:
~ his Adonis trine her Aphrodite 0°
~ his Adonis parallel her Aphrodite 1°00
~ his Adonis quincunx her Astarte 1°
~ her Adonis parallel his Aphrodite 1°13

Composite:
~ no aspects

Davison:
~ no aspects

ARIADNE~BACCHUS/DIONYSUS

Synastry:
~ his Ariadne quincunx her Bacchus 0°
~ his Ariadne trine her Dionysus 1°

Composite:
~ Ariadne parallel Bacchus

posted October 23, 2013 05:50 AM            

For some reason my Dream Self has made it a habit, to "meet up" with Mr Sag, just at the brink between being asleep and waking up. It is not really dreaming, but of course not real either. I don`t know what it is, and frankly, I stopped trying to figure it out.

Anyway for the last weeks "we" actually have been talking about knights, and especially the knight of the round table. Well, I thought the reason for this is my fondness for them, and for some weird reason I always considered him as some sort of knight. lol Don`t ask me why.
Maybe because of the dream I had before we met in this life. Maybe because the first memory of him (though it might not even be a real memory but some sort of strange fantasy) leads me back to the castle in the hills near where he lives, into my childhood.
Ironically enough after I think 30 years or so I was there again yesterday, just at the foot of the castle, having dinner with my family (and since then I can feel that pulling at my heart strings again , which had been a little more quiet lately, this longing for, I donīt know exactly what).

Anyway, that which really caught me offguard yesterday was that when I came home he finally (he had hinted at a major role he was so proud of getting) published, which musical it would be.

It is going to be "Artus" and he is going to play King Arthur.

This amazed me, really, and of course increased that feeling of something pulling at my heartstrings. or actually somewhre between my solar and including my heartchakra.
The last time it ws that strong, I found myself in a chat with him. lol

But that aside, I dimly remembered something about the asteroids, and it totally completely floored me.

my Guinevere: 10.17 Capricorn
my Spirit: 10.40 Capricorn

(at the time of the musical my progressed ASC will be 9-10 Capricorn, my pr Guinevere 19 Cap, pr Spirit 21 Cap, right on my natal Arthur 21 Cap, which is the very degree of my Sun/Moon-mp and Antivertex, holy crap! )

No, no, THAT is holy crap:
Transiting Spirit on 22 Capricorn!!!!
Transiting Guinevere on 15 Capricorn
Transiting Lancelot on 16.47 Scorpio - my natal Lancelot is on 16.47 SCorpio!!!!!!)

Okay, WHAT is going on then?

Anywhere got distracted, so

my Guinevere: 10.17 Capricorn
my Spirit: 10.40 Capricorn

Mr Sag`s Arthur: 11.41 Capricorn
Mr Sag`s Merlin: 11.17 Capricorn

Mr Law`s Lancelot: 10.32 Cancer!

You got to be kidding me!!!!

Oh funny tidbit, Mr Law`s Guinevere is on 26.14 Scorpio, right now my pr Lancelot is on 26.10 Scorpio - for the time I amg oing to see him on stage at the end of the year, the conjunction will have an orb of 0°02. LOL)

posted October 23, 2013 06:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Indigo and Ceri,

Yes, I completely understand how intense and scary it is at times; and yet there's still that deep craving to see them and to let your energies "inter-mingle" again lol.
I do get where you are coming from.

Its the biggest "soul-cleansing" type of thing you can experience I would say.
It amplifies EVERYTHING,, the good and the bad.
All that toxic/karmic stuff doesn't apply here, which is based on the old paradigm and way of relationships. Whatever this is, its a much higher-form of love, therefore requiring purging and letting go of all that which doesn't serve you in your highest good, and total surrender, so you can become the greatest YOU and teach/guide others by example... That's how I see it.

I still have a lot of inner work to do before I can be ready to meet him (which I know will happen in about 2-3 years), but I'm not sure if I'll even be ready then...
We'll see...

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I agree with you for the most part. However, I do think that there is still Karma at play. Not necessarily toxic, Gosh, I hope not. lol

But if there is nothing more to learn, we wuoldnīt be here anymore.

posted October 23, 2013 06:37 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Yesssssss.... his progressed Venus in an applying conjunction to my lifelong progressed aqua-mars WITHiN 1* !!!!

.. it already passed

Progressions are so soo interesting.

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they are, yes.

posted October 23, 2013 07:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Wow your meeting chart has me floored LOL
It's so interesting how the aspects happening on that night touched your composite/pr.composite. This shows how that was the perfect and "ripe" time for you to meet

Lately I've developed a big fascination with progressions/transits and the timing of events.

I am curious to know, where there any Venus aspects happening in your progressed charts at the time you met? Or aspects from your pr. Venus to your natals and N. Venus to your progressed charts?

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Yes, it was just the right time I guess.

Hmm, Venus progressions?

Well, natally he was having his pr Sun conjunct his n Venus precisely (orb: 0.00 - only valid during the 5 days surrounding the day we met); and his Venus is on the antiscion of my Mars by 1°05

for synastric progressions:

° my n Venus quindecile his pr Juno, which was conjunct my Vertex/Eros/ and Sun/Moon-mp (exact naturally)

my pr Venus was part of a major configuration in my own natal:

pr Venus conjunct pr Mercury exact on 18 Aquarius, conjunct pr Antivertex and natal Moon on 17 Aquarius

my pr Antivertex and natal Moon are quindecile his natal NN
my pr Venus and pr Mercury were quindecile his BML by 1 degree

(this is interesting as Tr Saturn was conjunct his natal NN and pr/natal BML at that time)

° his pr Venus had just enterd 00 Pisces, being conjunct his natal SN on 1 Virgo and opposite his natal BML (it was also quindecile his pr Mars)

° his pr Venus was trine my natal URanus by 1 degree

° his pr Venus also had just separated from my natal BML

° his pr Venus was 2 degrees of applying quindecile to my pr Vertex as well

as for the composite:

we have Psyche conjunct Antivertex on 24 Aquarius exact.

on that night pr composite Venus on 24 Aquarius joined the composite Antivertex

and this was blessed (or damned?) by a triple cojunction of Transiting NN and Chiron on 21 Aquarius and Transiting Neptune on 24 Aquarius

(we kind of can`t get rid of that Transiting Neptune on our pr composite Venus, just nowadays it is in Pisces ).

pr composite Venus was also trine composite Mars on 23 Libra and Adonis on 25 Libra.

Tr Sun was also sesisquare composite Venus and sesisquare composite Pluto, thus activating the Venus-Pluto-square.
It means that Tr Sun was on the Venus/Pluto-mp in the composite.

Tr Mars was quindecile (2 applying) to pr composite Venus.

I think I am going to stop here. lol

EDIT:
I think we are almost done with Neptune though.

Transit Neptune is now at 2 Pisces, our pr composite Venus at 1 Pisces.

posted October 23, 2013 11:42 AM            

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From 2015-2016,

~his Pr. Venus will conjunct my n. NN exact

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The same here lol..
~his Pr. Venus is exactly conjunct my n. NN late June 2015 ; )

.. after that a KITE is waiting for us, his progressed Mars & Sun tie together with my progressed and natal Venus. (+ a stand-alone venus/mars conj. ~ his progr. venus to my natal mars)
The real proven Westran-stuff!

Ow and actually.. when we first met (*the world* at first sight for both) we had a *trans-dimensional* progressed venus/mars conjunction. The exact same progression within 1* also in the HELIO-sky (of which recently the peak passed).

~ ~ Trans-dimensional: An aspect which exists in both the geocentric and heliocentric dimensions ~ ~

posted October 23, 2013 11:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Oh, I almost forgot; here is the asteroid-synastry for the other TF couple:

EROS~PSYCHE

Synastry:
~ his Eros quincunx her Psyche 0°

Composite:
~ no aspects

Davison:
~ Eros trine Psyche 0°

OSIRIS~ISIS

Synastry:
~ no aspects

Composite:
~ no aspects, but a very wide 6° conjunction (they both have Osiris/Isis in the same signs in their respective natals)

Davison:
~ no aspects, but in the same signs

SIVA/SHANKAR/RUDRA/MAHAKALA~KAALI/PARVATI/TARA

Synastry:
~ her Siva trine his Parvati 3°
~ her Siva trine his Tara 0°
~ her Shankar conjunct his Kaali 2°
~ her Mahakala square his Parvati 0°
~ her Rudra parallel his Kaali
~ his Siva opposite her Tara 4°
~ his Shankar opposite her Parvati 1°
~ his Shankar parallel her Kaali
~ his Mahakala sextile her Kaali 0°
~ his Mahakala quincunx her Parvati 1°

Composite:
~ Siva quincunx Tara 2°

Davison:
~ Siva square Kaali 0°
~ Siva square Parvati 1°
~ Rudra square Tara 2°

PLUTO~PERSEPHONE/PROSERPINA

Synastry:
~ her Pluto quincunx his Proserpina 0°
~ her Pluto contr-parallel his Proserpina

Composite:
~ no aspects

Davison:
~ no aspects

ADONIS~APHRODITE/VENUS/INANNEN/ISHTAR/ASTARTE

Synastry:
~ his Adonis trine her Aphrodite 0°
~ his Adonis parallel her Aphrodite 1°00
~ his Adonis quincunx her Astarte 1°
~ her Adonis parallel his Aphrodite 1°13

Composite:
~ no aspects

Davison:
~ no aspects

ARIADNE~BACCHUS/DIONYSUS

Synastry:
~ his Ariadne quincunx her Bacchus 0°
~ his Ariadne trine her Dionysus 1°

Composite:
~ Ariadne parallel Bacchus

Davison:
~ no aspects

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posted October 23, 2013 02:06 PM            

When my Hatter and I met, (you'll get why I call him that) some very odd things were definitely going on above, and everywhere else, frankly.

For one, it was 27 January, at night, a few years ago. The date is indelible, because it's the birthdate of Charles Dodgson - AKA Lewis Carroll.

So, the influences (sans Ascendant and having any real grasp of house-placement) strike me:

The Moon exactly conjunct Lewiscarroll on his Sun in 8 Cancer. Alice, Madhatter, and the NNode all parallel. Destinn on my NNode quindecile the Sun in 8 Aquarius. Eros and Psyche exactly semisextile, but no CPL / PLL, so, a very subtle influence, if any.

Destinn opposite Neptune, exact. Karma on his ASC, and OOB. Pluto tightly parallel the Sun.

Valentine and Lilith exactly conjunct; very likely rising on the Ascendant, just as Moon-Lewiscarroll is almost definitely on the MC. I just don't have an exact time.

Venus opposite Mars. Mercury and Mars contraparallel.
Amor conjunct Chiron parallel Psyche.
Eros exactly semisextile and parallel the Black Moon.

Madhatter sextile the Sun (exact). Alice semisextile Venus, and Mercury, sextile Psyche and square Eros.

This is all interesting, considering how exactly we met.

For one, he was at an imaginary tea-party.

No, I'm not joking. I met the man seated upon the floor, in business casual, aside of two young women head-to-toe in expensive Victoriana regalia.

I almost didn't stop. Almost said nothing. I was, frantically, in fact, looking for my roommate; we'd been preparing to leave when he spotted someone he needed to talk to, and off he'd gone. I was eager to leave, as I hadn't wanted to be there in the first place. I pushed myself on to it, needing to pass out fliers for a podcast I was producing; but I certainly wasn't at my best.

So, I was in midstep when I passed a room familiar to me, and saw a man who looked exactly like a character from one of my major projects, seated next to two young woman attired as if they'd come straight from Victorian England.

Oh, yeah, I stopped. On a dime.

But I didn't have words yet. He'd later tell me that time stopped and a feeling he'd never experienced before came over him, and he was overcome by a sense of reconnexion, though we'd never met before. I recall, at that moment, my mind was curiously silent - and fully locked in on the WTF-factor.

Since I wasn't actively processing any of it (or I'm sure my brain would've melted then and there) I went into my default mode: casting director.

Despite looking everything to the opposite, having literally thrown something together out of my closet that matched - a black ball cap some sponsor had given me (I never wear them, but it disguised my grease-bomb hair) my Mad Tea Party baby-tee (with the quote 'if you don't think, you shouldn't talk' written across it) black jeans, and stiletto boots, I embodied the very essence of my Virgo Ascendant.

'Forgive the intrusion,' I said, unable to hide the twinge of sarcasm in my voice (hey, my Merc is in Scorpio).

'Yes?' He looked up, still seated bone-straight, absolutely perfect posture, hands folded, head high.

In that single word, I felt dizzy. Literally dizzy. I'd never heard it before - outside of my head; the inflection, the richness of tone, the bizarre, 'you're definitely not from around here, are you?' sense it engenders. I pressed on, but remained in the hall.

'What ... are you're doing here?' I laughed, suddenly realising it sounded accusatory before the words were out. I was watching myself; caring how I came across. THAT was strange.

He gave me this look, as if to say, 'you know better than to ask that,' accompanied by a very sly grin, but somehow friendly eyes. His words, however, were, 'why, we're having tea, dear!' Like that, his entire voice, demeanor, everything had changed. Bam. His eyes widened, his grin became a huge, toothy smile, his timbre grew more nasal, and his inflection rose dramatically.

Dear God, was all I could think, to be honest. I just laughed. Looking at him, for some reason, was suddenly very difficult. I wanted to run and hide. ME. Miss Sun-Pluto. Miss All-That-Scorpio. ME! Run! ... and hide! I guess special karma, and some folks, do that to you.

I'm not sure if you've ever had someone 'pull' you to them without saying, or even doing anything. Somehow, his silence held me there. I was going to bolt - instead, I stayed, and acted like an idiot. Stating the obvious. Sure, I knew what was going on. But my brain had ceased proper functioning.

'Now I realise I may be stating the obvious here, but you cannot have a tea party with a distinct lack of, well, tea.' I was going to go on to explain the many other types of parties that may be had in lieu, (yes, I really was) but he laughed; a strong, single, staccato thing, that I forgot what I was saying.

'Not if you're using your imagination.' And he held up something invisible I can only presume was an imaginary teacup, and winked at me.

Something happened then, and I don't know what. Distinctly different from Fate, but with the same sort of bizarre uncharacteristic behaviour and internal screaming. Whatever it was, I couldn't take it.

I politely acknowledged the weirdness and then took back off after my friend in the direction I'd last been told he'd gone.

I didn't get far.

My own internal voice can be VERY loud. 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING?' It was seething. 'Are you insane? HOW can it be more obvious? You know what day it is! Look at what he's wearing! Listen to his voice! The way he speaks! Like the way a Brit does when they're intending an American accent! He's seated on the floor playing pretend with young women dressed in Victorian garb! Having 'tea'! For God's sake, what do you need? Him to say your hair wants cutting? Bust out a pocket-watch? Make some reference to Chopin? IT'S HIM! WHERE ARE YOU GOING?'

Little secret: I used to argue with myself. Publicly. I'd get SO caught up in my head that I'd disconnect from the world around me and only my inner world really existed. Especially as a child. And here, I was just freaking out.

I told myself that 'he' does not exist, thank you; 'he' is a character in a book. 'He' is the product of an overactive collegiate imagination, borne of misery, loneliness and some sort of desperate longing for a companionship the likes of which only exist IN one's imagination. And, thank you very much, but I have FINALLY grown up.

I'm going to be 30 this year. I'm recently engaged. I'm going to be a stepmother. I'm going to have a good 9-to-5 job again. I'm FINALLY acting the part of a bloody adult!

I FINALLY GREW UP! WHAT THE F - IS THIS SH - ?

ALL of -that- was some bizarre cocktail of my college education, my adolescent experiences, and whatever else was lurking about in my brain. It became too messy and too complicated, and I let it go. I HAD to.

HE does not exist. And if he did ... oh, God, it'd rip my life apart. The careful construct I'd built so diligently would prove nothing but a house of cards to be taken down by an overeager child.

I think I got several steps. Nearly past the next room. I turned around.

I knew why I was turning around, though. I knew the ONLY reason why I was turning around.

I stood there in the hallway once more, unable to speak for the first second or two. It seemed longer. He glanced back up at me from where he was still seated. There was no hint of surprise upon his face in the least. That, in turn, surprised ME.

Before he had a chance to say anything -

'Are you an actor?'

He grinned privately to himself before rising, rebuttoning his jacket. His whole demeanor changed - again. He strode to me, slowly, the portrait of confidence, almost Shakespearean. The inflection changed again; his gaze upon me unbroken. I was stock-still, just taking in the emerging spectacle. He offred to me an impromptu modification of V's introduction to Evey from the film 'V for Vendetta', but in relationship to Hollywood, and the actor's struggle. I don't recall a damned bit of it - except for the ending, at which point his inflection, tone, and timbre changed yet again - and he paraphrased a line from the '80s flick 'Ghostbusters', replacing 'god' with 'actor'. ('If someone asks you if you're a god, Ray, you say 'yes!'.' I'd learn he's indeed one of the most working actors in this town, having been on just about everything somewhere for the past 20 years, and it's rather his persistent humility which seems to bar him from proclaiming it.)

As he presented his card to me with a flourish and a bow, saying his name - in the same voice in which he'd spoken the first word of this strange conversation - I suddenly had none. Zero. I simply took it, and his hand once he extended it.

When I found my voice again, I found myself saying, 'I have a role for which you'd be perfect.' ('Grand!' he replied.) I also hadn't revealed that the project wasn't even in production yet. Hell, it hadn't even started. It'd been shelved for the past 2 years, but finding him ... suddenly ... it was all possible again. So much was possible.

I couldn't - and wouldn't - think that far, though. 'So much' would be this show. Then, an audio drama. (I wouldn't have the courage to tackle TV until my last project which I'd undertaken with my twin.) We did some amazing work on that audio drama. I was able to compile the perfect cast over the next few years.

But it all started with him; an imaginary tea-party on Dodgson's birthday, on a night I braved going to Hollywood and lost my friend for just long enough to find ... him.

I've only recently come to the full understanding that it IS him, because THAT is unbelievable. But I can't ignore the signs anymore. I can't fight that. It's incredible, crazy even; so outside of the realm of even being possible, had I not studied quantum physics to where I NOW know it actually IS possible - I'd continue dismissing it right out of hand.

But I can't. It's true. It's him.

And where we go from here ... oh, God, who knows.

I'm supposed to be emailing him, saying that I want to see him sometime this week, since he's said absolutely nothing in response to my email. Clearly, I'm avoiding it by being here ....

My husband insists that he's going to do everything he can in his power to deflect and evade and avoid and refuse and refute, because HE made such a tremendous sacrifice in 'bending The Rules', that now I have to step out of MY comfort zone and do the thing I DO NOT DO. I have to be the one to put myself out there - WAY out there, to the point where I can get even MORE hurt than I already have. I have to not take 'no' for an answer, and not do my usual duck-dodge-and-disappear routine, because he's got that role down pat this time. I have to do something different. Something new. Something scary.

Bloody hell, North Node. Specifically, NNode-Venus/Karma.

AUGH.

posted October 24, 2013 05:30 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
The same here lol..
~his Pr. Venus is exactly conjunct my n. NN late June 2015 ; )

.. after that a KITE is waiting for us, his progressed Mars & Sun tie together with my progressed and natal Venus. (+ a stand-alone venus/mars conj. ~ his progr. venus to my natal mars)
The real proven Westran-stuff!

Ow and actually.. when we first met (*the world* at first sight for both) we had a *trans-dimensional* progressed venus/mars conjunction. The exact same progression within 1* also in the HELIO-sky (of which recently the peak passed).

~ ~ Trans-dimensional: An aspect which exists in both the geocentric and heliocentric dimensions ~ ~

(back to my current vedic astro obsession ~ for weeks now )

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Our progressions are not that outstanding.

HOwever, his pr DESC is conjunct my natal Mars currently and applying to a conjunction with my natal ASC.

posted October 24, 2013 05:41 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

For one, he was at an imaginary tea-party.

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I LOVE that!

BTW in our first meeting chart BML and ERos figured strongly, too.

ASC 10 Sagittarius
BML 12 Sagittarius
Eros 12 Gemini

mean BML 4 Sagittarius
(our composite mean BML: 6 Sagittarius)

(interestingly my natal Kaali is 12 Gemini, Neptune and NN on 10 Sagittarius - for him his Mercury-Kaali-conjunction on 9 and 6 Sag was roughly hit; )

mean and true Lilith were exactly contraparallel Eros on 26 degree S/N

In orb with OOB Moon on 27 S (which was also conjunct Pluto by one degree).

The tightest aspect-pattern was a Mystical triangle of

Moon: 1.58 Cap
Pluto: 0°32 Cap

Sun: 2°04 Gemini

Saturn: 2°01 Virgo

This whole aspect pattern is disposited or even owned by Mercury (Moon and Pluto are being disposited by Saturn, which in turn of course listens to Mercury, as does Sun).

Mercury was on 20.57 Gemini in 7th house conjunct, even flanked by MAHAKALA and KAALI

posted October 24, 2013 06:46 AM            

Gosh, there is so much I can relate to, especially in your feelings.

"For one, it was 27 January, at night, a few years ago."
22nd may for me. 2 days before my parent`s weddingday curiously. lol

Another thing, I heard that some people speculate the birth of Jesus Christ having taken place on 23rd may (not saying I believe nor disbelieve this) - but true, or not, fact is that night when I first seen him in a full musical on stage he was performing the role of Jesus in "Jesus Christ Superstar", and to this very day, whenever he sings "Gethsemane", I swear I start smelling Jasmine from somewhere!

Yeshua was on 2 Capricorn (conj Moon and Pluto) opposite Magdalena on 1 cancer - naturally.

Jessie on 12 Gemini obiously exactly on Eros and opposite BML and conjunct DESC.

Transiting Karma on 10 Cancer was conjunct Davison DESC on 11 Cancer, Davison Jessie on 9 Cancer and Davison Mary on 11 Cancer.

Transiting Mary on 13 Cap conjunct Davison Karma on 14 Cap.

Composite Mary conjuncts c-Moon on 22 Cap exact and conj. c-Jessie on 19 Cap; they are also all parallel.

But to b honest I refrain usually from checking for all the asteroids surrounding Jesus and Mary Magdalene; simply for the reason they are creeping me out in this particular chartcomparision.

" The date is indelible, because it's the birthdate of Charles Dodgson - AKA Lewis Carroll."
Isn`t that prophetic!

"The Moon exactly conjunct Lewiscarroll on his Sun in 8 Cancer. Alice, Madhatter, and the NNode all parallel."
Wow!

And 8 is such a karmic number, also infinity.

Oh, yeah, I stopped. On a dime.

" and he was overcome by a sense of reconnexion, though we'd never met before."
That was what I felt.

It was like, I donīt know, almost like re-meeting a family member, a cousin or brother or something like that (just that I didnīt experience particular sister-like feelings. lol), someone you once knew, but somehow you haven`t met for a long time, but when you do again, it all comes back to you, the sense of amiliarity, and yes, I experienced that and it spooked me. Cause i had to actively tell myself: You donīt know this man.
LOL

When something deep inside was telling me that indeed I did.

" I recall, at that moment, my mind was curiously silent - and fully locked in on the WTF-factor."
Oh yes. He stepped out of that door, and despite there being some other, much younger, much prettier, much I donīt know girlier girls, but his look locked in on me. I was just standing in the background, I think I might even have been leaning against a wall, cause otherwise I might have simply fallen down. LOL
Something like this does not happen to me, yet it did.
And it got all so much worse by the way he seemed to "zoom in" on me, instead of giving me the time I needed to somehow find back to my inner balance, switch on my mind again, get it to work in normal ways.

"I went into my default mode: casting director."
Me, too.
Just for me it was weird astrology.obsessed woman lol

I tried so hard to operate on my usual intellectual analytical level, and he seemed to - at least it appeared to me, react/ act on, yes what? Instinctual level?
I mean maybe he was just still under the influence of jsut having been crucified on stage - again. Maybe it was just that.
Or I or everyone there was boring. lol
He had difficulties to focus, or actually probably had so many things going through his head, his mind leaps were astonishing. Even to me.
Well, I followed them much more, and seemed to know what he was getting at, when the other girls there (it was not that many, maybe 3 or 4), were so totally clueless.
But hey maybe it takes one Mercury in Sag to understand another.
Or my Neptune on his Mercury, was kinda tuned in, but fact is, it was really weird and bizarre.

Especially that moment when he was thinking he had been smelling a certain fragrance, and for some reason seemed to think I was using that fragrance. I assured him that I wasn`t. (Just freshly showered and washing my hair, nothing else).
He seemed to not believe me.
Why would I lie about somehting like this though?
Well, but I certainly did NOT aspect him to sniff at my hair, well the air around my hair. That is what I mean with he seemed to act on a quite different level than I tried to keep on operating on. LOL

Seriously, I have never had before or afterwards any person sniffing my hair within the first 10 minutes of meeting.

"having literally thrown something together out of my closet that matched"
Sounds familiar. Well I was wearing a nice blouson, but since it was still chilly that night, I had been wearing a jacket, and of course Ihad to use the oldest shabbiest black jacket I could find.

"'why, we're having tea, dear!'"
LOL
Classic!

"I just laughed. Looking at him, for some reason, was suddenly very difficult"
Yes, very difficult. Cause i donīt know I can`t just "just look at him". It always feels like something in his eyes pulls me closer. Much too close for comfort. And I don`t want to stare at him either. it is difficult.
There is no way to look at him in a superficial way I guess. Or maybe I am just too selfconscious then.

" I wanted to run and hide. "
Yes, I tried. Even after the show, I tried to run and hide, get back to my hotel. But even though it was so nearby, I lost my way. And after I ended up at the stage door (and I had no idea where it would be) for the 3rd time, trying to find my way back home, I simply gave up. I thought: Oh what the heck!

I started running and hiding immediately afterwards though. For 2 years. Ru and hide, and being really sick for the first time in my life.
My sickness miraculously vanished after I had allowed myself to see him again 2 years later. lol

"stayed, and acted like an idiot"
Yes, acting like an idiot, a mad woman, definitely.

"Little secret: I used to argue with myself. Publicly. I'd get SO caught up in my head that I'd disconnect from the world around me and only my inner world really existed. "
Yes, I know that. I am doing that too, more so as a child, but sometimes still.

"I told myself that 'he' does not exist, thank you; 'he' is a character in a book. 'He' is the product of an overactive collegiate imagination, borne of misery, loneliness and some sort of desperate longing for a companionship the likes of which only exist IN one's imagination. And, thank you very much, but I have FINALLY grown up."
YES, exactly how I had calmed myself 2 years efore when I first layed eyes on him; and did so from close up, cause it was during an open air concert, and me and my friends were standing at the top of the stairs (we did not want to squeeze into the crowd cause we both were prone to anxiety attacks back then), and he suddenly jumped off stage, racing up the stairs, and threatened to stick a microphone into my face, while singing "Feel" from Robbie Williams (what was that for? It was a musical-open air, but this song, yeah, letīs just say I could relate so well to it).
I was so startled I actually stepped back and hid behind my friend`s backs. LOL
But this one look on him, and my inner voice was SCREAMING at me from the top of its voice. It took a long time to mute it again, and it cost me months of depression; I never even realized or admitted to myself what it was that was missing.
Curiously enough I was having a dream of him the week before, taking place in Druid times in England or Ireland. Ancient. maybe early medieval.

But you can`t dream of people, you have never met, right?
Insanity.

"HE does not exist. And if he did ... oh, God, it'd rip my life apart."
Yes, exactly.

" The careful construct I'd built so diligently would prove nothing but a house of cards to be taken down by an overeager child."
There are some moments when you know that there can be no turning back from there anymore. For me the realization hit the moment he was looking at me 2 years after we had first crossed each other`s path. I swear I could HEAR the door to my past sīlam shut in the back of my mind. No going back from there. Instead I started running in circles around this point, not moving forwards. And backwards I could not.

"But I can't ignore the signs anymore. I can't fight that. It's incredible, crazy even; so outside of the realm of even being possible, "
Yes. Same here. It IS impossible. And yet, something is.

"that now I have to step out of MY comfort zone and do the thing I DO NOT DO. I have to be the one to put myself out there - WAY out there, to the point where I can get even MORE hurt than I already have."
Yes, I fear it is true for me too, risking to be really hurt. And honestly, one reason I am leaving things as they are, in this floating, I know that he can hurt me like noone else ever did. And I knew rejection before!
But this, what would be left of me?
And it scares me that I can even think like this.
I am not dependent on his approval, I should not be.
This is going too far. -But still, maybe my existence does not depend on him, but his approval means a lot to me, more than I am wanting to admit.

And we do not even have that big Karma-aspects. lol

Well his Draco Valentine is conjunct my tzropical Karma. Does that count?
oh and my Draco Karma is conjunct his tropical Karma.

my nodal axis ties into his Mars/Jupiter-Mercury-square, also involving my Mars, ASC, Neptune and Jupiter.

his nodal axis squaring my Mars, sextile my Uranus and being semisquare my SAturn.

Interestingly the composite NN is conjunct Mars, Amor, Cupido and Camelot. Ah, there it is again. and now he is going to play Artus?
Does he want to destroy me????

posted October 25, 2013 03:33 AM            

Wow that is so cool about the Arthur/Guinevere asteroids!
And its funny how Jude's Lancelot happens to be right in between you and Mr. Sag's placements

Hm, maybe you should look into the synastry of your Arthur/Lancelot/Guinevere persona charts!
I am sure you will be bound to find some significant connections in there as well

And about your first meeting progressions; what really caught my eye the most was how both your Pr. Venuses were aspecting yin/yang planets in your own natals; his Pr. Venus on his n. Sun and your Pr. Venus on your n. Moon!
I love it!

"BTW in our first meeting chart BML and ERos figured strongly, too.

ASC 10 Sagittarius
BML 12 Sagittarius
Eros 12 Gemini"

posted October 25, 2013 05:46 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

What sort of synastry aspects do you guys think would be responsible for dreaming/having visions of the person before knowing them and the whole transformation/awakening themes?

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Reference objects
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Sun, Moon, ASC, IC, NN certainly
Venus, Mars maybe

major:
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Moon, (Mercury), Neptune, Pluto, maybe Uranus, too

asteroids:
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Anubis, Aura, Spirit, Hypnos (!), Pallas, Psyche, Kaali.

Also check Anubis in the composite.
I have noticed that if people meet in the astral or have such experience, in the composite Anubis will be on an angle (ASC, DESC, IC, MC), NN, or tightly aspecting Sun, Moon or Neptune.
The Anubis-Neptune-conjunction comes up so often it borders the creepy.

This seems to be only valid for composite though (at least the consistency of these coming up)

In both composites, with Mr Law and Mr Sag, Anubis is on the ASC, with Mr Law the conjunction is 1°12, with Mr Sag it is 0°56, in the case of MR Law and me Anubis is also conjunct Neptune, as Neptune is so exact on the ASC.

Sabian of composite Anubis with Mr Law:
(curiously this is the same degree as his ASC)
A Theatrical Representation Of A Golden-Haired Goddess Of Opportuinity

composite ASC and Neptune (same degree as my natal Atlantis and his natal Lucifer)
A Mother Leads Her Small Child Step By Step Up A Steep Stairway

Sabian of composite Anubis with Mr Sag (00 Aquarius)
An Old Adobe Mission In California

posted October 25, 2013 06:01 AM            

"Hm, maybe you should look into the synastry of your Arthur/Lancelot/Guinevere persona charts!"
That is a great idea.

"his Pr. Venus on his n. Sun and your Pr. Venus on your n. Moon! "
I can`t believe I never noticed that! LOL
Thanks for pointing it out, but yes, though maybe I mistyped but it was his pr Sun on his n Venus.

"BML has to do with kundalini-rising too right? "
Yes.

My take on BML:

"
Personally I think Lilith relates very much to truth and honesty; so much in fact that she even gives up security and comfort for it, even love.
She can`t make compromises; it`s all or nothing. And every connection must be based on equality.

How this plays out in synastry depends how both persons react to Lilith.
If the guy is actually scared of an equal partner and wants an obedient one, he will try to overpower her and MAKE her obedient.
But noone overpowers Lilith, which can lead to nasty powerplays.

It also can mean that the guy is utterly repulsed by a woman who has strong Lilith traits and is strong and independent, but inside there is a very strong and raw sexual attraction. I once read that Lilith signifies the woman, that can drive a man over the edge, probably with both passion and fury.

But also for a woman Lilith represents not only how SHE is, but it also seems to signify what she will feel drawn to.

So in synastry the most obvious effects may be: a strong raw sexual attraction, powerplays, being confronted with the truth of ones feelings and life."
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/020089.html

comment: presently I think that in a nutshell BML gives a "Moon-Pluto-feel"

Personally for me BML has a lot to do with TRUTH, INTEGRITY, which in her case means: No compromise!

She rather gets expelled than succumb to social rules she can`t accept.

Demand for equality - she does not want to overpower anyone, but she demands to be treated and respected as an equal; when that does not happen and she feels to be treated unjustly, this triggers her WRATH and RAGE, and MURDEROUS FURY (but that actually is only a consequence, a reaction to what is happening to her, it is not at the core-beginning. It is a defense mechanism, a surivival instinct kicking in).

Of course being a lunar symbolism, Lilith is rarely objective.

I wrote some bits in january on this http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/000731.html http://www.mountainastrologer.com/standards/editor's%20choice/articles/lilith_ hunter/lilith.html

BML is about the instinctive, primal, uncivilised emotions inside of you; those emotions living deep inside your soul, and usually you like to have them locked up in some dark corner, because they do not seem "fitting" or maybe even "taboo".
BML doesn`t care for categories like this though, which makes it difficult to incorporate her in everyday life.
She makes for some fiery emotional dramas worthy of the ancient tragedies or Shakespeare, leading up to katharsis.
If you meet her inside or even in the outside, you might be startled; if it is someone from the outside, it might feel like he or she reaches directly into your soul, including the "dark" parts.

I think that is why she is stong in actors, who played in vampire movies as well, because like the vampiric theme she represents the subconscious urges/ instincts, that do not care a little bit for society`s rules or moral standards (of course there is a reason we have rules, to make living together even possible!).

As a matter of fact LILITH was depicted as the first vampire in mythology I believe.
And as succuba.

Darkstar astrology features a lot of Black Moon Lilith articles and interpretations, and I find her take on it quite fitting

posted October 25, 2013 07:09 AM            

Here's what I found in ours:

Asteroid~Personal Planet/Point:

my Hypnos conjunct his SN 1°
his Hypnos square my NN 0°
his Hypnos parallel my SN
his Hypnos widely-conjunct my Asc 4°
his Hypnos parallel my Asc

my Anubis trine his Moon 2°
my Anubis trine his Mars 1°
my Anubis square his Venus 0°
his Anubis quincunx my Asc 0°
his Anubis widely-opposite my Moon 4°
his Anubis opposite my Mars 2°

my Psyche trine his Mercury 0°
his Psyche square my IC
his Psyche parallel my Desc
his Psyche quincunx my Moon 1°
his Psyche parallel my NN

my Aura trine his Sun/Asc 1°
my Aura conjunct his Neptune 0°

my Kaali contra-parallel his Sun/Asc
my Kaali parallel his Venus
my Kaali trine his NN 0°
his Kaali contra-parallel my Uranus/Neptune

my Spirit square his IC 2°
my Spirit trine his Uranus 1°
my Spirit conjunct his SN 3°
his Spirit sextile my Mercury 2°
his Spirit sextile my Uranus 0°
his Spirit sextile my Neptune 1°
his Spirit conjunct my Pluto 3°
his Spirit widely-conjunct my NN 4°

my Pallas trine his Moon 2°
my Pallas contra-parallel his Sun/Asc
my Pallas parallel his Venus
his Pallas trine my Asc 1°
his Pallas parallel my Moon

Asteroid~Asteroid:

Anubis widely-conjunct Anubis 4°
Anubis parallel Anubis
my Anubis square his Pallas 2°
my Anubis quincunx his Hypnos 0°
my Anubis parallel his Spirit
his Anubis parallel my Spirit DW of Anubis/Spirit!
his Anubis conjunct my Aura 2°

Psyche conjunct Psyche 0°
Psyche parallel Psyche
my Psyche parallel his Hypnos

posted October 25, 2013 07:12 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Also check Anubis in the composite.
I have noticed that if people meet in the astral or have such experience, in the composite Anubis will be on an angle (ASC, DESC, IC, MC), NN, or tightly aspecting Sun, Moon or Neptune.
The Anubis-Neptune-conjunction comes up so often it borders the creepy.

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Oh my god it IS creepy!!!

posted October 25, 2013 07:17 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Sabian of composite Anubis with Mr Law:
(curiously this is the same degree as his ASC)
A Theatrical Representation Of A Golden-Haired Goddess Of Opportuinity

composite ASC and Neptune (same degree as my natal Atlantis and his natal Lucifer)
A Mother Leads Her Small Child Step By Step Up A Steep Stairway

Sabian of composite Anubis with Mr Sag (00 Aquarius)
An Old Adobe Mission In California

ASC-sabian
An Unexpected Thunderstorm
(yeah you could say that )

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LOL at the Sabians!
I think they are pretty fitting in your case, especially the theatre and thunderstome one haha

I have no idea how to interpret what our composite Anubis/Neptune sabian means:

posted October 25, 2013 07:31 AM            

I like how you describe her as having a Moon/Pluto feel.

I sort of went through a "BML" stage myself some time ago.
It was when I was remerging from my "depression' and I realized how brainwashed some people are by the media and such.
I also let go of religion too and became a sort of "non-conformist" you could say.