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Topic: Bizarre Sidereal / Tropical Mirroring? (Twinflame Synastry)
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IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3400 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 18, 2013 03:08 PM
I just noticed (yeah, I'm late to the party) the following between my TF and myself.My Tropical: Sun in Libra Moon in Scorpio Mercury in Scorpio Venus in Virgo Mars in Sagittarius Jupiter in Virgo Saturn in Libra Uranus in Scorpio Neptune in Sagittarius Pluto in Libra His Sidereal (to my tropical): Sun in Sagittarius (within orb of my Moon) Moon in Scorpio (out of orb of my Moon) Mercury in Scorpio (on my Mercury/Moon/Uranus) Venus in Capricorn (square my Sun; right on his Jupiter) Mars in Aquarius (on my VX) Jupiter in Sagittarius (on my Neptune, 7R) Saturn in Libra (out of orb of my Saturn) Uranus in Scorpio (on my Mercury/Moon/Uranus) Neptune in Sagittarius (on my IC) Pluto in Libra (on our Juno) Chiron in Taurus (on my Chiron) ... I was a little freaked. Moreover, the ASPECTS are the same! Why? Because we have a lot of the same natal aspects - like Moon-Uranus-Mercury all hanging out together in some form, paralleling and all that jazz. So when it goes to sidereal - bam, it's in Scorpio. Only real differences are the Sun, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter. Just kinda blew me away ... looking at his sidereal, and practically seeing my own chart. A few interesting changes, though: like we end up with an exact sidereal Valentine-Eros conjunction; my Amor becomes 28 Sag - right on his tropical Sun. (His Valentine/Destinn becomes 19 Libra - right on my tropical Sun.) That's just scratching the surface. Wow. Kinda cool. IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2013 03:28 PM
LOL Its fascinating isnt it I noticed this with ours too. Also I found some aspects in the sidereal mirroring our tropical synastry, except they are interchanged; For example in the tropical we have my Sun conjunct his Asc, and in the sidereal, its his Sun/Asc conjunct my tropical Asc. Another thing I found interesting was that this mirroring thing continues on into the harmonic charts too, not neccessarily sign-wise but aspect-wise as well; such as my Moon-Saturn conjunction in the 12th harmonic is mirrored in a complementary way as a Sun-Saturn conjunction in his 12th harmonic =) IP: Logged |
PlutoFish Knowflake Posts: 1963 From: Sumeria Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2013 03:30 PM
Do you find many similarities between you?------------------ Draconic > Inner Sphere Natal > Outer Sphere Know Thyself IP: Logged |
PlutoFish Knowflake Posts: 1963 From: Sumeria Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2013 03:30 PM
Do you find many similarities between you?------------------ Draconic > Inner Sphere Natal > Outer Sphere Know Thyself IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 1895 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted October 18, 2013 05:39 PM
Other than the astrology, how did you find out you found your twinflame? What things: numerology, parallel lives etc. verified it for you both? Thanks!IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 3619 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2013 05:48 PM
Wow, this is really interesting indeed.IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3400 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 18, 2013 07:30 PM
Oh, man. Where to start ... I honestly don't know! It's like ... 8 years of unbelievable, 'you've got to be kidding me!' kind of stuff. We've overcome the sorts of things that most people wouldn't even attempt - no less actually manage. As to our similarities ... his mother has been confused online when we were responding in a thread, and it was late and she wasn't paying attention to the icons. We 'think' the same way - as well as communicate similarly, too. (Our Mercuries are exactly semisextile and parellel.) We've been called 'like you, but with a [insert appropriate genitalia here]. We have the same eyes: colour, shape, and features (dark rings with lighter flecks). He was born in the hospital where my uncle died; we were born in separate states, and still haven't lived in the same place, despite moving. But we are closer now, heh. We have the same vocal quirks, features, and odd ability to mimic whomever we're talking to. In fact, the only people we can be 'ourselves' with is each other - for some reason. We like all the same things. I mean ALL the same things. We just ended up gravitating to or growing up with the same influences. I spent way too much time devouring stand-up comedy, for example, during my adolescence, to the point where I became something of a comedy consultant strictly as a hobby. He's a professional comic. We met as writers, doing it for the exact same reasons, and I brought him on to my project without really giving it any thought. It just felt right. Years ago, when I was 19, I'd had a dream of what seemed to be my twin soul for the first time; I didn't recognise him. I didn't know him. All I was given was his birthday. Which is his birthday. (I'd forgotten this entirely until I was suddenly reminded by a friend of mine from that time who's born exactly one year off of it.) His instant messages (since we met online) would literally pop up in my dreams. I ALWAYS know when he's calling - right before he does. I can think something in my head - and he texts me the answer. BIZARRE, mind-altering, 'you've got to be kidding me!' sorts of things which have COMPLETELY changed my concept of what I thought reality was. Does that about cover it? ;p IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3400 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 18, 2013 07:33 PM
AND, on top of that, the story we ended up creating together is essentially about twin flames in a modern, quirky, black dramedy style project. Going back and looking at our charts (and composite) it's almost like the story we were creating was reminiscent of some sort of karmic influence we were dealing with. Same themes. I'd never dealt with that before. And NOW I'm dealing with it AGAIN in another relationship. Very intense. Really, really powerful stuff. But I feel like I'm 'resolving' this one. If that makes sense. Like it's 'time' for this one, and one day, it'll be time for us. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3400 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 18, 2013 07:44 PM
Oh, hell. Might as well: IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2013 10:22 PM
Hollyyy look at that Sag-stellium in the 1st house!!!Love angle and asteroid action in your synastry! =) IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3400 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 19, 2013 02:38 AM
Ohhhh, no, it's Scorpio. Almost all Scorpio. The Sag is the Merc, Nep, and Eros. But, yes. Save for Pluto-Lust-Saturn, Mars, and Karma-Destinn - it's ALL in the 1H. With, naturally, the ruler being in the 12H. It's the most concentrated composite I've seen / experienced. A companion soul and I come close, but nothing touches this. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3400 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 19, 2013 02:49 AM
I would also love to see the TF synastry / composites you've found. I've got a couple I've seen, too. There's something really undeniable about them. Even now, just like today, for example; hard as things are, we just have this way about us. 'Underhandedly loving', I call it. He can somehow manage to be insulting or sardonic (snark is the long-standing currency of our relationship) while also managing to be supportive. He's still very angry with me, so that's his 'default'. And yet ... he can always somehow get it across that he loves me. God knows how he does that, but he does. Heh. Only thing I can think of is a series of which we became fast fans, as it affected us deeply. It's called The Newsroom, on HBO. For those familiar, he's the Will to my Mac. We both know it. Just the way it is. And one day ... his moment of realisation or epiphany will come, and he'll be able to forgive me, and it'll be our time. I somehow know it will. I also know it's not now, and won't be for some time. There are other things I have to do. He's got to accept some things, and grow in certain areas. We both do. We're not ready to embody the very essence of unconditional and transcendental love yet. Heh. But we will some day. Just the way it is.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14228 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 19, 2013 09:18 AM
*deep sigh*Why is it that everytme I try out a new intriguing chartcomparision-technique, it is always Jude`s chart that seems to hook into it? I really wish it wasn´t like that. But usually one glance suffices. In this instance the one glance shows his sideral Eros on my tropical Psyche by 1 degree. Damn it! *glaring at universe* Can you PLEASE stop doing that? I already said NO! I know it is just one example of aspects (along with my Draco Eros being exactly conjunct his tropical Psyche. lol).
But then again I did not yet dare to check Mr Sag`s sidereal chart; I already noticed that my sidereal Moon is exactly conjunct our composite Moon, my tropical Sun/Moon-mp, Antivertex and conjunct HIS tropical Venus. *sighs* my sidereal IC on his tropical Eros. my sidereal Eros on his tropical IC and exact opposite Sun and a little wider Moon. I am stopping here, I don`t really want to know. lol IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3400 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 19, 2013 12:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: *deep sigh*Why is it that everytme I try out a new intriguing chartcomparision-technique, it is always Jude`s chart that seems to hook into it? I really wish it wasn´t like that. But usually one glance suffices. In this instance the one glance shows his sideral Eros on my tropical Psyche by 1 degree. Damn it! *glaring at universe* Can you PLEASE stop doing that? I already said NO! I know it is just one example of aspects (along with my Draco Eros being exactly conjunct his tropical Psyche. lol).
But then again I did not yet dare to check Mr Sag`s sidereal chart; I already noticed that my sidereal Moon is exactly conjunct our composite Moon, my tropical Sun/Moon-mp, Antivertex and conjunct HIS tropical Venus. *sighs* my sidereal IC on his tropical Eros. my sidereal Eros on his tropical IC and exact opposite Sun and a little wider Moon. I am stopping here, I don`t really want to know. lol
Wait, wait, I think I've got it all figured out. So, I become famous, (natch), and you come out here to ... the 68th Emmys, (because apparently that's the one where I'm going to win - don't ask how I know these things! ) you meet Jude and ... the rest is history. See? That was easy. <3 IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3400 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 19, 2013 12:27 PM
It's also a bit to do with the fact it's someone distant you don't know which makes him 'safe'. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14228 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 19, 2013 12:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: It's also a bit to do with the fact it's someone distant you don't know which makes him 'safe'.
Yes, definitely. But speaking astrologically, the astrology of it never ceases to astound me. And I don`t even like him all that much.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14228 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 19, 2013 12:41 PM
LOL It`s slowly getting unnverving though. Everytime I am talking about Jude to you, my doorbell starts ringing. For some reason it has the ringtone of Big Ben. Anyway there is never anyone at the door, and I checked it with my parents, noone did anything to hit that frequency. I have no freaking clue why it goes off like that. There is no reason, there is no regularity to it either, just the fact that I am sitting here and mentioning him. LOLIP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14228 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 19, 2013 12:58 PM
posting also the draco composite because of the accentuation
BTW the Eros-IC-conjunction was with Mr Sag, not Jude. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 3400 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 19, 2013 01:53 PM
Well, damn, Ceri! That's a helluva composite! It's got the level of concentration only found in soul connexions.You know, the friend I'd been trying to get back in touch with finally found my message and got back to me yesterday. He and Mr Fate are born exactly 1 year apart. He was the one I'd told the dream of my twin, (when I was 19) saying that it was his birthday - but one year off (Fate's). So, who knows, right? Who ever REALLY knows? IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 19, 2013 02:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Ohhhh, no, it's Scorpio. Almost all Scorpio. The Sag is the Merc, Nep, and Eros. But, yes. Save for Pluto-Lust-Saturn, Mars, and Karma-Destinn - it's ALL in the 1H. With, naturally, the ruler being in the 12H. It's the most concentrated composite I've seen / experienced. A companion soul and I come close, but nothing touches this.
Oops! Yeah lol it is Scorpio Sorry I'm not really used to reading circular charts, I use the PDF placements and tables in my readings lol Btw, I've also found Davisons to be just as effective and telling, if not more than the composites, in my experience.
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Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 19, 2013 02:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: I would also love to see the TF synastry / composites you've found. I've got a couple I've seen, too. There's something really undeniable about them.
Sure I'll post them Here is the synastry with my TF Edited. --- Our Composite Edited. --- Our Davison Edited. --- Synastry of my friend with her TF Edited. --- Their Composite Edited. --- Their Davison Edited. IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 19, 2013 02:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: We have the same eyes: colour, shape, and features (dark rings with lighter flecks). He was born in the hospital where my uncle died; we were born in separate states, and still haven't lived in the same place, despite moving. But we are closer now, heh.We have the same vocal quirks, features, and odd ability to mimic whomever we're talking to. In fact, the only people we can be 'ourselves' with is each other - for some reason. We like all the same things. I mean ALL the same things. We just ended up gravitating to or growing up with the same influences
You know this is another thing that I find the most fascinatihg and intriguing — the similarities and coincidences! I blame Vertex lol, his Vertex is on my Desc. We too resemble one another, despite being from different backgrounds, It especially obvious in our eyes, they have the same "look" to them, same shape, same colour, etc. Same with our facial features/bone structure, right down to our limbs/hands and skin colour Its pretty freaky. Even our personalities and mannerisms are the same lol. This is what got me wondering about him initially, how much he reminded me of myself. The level of ease, comfort and familiarity I felt towards him was profound, like I had known him forever and I could be myself with him without any barriers. Its can get really scary at times....
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14228 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 19, 2013 02:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Well, damn, Ceri! That's a helluva composite! It's got the level of concentration only found in soul connexions.You know, the friend I'd been trying to get back in touch with finally found my message and got back to me yesterday. He and Mr Fate are born exactly 1 year apart. He was the one I'd told the dream of my twin, (when I was 19) saying that it was his birthday - but one year off (Fate's). So, who knows, right? Who ever REALLY knows?
Yes who really know, right? So much things happening. a shower of synchronicities. Maybe it is the ecclipse still (it was on my Draco Venus). I don`t know. What you told me about your dream, it reminded me of something. When Iwas maybe 11 or 12 years old, I was drawing the picture of a man, his face (I NEVER EVER drew pictures, especially not of men, he was the only one I ever drew). After I had finished it I remember that I was staring down at him, and something aobut him seemed so familiar (well I drew him, I know), though I did not know this guy, had never met him. Besides it was the picture of a man in his early 30`s. Many years later I saw the double of that face looking out of a camera in the film "Cold Mountain". I almost passed out. LOL I had seen films with him before, but it was only in THAT moment that I realized that I had seen this exact face before, in my image. Relaly like a twin brother or something like that. And since I am just 2 years younger, I drew that picture many many years before this film woudl ever happen. I have no explanation, no idea, maybe it is just coincidence. But one heck of a weird one! IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 1167 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 19, 2013 03:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Yes who really know, right? So much things happening. a shower of synchronicities. Maybe it is the ecclipse still (it was on my Draco Venus).
Hi Ceri, Lol I find it strange how dreams/picture-drawings are another common denominator here Same thing with us, except it was him that had the dreams initially, then when just prior to me becoming aware of him, I dreamt about him too. And whenever I would just "free-draw" and doodle, I'd end up drawing his face unconsciously LOL. Another couple I know, the ones whos synastry I posted above, the guy would have dreams of her long before they met and he would paint her. She was so shocked when he showed her those paintings after =) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 14228 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 19, 2013 03:13 PM
Well I probably get all confused with mixing it all up with Mr Law and Mr Sag. LOL though yes, I did dream of Mr Sag, too. Before we met.
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