posted November 01, 2013 04:15 PM            

OK, who's next???

I want to see more!

posted November 01, 2013 04:31 PM            

his bML conjunct her NN (1)

his Lilith square her Lilith/Priapus-mp (0)
her Priapus square his Lilith/Priapus-mp (2)

his Lilith antiscion her Priapos (0)

her LIlith square his Sun (1)
his Priapus conjunct her Sun 0)

his L/P square her NN (2)
her L/P conjunct his NN (3)

additionally:
his Priapus conjunct her SN (4)
her Priapus square his NN (3)

composite:

c-BML square c MC (3)
c-BML square c Sun/Moon (0)
c-Lilith square c MC (0)
c-Lilith square c Sun/Moon (3)

c-Lilith conjunct his Sun (2)
c-Priapus conjunct his L/P (3)
c-LP conjunct her Priapus (2)
c-Priapus square her NN (1)
c-L/P square his NN (1)

posted November 01, 2013 05:46 PM            

So the check up with Mr Laws chart
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my BML squares his BML 1°23
- actually, since BML is one end of the axis, it means that we have BML on each other`s true BML/Priapus-mp, as is the case with all squares to an axis

my Lilith squares his Lilith 1°18
(he is all Scorpio, I am all Aquarius)

my Priapus squres his Moon 2°13

my NN squares his Lilith/Priapus-mp 0°20

composite:
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c-Lilith opposite c-Priapus 3°16
(not that unusual though; even though they are not on an axis, Priapus does not move that far away from the opposing point (maybe 30 degrees)

as for the composite to natal, it is REALLY lopsided, which was to expected; I just would have expected it to be the other way round

c-PoF squares my BML 0°10
(so it means C PoF conjuncts my BML-true Priap-mp)
c-PoF squares my Lilith 0°50
(I always use the Day formula btw)

and that is it.

And now for the triggering of his chart:

c-BML conjunct his NN 3.34
c-Lilith conjunct his NN 3.16

c-Priapus conjunct his MC 2.00
c-Lilith/Priapus conjunct his IC 3.28

c-ASC square his Lilith/Priapus 1.45

c-Moon opposite his Priapus 2.03

c-PoF conjuncts his BML 1.33

posted November 01, 2013 05:58 PM            

my BML opposite his BML 0.24
- this means that BML is conjunct each others true Priapus as well

my Lilith conjuncts his Priapus 2.49

his Lilith/Priapus-mp conjuncts my NN 0.07

composite:
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° cBML squares c-PoF 0.59
- means Pof conjuncts the midpoint of BML and true Priapus

° c Pof conjuncts c-Lilith/Priapus 0°20

triggering of my natal (now I have a lot to type )

- c- BML squares my BML 0.11
(logical since we have BML opp. BML

° c-Lilith conjuncts my ASC 1.37

° c- Lilith conjuncts my NN 1.32

° c-Priapus squares my Moon 1.40

° c- Priapus conjuncts my Lilith/Priapus 1.24

° c-Lilith/Priapus conjuncts my Lilith 0.55

° c-DESC conjuncts my Priapos 0.54

° c-IC conjuncts my Lilith/Priapus 2.28

° c-Pof Conjuncts my BML 1.10

° c-PoF conjuncts my Lilith 0.30

triggering of his chart
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° c-BML squares his NN (2.56

° c-BML squares his BML 0.13

° c-Lilith conjuncts his Lilith/Priapus 1.24

° c-Lilith/Priapus conjuncts his Priapus 3.44

° c-PoF opposite his BML 0.46

° c-PoF conjuncts his Priapus 3.19

additionally

c-Antivertex conjuncts c-Lilith/Priapus
and c-Antivertex is also falling onto our natal Psyche-Psyche exactly.

posted November 01, 2013 06:09 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by page one:
"(I always use the Day formula btw)"

Why do you use the day formula, Ceri?
Do you find the results are more accurate?

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Yes.

And I donīt see the need for applying a different formula.
Why would we suddenly reverse the order of Sun and ASC?

The day formula also correlates with the secondary Moon of the secondary chart after Tobey

posted November 01, 2013 06:12 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Hi Lotis,

And when I started I so wanted to refuse taking these into consideration. NOt any mroe Liliths, please!

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I thought the same thing!

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
here (and read the article, read it even a dozen times, I find it difficult but it is very worth it if you really want to understand).
http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/blackmoon/barycentric.html
http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/riyal.html

If you put in your date and press continue, you can click on tables - astronomical data, and then you will see a long list, in which the True Apogee appears (Lilith) and below it is a number of the true Perigree-.

I am very certain about the value of true Lilith, I am still researching that of the natural/ interpolated Lilith and Priapus.

"Are they more or less always opposite each other very closely?"
True Lilith is always opposite true Priapus, within a degree at least.

"Also any theories as the what the interloped Lilith and Priapus symbolize if anything?"
all comes down to the question which calculation method we think is the right one.

http://www.mountainastrologer.com/standards/editor's%20choice/articles/lilith_ hunter/lilith.html

Taken this into consideration, it makes very much sense to me to see Lilith being in strong aspect (by that I mean, conjunction, opposition, square and maybe also antiscia(contrascia and parallel/contraparallel) to Sun, Moon herself and the nodal axis, even Sun/Moon-mp, as these all reflect the relationship between the Sun-Moon-Earth-complex in a way (though the ways may be different).

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posted November 02, 2013 01:39 AM            

"Sabian is:
10 SAg:
In The Left Section Of An Archaic Temple, A Lamp Burns In A Container Shaped Like A Human Body
(it always reminds me of Egypt for some reason)"

Yes, me too.
Interestingly, this sabian also showed up for the TF couple I know; both have very strong ties to Egypt and Isis/Osiris.
Their composite Osiris and the man's far Sun-Moon mp are at 10° Sag lol

"9 sag (his Mercury, Musa, my Neptune)
A Theatrical Representation Of A Golden-Haired Goddess Of Opportuinity"

LOL theres that theatre one again!

"But you seem to activate the Hekate-potential in myself, I mean that looking deep within there, where I usually would not look possibly."

Ah ok, makes a lot of sense..
Btw, my Pholus is at Virgo 8'50 also, looks like this amplifies the effect of my Sun on your Hekate!

"Did I already mention that Mr Sags Lilith is opposite my Juno and my Priapus is conjunct his Juno? lol"

posted November 02, 2013 06:30 AM            

Synastry:
~ His Lilith conjunct my Priapus 3°

Composite:
~ no conjunctions, oppositions, squares from BML/Lilith/Priapus to the luminaries/angles

Composite to my natal:
~ C. Lilith conjunct my Sun-Moon mp 0°
~ C. BML square my IC/MC 2°
~ C. Lilith square my IC/MC 2°
~ C. Priapus square my Pof 0°
~ C. Moon square my BML 2°
~ C. MC conjunct my Lilith 0°
~ C. Priapus-Lilith mp conjunct my Priapus 1°
~ C. Lilith conjunct my Priapus-Lilith mp 1°

Composite to his natal:
~ C. NN square his Priapus 3°
~ C. Pof opposite his Priapus 2°
~ C. Priapus-Lilith mp conjunct his BML 0°
~ C. Priapus-Lilith mp conjunct his Lilith 1°
~ C. Priapus conjunct his Priapus-Lilith mp 1°

Davison:
~ Priapus opposite Pof 1°
~ Priapus/Lilith mp square Moon 2°

Davison to my natal:
~ D. Priapus-Lilith mp square my Asc/Desc 1°
~ D. Priapus-Lilith mp square my Sun/Moon mp 2°
~ D. Moon square my BML 2°
~ D. IC conjunct my Lilith 0°
~ D. Pof square my Lilith 2°
~ D. Priapus widely square my Lilith 3°
~ D. Asc/Desc square my Priapus 0°

Davison to his natal:
~ D. Asc square his BML 1°
~ D. Asc widely square his Lilith 3°

Geez look at how much stronger my natal is triggered by our composite/davison far more than his

posted November 02, 2013 07:58 AM            

Synastry:
~ Her Sun-Moon mp conjunct his Priapus 1°
~ Her Priapus square his Pof 1°
~ Her Lilith-Priapus mp conjunct his Moon 1°
~ Her Lilith-Priapus mp widely conjunct his Asc 3°

~ His BML conjunct her Sun 1°
~ His Lilith conjunct his Sun 0°
~ His Sun-Moon mp square her Lilith-Priapus mp 2°
~ His Lilith-Priapus mp widely conjunct her NN 3°

Composite:
~ Moon widely square Lilith-Priapus mp 3°

Composite to her natal:
~ C. Sun square her Sun/Moon mp 0°
~ C. Lilith-Priapus mp widely conjunct her Asc 3°
~ C. BML conjunct her IC 3°
~ C. Lilith conjunct her IC 4°
~ C. Lilith conjunct her Pof 2°
~ C. Pof opposite her Priapus 0°

Composite to his natal:
~ C. Sun-Moon mp opposite his BML 2°
~ C. IC widely conjunct his BML 2°
~ C. IC widely conjunct his Lilith 4°
~ C. Sun square his Priapus 1°
~ C. Asc conjunct widely his Lilith-Priapus mp 3°

Davison:
~ Moon square Lilith-Priapus mp 2°

Davison to her natal:
~ D. Sun square her Sun-Moon mp 0°
~ D. Lilith-Priapus mp widely conjunct her Asc 3°
~ D. Lilith conjunct her MC 3°
~ D. Lilith opposite her Pof 3°
~ D. Sun widely opposite her Lilith 4°
~ D. Pof conjunct her Lilith-Priapus mp 2°

Davison to his natal:
~ D. Sun/Moon mp opposite his BML 2°
~ D. MC conjunct his BML 2°
~ D. MC widely conjunct his Lilith 4°
~ D. Sun square his Priapus 0°

posted November 02, 2013 09:13 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

BTW,
Were your progressed Lilith/Priapus midpoints triggered too at the time of your meeting?

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I just checked. And wow!

my natal
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pr Priapus square n Lilith/Priapus: 0°24:
n Priapos opposite pr Sun 0°09

(I was having pr Sun on 29.59 Cap and Moon had just entered 00 Taurus - new beginnings all around. lol)

his natal
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pr Lilith conjunct n DESC 0.37
A Boy With A Censer Serves The Priest Near The Altar

(hmm, getting a little sacral. lol)

pr LIlith opposite n PoF 1.04
pr Priapos opposite n BML 0.16

(I wonder why these Priapus - BML aspects always pop up; they are not of the same mold, different calculation method, but still they come up frequently)

pr Priapus conjunct pr SN 1.40 a

pr NN conjunct n BML 1.24 a
pr SN conjunct n Priapus 1.13 s

synastric
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my pr BML opposite his pr BML 1.11

my pr Lilith conjunct his pr Sun 1.25

my pr Lilith/Priapus conjunct his pr ASC 0.55
The sabian is pretty fierce
An Indian Warrior Riding Fiercely, Human Scalps Hanging From His Belt

his pr Priapos conjunct my n Lilith 0°00
!!!

his pr Lilith square my n SUn 0.19

posted November 02, 2013 09:30 AM            

pr Lilith square pr ASC 0.44

that is all. lol

composite to my natal
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c-Lilith conjunct my pr NN 0.11
Sabian of 8 Sag, my Atlantis-Sabian, also of course just about 1 and a half degree off my ASC

A Mother Leads Her Small Child Step By Step Up A Steep Stairway

c-Priapus square my pr Priapus 100

pr c-BML conjunct DESC 1.38
(usually I would deem that too wide for a progression, but hey, it was applying. lol
Oh no I am wrong, the b*tch was turning retograde again, so I checked actually it was exactly on my ASC -she leaps back and forth, too- the year we first layed eyes on each other. lol)

pr c BML square my pr BM 0.35

pr c Lilith square my pr Sun/Moon-mp 0.44

pr c LIlith/Priapos conjunct my pr Lilith 0.31

- diff. sabians though
L/P mp on 2 Pisces
Petrified Tree Trunks Lie Broken On Desert Sand

my pr Liith on 3 Pisces
Heavy Car Traffic On A Narrow Isthmus Linking Two Seashore Resorts

composite - his natal
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c-Sun square his pr Lilith 0.48

c-POF conjunct his pr Priapos 0.30

c-BML square his pr Priapus 0.29

c-L/P conjunct his pr Priapos 0.55

pr c-BML square his BML 0.36

pr c-Priapos conjucnt his pr ASC 1.49

(this also was exact when we first crossed paths 2 years before - )

pr c L/P conjunct his Priapus widely 2.04

c-BML square his pr NN 1.13

posted November 02, 2013 11:25 AM            

I again distill the first from your most recent comparison with birthmate as the most striking factor in the comparison.

With the next tf couple it's indeed the repetition of her Sun/Moon midpoint and his Priapus (conjunct in synastry) while the Composite & Davison Sun get the connection.

posted November 02, 2013 11:43 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mir:

Btw I suspect to have something in common with Ceri & birthmate, my Lilith/Priapus midpoint at 26'47 SAG

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Hey that is where our Sun is!

Oh and his Moon, MC and Sun/Moon-mp of course.

posted November 03, 2013 03:56 AM            

Wonderful configurations yet again, Ceridwen!
Thankyou for sharing!

"I was having pr Sun on 29.59 Cap and Moon had just entered 00 Taurus - new beginnings all around. lol"

Hm wow, I didn't know 0° in the progressions indicated new beginnings!

Interestingly in my progressions for when I'll move in 2015, I will have:
~ Pr. Sun at 28° Virgo moving into Libra
~ Pr. Asc at 29° Leo moving into Virgo

Right now my Pr. Moon is fresh into Aries at 0°11.
It is a kind of new beginning for me now in terms of "re-emerging" from my hiding and taking initiative/going after what I want.

posted November 03, 2013 04:19 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mir:
Lav.... I'm also very amazed by the synchronicity in both your en ceri's synastry/composite regarding that lilith/priapus phenomenon! And to not forget if I remember right.. conjunct Suns!

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posted November 03, 2013 11:46 AM            

To start with a not very inspiring couple;

Jodi Arias & Travis Alexander;

Lilith/Priapus (h21/h22);

- His lilith conj. her Moon (3'10)

- Her lilith/Priapus midpoint conjunct his priapus 2'40

- His lilith/Priapus midpoint conjunct COMPOSITE SN (0'30) + conj. COMPOSITE Moon (3)

Composite lilith/priapus midpoint = conj. Composite descendant (3'05)

Composite lilith/priapus midpoint = conj. Jodi's descendant (1'07)

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True Osc. lilith (h13);

- Her true lilith conjunct his true NN (0'27)

- COMPOSITE true lilith conjunct his true NN (wide 4'50)

posted November 03, 2013 11:58 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mir:
As long as this thread is still in the running I'll try to do one couple a day.

To start with a not very inspiring couple;

Jodi Arias & Travis Alexander;

Lilith/Priapus (h21/22);

- His lilith conj. her Moon (3'10)

- Her lilith/Priapus midpoint conjunct his priapus 2'40

- His lilith/Priapus midpoint conjunct COMPOSITE SN (0'30) + conj. COMPOSITE Moon (3)

Composite lilith/priapus midpoint = conj. Composite descendant (3'05)

Composite lilith/priapus midpoint = conj. Jodi's descendant (1'07)

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True Osc. lilith (h13);

- Her true lilith conjunct his true NN (0'27)

- COMPOSITE true lilith conjunct his true NN (wide 4'50)

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posted November 03, 2013 11:59 AM            

how about you read the information and try to apply it to the chart yourself?