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Topic: synastries with(out) conjunctions to angles and nodal axis
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Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 367 From: Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 01:48 AM
Though we don't have any Priapus/True Lilith conjunctions to the angles/points between our natals and composite, we do however have:Composite MC conjunct/parallel my n. Mean Lilith 1° Composite True Lilith conjunct my n. True Lilith/Priapus MP 0° Composite Priapus parallel my n. Vertex Composite Desc parallel his n. Mean Lilith PRECISELY 0°00! Composite Desc parallel his n. True Lilith Composite Priapus opposite his n. True Lilith/Priapus MP 0° Composite True Lilith/Priapus MP conjunct my n. Venus and Priapus 1° Composite True Lilith/Priapus MP conjunct his n. True Lilith 1° In the Composite: Priapus parallel NN and Vertex in the 5th (also tightly conjunct Uranus and Neptune) True Lilith quindecile Vertex exact (and quindecile Neptune by 2°) Something else I noticed is that my natal True Lilith is quindecile my natal Priapus, his natal True Lilith, and our composite True Lilith/Priapus midpoint!! ~ I'm scared of this
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 06:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Lol Yes you should definitely write a book! I'd totally buy it, no question You're a very good writer and great at explaining things
Thanks. It`s funny a friend of mine I told that said the same, I should write a book about it. When I was younger I intendd to, however, I always feel like I am not "finished" yet, my system is not perfect yet, I am still learning, and I always feel I should have a working reliable consistent system, before writing about a subject. Maybe I am different in that than others are. What I am having now is pieces of what could be a system one day, but so many mental approaches, I can`t really bring them together as of now. However I think if I ever were to write a book on astrology the angles as well as the "lunar symbols" (Moon, Sun/Moon-mp, nodal axis and Draconic chart, Priapus and LIlith) would figure in strongly, as would conjunctions/ oppositions, solstice points and declinations. I think, I might be coming from a more "natural/ observational" kind of astrology, the actual things we can see in the sky (from our point of reference - Earth-, mostly, which is not really astronomical) as reflection of life on earth. Just musing a little here. Oh and just for my own pleasure, I suppose there would be some mentioning of asteroids. lol
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Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 367 From: Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 07:15 AM
Lol yes, I can understand. Whenever you feel you are ready you can start on it. The angles, lunar symbols and asteroids are my point of interest too, especially in regards to synastry. I love investigating SM/TF charts using those! Also, if I remember correctly you have a 33 lifepath as well right? It could come in very handy for this as its the number of the teacher lol I think you will become very successful with it! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 07:25 AM
While they are all very interesting, I find these here esp. amazing quote: Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan: Composite True Lilith conjunct my n. True Lilith/Priapus MP 0°Composite Priapus opposite his n. True Lilith/Priapus MP 0° Composite True Lilith/Priapus MP conjunct Priapus 1° Composite True Lilith/Priapus MP conjunct his n. True Lilith 1°
Mr Sag have the similiar thing, just in reverse,
composite True Lilith conjuncts his True Lilith/Priapus composite Priapus conjuncts my True Lilith/Priapus IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 07:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan: Lol yes, I can understand. Whenever you feel you are ready you can start on it. The angles, lunar symbols and asteroids are my point of interest too, especially in regards to synastry. I love investigating SM/TF charts using those! Also, if I remember correctly you have a 33 lifepath as well right? It could come in very handy for this as its the number of the teacher lol I think you will become very successful with it!
LOL Yes, 33 lifepath. I am a little black-and-white- I think, cause at least in terms of SOULmates, if the lunar symbols arenīt sticking out (and the angles), I donīt think the souls are really all that much in touch, no matter how much we want to believe it (or how sexy our partner is; nothing wrong with an Earth-mate either ). After all Luna is a symbol for the soul. How could there be soulmates without having these symbols in strong connection? Twinflames are a whole other subject on top of that (though they will ALSO have the lunar connection - but will have some added things). IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 367 From: Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 07:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Mr Sag have the similiar thing, just in reverse, composite True Lilith conjuncts his True Lilith/Priapus composite Priapus conjuncts my True Lilith/Priapus
Wow, that's so cool! I'm quite amazed at this... mirroring happening yet again LOL, what can I say... IP: Logged |
Lavender CrystalSwan Knowflake Posts: 367 From: Canada Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 07:54 AM
"LOL Yes, 33 lifepath."Lol I'm a 33 too. "I am a little black-and-white- I think, cause at least in terms of SOULmates, if the lunar symbols arenīt sticking out (and the angles), I donīt think the souls are really all that much in touch, no matter how much we want to believe it (or how sexy our partner is; nothing wrong with an Earth-mate either ). After all Luna is a symbol for the soul. How could there be soulmates without having these symbols in strong connection? Twinflames are a whole other subject on top of that (though they will ALSO have the lunar connection - but will have some added things)." You know, I totally agree with you. While the lunar symbols and angles HAVE to be present with both soulmates and TFs, Twin Flames or one-soul beings will have that unique symmetry of mirroring in their charts, as well as in their synastry with significant asteroid-mirroring too which sets them apart from soulmates. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 08:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan: Wow, that's so cool! I'm quite amazed at this... mirroring happening yet again LOL, what can I say...
Yes, I wonder if it appears in Indigos comparision, too. Where is she btw? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 08:39 AM
"While the lunar symbols and angles HAVE to be present with both soulmates and TFs," Agree." Twin Flames or one-soul beings will have that unique symmetry of mirroring in their charts, as well as in their synastry with significant asteroid-mirroring too which sets them apart from soulmates." The exact mirroring is only half of the story though. They will also have (and need to) complimentary mirroring. They may be of the same energy, however one of them exhibits the nergy in a more Yang, the other in a more Yin-way. I suppose conjunctions between the same objects are more indicative of soulmates, if it is all there is. Twinflames seem to actually have both, the mirroring on the same level, but there will also be very significant complementing aspects, there is a reason why the ancients liked the Sun-Moon-conjunction so much. (not saying that tf will all have a Sun-Moon-conjunction, or that if you have one, you are TF, it is only ONE aspect after all - and it oes not even tell you if you will get along, just that something inside will start to vibrate with the frequency, maybe you do not even like it. ). But back to the conjunction of Sun and MOon as an example. There is the same frequency, the same energy as expressed in the conjunction, but involving complementary planets.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 08:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan: Wow, that's so cool! I'm quite amazed at this... mirroring happening yet again LOL, what can I say...
Yes, I wonder if it appears in Indigos comparision, too. Where is she btw? IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1220 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted October 30, 2013 10:20 AM
quote: I found it interesting that in my synastry suddenly Priapus was showing up right on the IC of the composite under one degree of orb.my (true) BML/Priapus-mp is on 14.03 Taurus - composite IC is on 16.31 Taurus (though it could be that his birthtime was a bit earlier, then the composite IS would be on 16.10 Taurus, a little closer. ** Oh HEAVENS; how could I overlook this? my natal Priapus: 0°08 Leo composite DESC: 0°09 Leo
That's what I mean!! but I've only used that lilith on the additional object list, if that's the right one? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 10:28 AM
I was checking the data that IQ once gave me as an example of Twinflames.To be honest back then I did not see much in terms of twinflame-potential int hem, apart from the Moon-DESC-conjunction, possibly. But I gave in BML and Priapus now and was like, HU? Where did THAT come from They have Sun conjunct Priapus exact one way (in male`s 7th house.)
And they have NN conjunct BML at 1 dwegree (in males 1st house and female`s 4th house). So his Priapus-BML opposition (roughtly at 5 degrees but exactly contraparallel in his natal) is overlaying her Sun-NN-opposition (6 dgrees - also contraparallel in her natal, but not to his chart). Priapus - BML vs Sun-NN - can it get more lunar in symbolism? hooked to her Sun. How interesting! his Moon on her DESC, playing into this as well, with him adding all pretty much all the lunar objects, circling around the centre of her Sun. c-MC conjunct her mean Lilith
c-Priapus square her nodal axis exact (mean he falls onto the midpoint of NOrth and South Node in her chart) c-true Lilith widely conjunct his NN (4 degrees), it is closely conjunct his Chiron though c-true Lilith/Priapus mp on the GC opposite her natal Priapus exact (and conj. her natal Karma) - squares his nodal axis by 2 degrees
c-Priapus widely conjunct his true LIlith/Priapus - mp (2 degrees) (c-Pluto is exact on it)
c--Priapus is also conjunct his mean Lilith/Priapus by 2 degrees, a little less than that actually c-MC square her true Lilith/Priapus (1 degree) c-Liliths conjunct her true Lilith/Priapus (2 degrees)
his mean Lilith squares her mean Lilith/Priapus exact his SN conjunct her mean Lilith/Priapus (1)
composite LIliths losely conjunct her mean Lilith /Priapus (2 degrees). composite Lilith conjunct her true Lilith/Priapus, too (2 degrees). Hey maybe even the midpoint of both Liliths is important, if we take the midpoint of mean and true Liliths, the alignment is exact in both cases. lol interesting linkup with Siva-Kaali-
c-Kaali opposite his true Lilith (1) c-Siva conjunct her true Lilith exact so to summarize: c-Priapus conjunct his Lilith/Priapus-mp c-Lilith conjunct her Lilith/Priapus-mp Another pairing of these!
So far it seems that both Liliths seem to be of value.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 10:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by mir: That's what I mean!! but I've only used that lilith on the additional object list, if that's the right one?
it is the mean one then. I am usually using the true one, but I notice that both seem to be of value. IP: Logged |
Selene Knowflake Posts: 408 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 11:03 AM
Can we take a look at draconic as well?IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1220 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted October 30, 2013 11:09 AM
Ah ok.. my mean and true are exactly conjunct so I thought they were the same I guess. Matter of a few minutes.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 01:34 PM
Mir,In my case they only differ about 4 degrees, however there can be a difference up to 30 degrees between them! IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 1220 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted October 30, 2013 01:45 PM
Yes.. I'm aware of it now (btw, that's also a small orb you have).. I just read the lesser the orb between them the better or the less demons LOL.. But well, I actually wanted to find out the rrreal difference......I finally found this, THE ASTRONOMICAL VARIANTS OF THE LUNAR APOGEE - BLACK MOON http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/blackmoon/barycentric.html IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 3011 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 01:53 PM
This thread is giving me a headache ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 01:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: This thread is giving me a headache
Oh don`t worry that is just the strain of thinking you feel. You didn`t expect my Sag-Mercury to stay on topic though, did you?
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 3011 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 01:59 PM
It's just hard for me to process some of the information. I don't even know what parallel means And don't tell me Sag Mercuries can never stay on topic. I can if I try ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 02:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: It's just hard for me to process some of the information. I don't even know what parallel means And don't tell me Sag Mercuries can never stay on topic. I can if I try
Okay, you got me. I can, too. Occasionally. lol Parallel/ contraparallel is in the declination. When we are talking about degrees of planets, this means the longitudes. 13 degree Aries. For example. Every planet also has a declination, if the declination is the same, it is called parallel. For example my Sun has a declination of 23 degree South, if someone`s planet has a declination of 23 South, it is called parallel, if it is 23 North, it would be contraparallel. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 02:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by mir: Yes.. I'm aware of it now (btw, that's also a small orb you have).. I just read the lesser the orb between them the better or the less demons LOL.. But well, I actually wanted to find out the rrreal difference......I finally found this, THE ASTRONOMICAL VARIANTS OF THE LUNAR APOGEE - BLACK MOON http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/blackmoon/barycentric.html
Did not know that about being less demonic. I like that site, well it is kinda hard to wrap my head around, but it makes sense, if you get into it. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 3011 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 02:23 PM
Hecate bless you for leading me to the light ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 9492 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 02:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Hecate bless you for leading me to the light
feeling silly today? IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 3011 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 02:43 PM
No, I just probably have a crazy sense of humor ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |