posted October 25, 2013 07:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

We have in our composite: Anubis conjunct Neptune exact & Uranus at 2°
Anubis is also quincunx composite Moon, Mars & Chiron all exact.

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Didn`t I tell you?
this is one of the most consistent things I have ever encountered in astrology.

posted October 25, 2013 07:39 AM            

my BML trine his Sun/Asc 2°
my BML trine his Neptune 1°
my BML opposite his Pluto 1°
my BML parallel his Chiron
my BML parallel his Anti-Vertex

his BML conjunct my Venus 0°
his BML square my Uranus 1°
his BML square my Neptune 3°
his BML parallel my IC/Jupiter

posted October 25, 2013 07:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Wow thanks for all that info on Lilith!

I like how you describe her as having a Moon/Pluto feel.

I sort of went through a "BML" stage myself some time ago.
It was when I was remerging from my "depression' and I realized how brainwashed some people are by the media and such.
I also let go of religion too and refused too and became a sort of "non-conformist" you could say.

I just checked the transits for that time and Tr. Pluto was opposing my n. BML
In my progressions, Jupiter was opposing my n. BML and my pr. BML was on my n. SN exact LOL

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the one in the drop down menu or h13?

Your BML-synastry is more than intense. Conjunct Venus, tie to Pluto and all these suqares?
If you are not ready for it, you better run and hide, but real quick and far. ANd probably it will never be quick nor far enough!

Can`t escape this one.

posted October 25, 2013 07:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

which BML did you use? Mean or true one?

the one in the drop down menu or h13?

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posted October 25, 2013 07:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
The h13 one, which I think is the True one.

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posted October 25, 2013 07:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Didn`t I tell you?
this is one of the most consistent things I have ever encountered in astrology.

Right along with soulmates having tight interconnections between IC/4th house ruler and DESC/7thg house rulers.

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Yes, its incredible!

Lol we have the IC/DESC ruker stuff hapoening too.

posted October 25, 2013 07:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Yes, its incredible!

Lol we have the IC/DESC ruker stuff hapoening too.

my IC co-ruler opposite his Desc-ruler 0°
my IC co-ruler conjunct his Desc co-ruler 3°
his IC ruler trine my Desc co-ruler 3°

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exactly, something like that I meant. It comes up so often, it cannot be coincidence.

posted October 25, 2013 07:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I prefer it, too.
Though sometimes the mean one seems to give good results, too.

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posted October 25, 2013 07:55 AM            

Venus/Pluto, maybe also Venus/BMLn or BML/Pluto?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr7mu5RUNyk

posted October 25, 2013 07:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Your BML-synastry is more than intense. Conjunct Venus, tie to Pluto and all these suqares?
If you are not ready for it, you better run and hide, but real quick and far. ANd probably it will never be quick nor far enough!

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posted October 25, 2013 07:59 AM            

Especially that last one that you sent, the actors and their attire remind me of HIM when he was dressed up as a vampire last Halloween LOL

posted October 25, 2013 08:05 AM            

Funny thing is Mr Sag performed this role on stage (haven`T seen him in that though); it seems to be so far from his personality.
But he was actually chosen or picked by the composer and creator of the musical himself.

posted October 25, 2013 08:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
LOL

Funny thing is Mr Sag performed this role on stage (haven`T seen him in that though); it seems to be so far from his personality.
But he was actually chosen or picked by the composer and creator of the musical himself.

Maybe he tapped into his natal Venus-Pluto-square for this oh and maybe into his BML in Leo on Regulus trine his Sun-Moon-MC, his pr BML had been conjunct his natal Mars and Jupiter exact that year, too.

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Lol wow!
Yes it could have been his natal configurations making it more easier for him.
Or it also could be something in his draconic chart seeping through his natal too; like maybe Draco BML on his tropical personal placements or Draco placements on his tropical BML?

posted October 25, 2013 08:16 AM            

his BML opposes my BML exact
his BML parallel my Pluto
his BML contraparallel my Moon and Uranus
his BML contraparallel my Sappho
(his Sappho parallels it)

my BML also conjuncts his Priapus* by 2 degrees
my BML contraparallel his Pluto

we also have a DW-conjunction of BML and PARVATI which opposes each other synastrically, right along his nodal axis

Priapus is the complementary counterpart of BML. Where the black moon is the point where Moon is farthest away from earth, Priapus is the point,w here it is closest.

It seems that while Lilith does not make any compromises (to be accepted and loved), Priapus will go the distance (and often without success) to be accepted and loved.

posted October 25, 2013 08:18 AM            

"I found a short article on Lilith and Priapus, but it`s in German. (http://www.astrologieschule-heiligenhaus.de/lilith.htm)

It sais that Lilith is the point of fascination,where a person feels the emotional urge to grow beyond themselves. It`s the point where a person has much power, but often decides to suppress the power. Or she exaggerates the urge to be independent, which often forces her to be distant to other people.

Priapus now is a point, where you feel rather powerless. But at this point you have a strong capability and longing to merge with others, to feel for them, to develop empathy and basically it`s the point where oyu can adapt to others to the point of losing yourself.

Priapus is also the god of health and fertility (son of Venus and Bacchus / Dionysos). And it seems, according to mythology, he was having a constant erection. Well, what could you expect of a God, who is son of the goddess of erotic love and the god of extasy? lol
But I think it just symbolizes that he is very much in touch with the earth, with all instincts, with a strong desire to merge and become ONE with earth / life.

Maybe the difference between Lilith and Priapus is like this:
Both are driven by very strong desires.
But Lilith demands to be equal, independent, to voluntarily turn to someone, or else she will repell or be repelled. She can`t make any compromises. In the best sense she`s painfully truthful, and she makes great sacrifices (like being rejected from society) to maintain her independence.

Priapos on the other hand has such a great need to merge, that he will sacrifice the truth for it. He will make any compromises that are necessary to be close to someone. But since PRiapos is also a male God, he seems to be also prone to become sexually violent or absusive, to force closeness to his "object of affection".
At least the myth tell about him attempting to rape at least two goddesses / nymphs. But everytime the rape has been interrupted, before it could be done, and Priapus has been kicked out.
He is a nasty little god, isn`t he? At least int he myth.
But on the positive side he has a very direct access to his fertility and lust.

I`m not really sure what to make of it astrologically. But maybe Priapus depicts a point in the horoscope where there is an overwhelming urge to merge, which may become so overwhelming and desperate that you may humilate yourself, by committing really low acts (be they destructive towards others as in an attempted rape. or be they selfdestructive, by "offering" yourself, even if oyu know that you will never get back enough, so that you will be satisfied; the willingness to live a lie just to feel the illusion of merging.)

But I think there must also be a positive way to see Priapus and Lilith. Maybe Priapus can offer that empathy like it has been said in that article I mentioned."
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015692.html

posted October 25, 2013 08:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Lol wow!
Yes it could have been his natal configurations making it more easier for him.
Or it also could be something in his draconic chart seeping through his natal too; like maybe Draco BML on his tropical personal placements or Draco placements on his tropical BML?

I found the dracos explaining a lot of hidden things that couldn't be explained by the natals alone, in my experience. I find them very intruging!

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Yes Dracos are MAJOR soulstuff. Good call!

his Draco BML is conjunct his natal ASC (and btw is conjunct MY Draco ASC exact )

it means his Draco BML is also opposite his Saturn and Vertex

his Draco Venus is widely conjunct his natal BML (4 degrees).

his Drco BML is contraparallel his natal Eros

posted October 25, 2013 08:27 AM            

Yes it makes sense with all those strong aspects you share!

"we also have a DW-conjunction of BML and PARVATI which opposes each other synastrically, right along his nodal axis"

Dang, sounds like a juicy learning experience for him! Lol

"Also let`s not forget the poor god had a constant boner, but I never read anything about some kind of release, poor thing must have been really frustrated. lol"

LOL oh my
That's just painful to think how he must have felt!

posted October 25, 2013 08:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
just found an old thread on this

"I found a short article on Lilith and Priapus, but it`s in German. (http://www.astrologieschule-heiligenhaus.de/lilith.htm)

It sais that Lilith is the point of fascination,where a person feels the emotional urge to grow beyond themselves. It`s the point where a person has much power, but often decides to suppress the power. Or she exaggerates the urge to be independent, which often forces her to be distant to other people.

Priapus now is a point, where you feel rather powerless. But at this point you have a strong capability and longing to merge with others, to feel for them, to develop empathy and basically it`s the point where oyu can adapt to others to the point of losing yourself.

Priapus is also the god of health and fertility (son of Venus and Bacchus / Dionysos). And it seems, according to mythology, he was having a constant erection. Well, what could you expect of a God, who is son of the goddess of erotic love and the god of extasy? lol
But I think it just symbolizes that he is very much in touch with the earth, with all instincts, with a strong desire to merge and become ONE with earth / life.

Maybe the difference between Lilith and Priapus is like this:
Both are driven by very strong desires.
But Lilith demands to be equal, independent, to voluntarily turn to someone, or else she will repell or be repelled. She can`t make any compromises. In the best sense she`s painfully truthful, and she makes great sacrifices (like being rejected from society) to maintain her independence.

Priapos on the other hand has such a great need to merge, that he will sacrifice the truth for it. He will make any compromises that are necessary to be close to someone. But since PRiapos is also a male God, he seems to be also prone to become sexually violent or absusive, to force closeness to his "object of affection".
At least the myth tell about him attempting to rape at least two goddesses / nymphs. But everytime the rape has been interrupted, before it could be done, and Priapus has been kicked out.
He is a nasty little god, isn`t he? At least int he myth.
But on the positive side he has a very direct access to his fertility and lust.

I`m not really sure what to make of it astrologically. But maybe Priapus depicts a point in the horoscope where there is an overwhelming urge to merge, which may become so overwhelming and desperate that you may humilate yourself, by committing really low acts (be they destructive towards others as in an attempted rape. or be they selfdestructive, by "offering" yourself, even if oyu know that you will never get back enough, so that you will be satisfied; the willingness to live a lie just to feel the illusion of merging.)

But I think there must also be a positive way to see Priapus and Lilith. Maybe Priapus can offer that empathy like it has been said in that article I mentioned."
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015692.html

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Awesome!

What is the number for Priapus? I can't seem to find it.

posted October 25, 2013 08:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Yes Dracos are MAJOR soulstuff. Good call!

his Draco BML is conjunct his natal ASC (and btw is conjunct MY Draco ASC exact )

it means his Draco BML is also opposite his Saturn and Vertex

his Draco Venus is widely conjunct his natal BML (4 degrees).

his Drco BML is contraparallel his natal Eros

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Ah, there you go then
His dr. BML on his natal ASC looks like an especially strong indicator, no doubt!

Its also interesting how your angles are aligned like that!
Draco-Synastry never ceases to blow my mind

posted October 25, 2013 08:45 AM            

"LOL oh my
That's just painful to think how he must have felt! "
Yes,

kind of makes me wonder how Mr Sag experiences that in the synastry, his Priapus being conjunct my Lilith.

btw the number is h22 I think

posted October 25, 2013 08:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

kind of makes me wonder how Mr Sag experiences that in the synastry, his Priapus being conjunct my Lilith.

btw the number is h22 I think

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Got the number, thanks!

And as for his Priapus on your Lilith all I can think is ouch! for him.
I think you running from him is increasing his longing and desire... Poor guy

posted October 25, 2013 08:56 AM            

1. Banderas - Griffith
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none

2. Ava Gardner - Frank Sinatra
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her Priapus trine his mean Lilith exact

3. Brad PItt - Angeline Jolie
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his Priapus square her true Lilith (2)

4. Diego Rivera - FRida Kahlo
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his Priapus sextile her BML (1)
her Pirapus sextile his mean Lilith (1)

5. JOhnny Cash - June Carter
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his Priapus square her mean Lilith (2)

6. Laurence OLivier - vivien Leigh
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his Priapus square her true Lilith (4)
(a bit wide though)

posted October 25, 2013 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Got the number, thanks!

And as for his Priapus on your Lilith all I can think is ouch! for him.
I think you running from him is increasing his longing and desire... Poor guy

LOL
Sorry

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Lol

My Neptune tightly squaring his Mars and Eros might not make things any easier I guess.