posted October 28, 2013 10:57 AM            

However even with that hypothesis in mind I am surprised that it seems to really always be there (using, angles, nodal axis, planets, BML and Priapus and Vertex, not asteroids).

posted October 28, 2013 11:36 AM            

(1) Banderas - Griffith
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her mean and true LIlith conjunct his ASC
her Mercury and Venus conjunct his NN

his Mercury conjunct her IC
his Priapus conjunct her MC

(2) Pitt - Jolie
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her Sun conjunct his DESC
her Neptune conjunct his ASC
her Vertex conjunct his ASC

his Vertex conjunct her ASC

(3) Diego Rivera - FRida Kahlo
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his MOon and Neptune conjunct her MC
his Saturn conjunct her NN

(4) Frank Sinatra - Ava Gardner
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his Neptune and MC conjunct her ASC

(5) Johnny Cash - June Carter (her bt unknown)
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her Saturn conjunct his MC
his Chiron conjunct her NN

posted October 28, 2013 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I didn't even find Priapus on astro, only Priamus.

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Plug in "h22".

posted October 28, 2013 12:32 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
I dunno about BML or Priapus but nope, every relationship synastry I've ever seen had some sort of angle or node conjunction. Conjunctions between angles and/or nodes sound incredibly enticing...

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posted October 28, 2013 12:42 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
I dunno about BML or Priapus but nope, every relationship synastry I've ever seen had some sort of angle or node conjunction. Conjunctions between angles and/or nodes sound incredibly enticing...

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Same here,
Every serious/destined/karmic/soulmate type of synastry I've seen tends to ALWAYS have the personal planets/angles/points/nodes aspecting eachother (and Saturn/Neptune/Pluto too usually) tightly.

posted October 28, 2013 12:54 PM            

1) Romantic: male - female
• Venus conjunct DSC 0
• SN conjunct Lilith 0
• NN conjunct MC 1
• DSC conjunct Neptune 0

2) Friendship: male - female
• Jupiter conjunct MC 1
• NN conjunct DSC 0
• ASC conjunct IC 0
• Liilth conjunct ASC 0
• MC conjunct Mercury 0
• MC conjunct Venus 0
• ASC conjunct Lilith 1

3) Marriage (10 years, 1 child): male - female
• DSC conjunct Neptune 2
• NN conjunct Vertex 0

4) Marriage (9 years, 2 children), birth time unknown for him, known for her) But they do have Sun - Moon conjunction.
• Mars conjunct IC 0
• Chiron conjunct SN 1
• SN conjunct Lilith 1

5) Stormy, but short love affair: male - female
• Sun conjunct IC 0
• NN conjunct Venus 0
• SN conjunct Neptune 2
• MC conjunct Mars 1

posted October 28, 2013 01:02 PM            

(6) Laurence Olivier - Vivien Leigh
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her Saturn conjunct his ASC
her Moon conjunct his MC
her Mars-Neptune conjunct his NN

his Moon conjunct her SN
his Saturn conjunct her NN

(7) Paul Mc Cartney - Linda Eastman
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her Neptune conjunct his ASC
her NN conjunct his ASC
her Jupiter conjunct his MC
her VX widely conjunct his MC (4 degree)

his Moon conjunct her MC
his Avx conjunct her NN

(8) Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward
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her Saturn widely conjunct his ASC (4)
her Pluto widely conjunct his DESC (4)
her ASC conjunct his ASC
her NN widely conjunct his MC (4)
her Chiron conjunct his IC
her Mercury conjunct his SN
her Mars conjunct his SN

his Mercury conjunct her ASC
his VEnus conjunct her ASC
his Jupiter conjunct her ASC
his Pluto conjunct her DESC
his true Lilith conjunct her DESC

(9) Pierre Curie - Marie Curie
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her Moon conjunct his ASC
her NN conjunct his DESC
her IC conjunct his ASC
her Priapus conjunct his IC
her Jupiter conjunct his NN

his Sun conjunct her DESC

(10) Richard Burton. Liz Taylor
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(his bt is unverified/ conflicting though)

his Mercury conjunct her ASC

her Saturn conjunct his SN
her Vertex conjunct his NN

possibly:
her NN conjunct his ASC (wide)
her Priapus conjunct his DESC

(11) Robert Browning - Elizabeth Barrett Browning
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her Mercury conjunct his SN

his Venus conjunct her MC
his Jupiter conjunct her SN
his Saturn conjunct her NN

(12) Spencer Tracey - Katherine Hepburn
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her Sun conjunct his IC wide (4)
her Priapus conjunct his SN
her NN conjunct his IC wide (4)

(13) Tom Hanks - Rita Wilson
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her Venus conjunct his ASC
her Jupiter conjunct his ASC
her MC conjunct his ASC

his NN conjunct her ASC
his Mars conjunct her IC wide (4)
his Saturn conjnct her NN

(14) William Randolph Hearst - Marion Davies
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her Saturn and Uranus conjunct his DESC
her true Lilith conjunct his ASC
her Priapus conjunct his DESC
her Mercury conjunct his MC
her Vertex conjunct his IC

his Priapus widely conjunct her DESC (4)

(15) ERic Clapton - Patty Boyd
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her NN conjunct his MC wide (4)

his Saturn conjunct her DESC
his Pluto conjunct her NN

posted October 28, 2013 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Btw Ceridwen,

Would you count mirror points and declinations to the angles & nodal axis as strong/valid indicators too?

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Yes, I would, I was just too lazy to check them.

AS of now I would consider conjunctions/ Oppositions, declinations and mirrorpoints to be the "hook", the starting point, with the other aspects to these points modifying.

Like you know if someone`s Mars is conjunct oyur ASC, something`s cooking. However, to see how it will be expressed or experienced, the other aspects come into play. But these are the starting the meeting points.

posted October 28, 2013 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:

BML/Priapus I've found only in those smouldering, "too-hot-to-touch" kind of unions, where the desire to stay joined at the hip and consume/be consumed by one another is very strong.
They weren't that strong in the more low-key, subtle, less passionate type of soulmate relationships though.

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Yes, Iam surprised as to how reliably thesse seem to figure in (though they can be emotionally exhausting too), considering noone really seems to pay attention to them, especially in the case of Priapus I am quite stunned (I was aware of the significance of BML before).

But it sort of makes sense to me, as these are points calculated on the basis of lunar-solar relationship (in a way comparable to the nodal axis, just a different calculation, but they all refer back to the solar-lunar-polarity in reference to Earth. Body, soul and spirit).

posted October 28, 2013 01:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Yes, I would, I was just too lazy to check them.

AS of now I would consider conjunctions/ Oppositions, declinations and mirrorpoints to be the "hook", the starting point, with the other aspects to these points modifying.

Like you know if someone`s Mars is conjunct oyur ASC, something`s cooking. However, to see how it will be expressed or experienced, the other aspects come into play. But these are the starting the meeting points.

Just what iam thinking as of now.

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Yes, that's what I think too.
I've seen them pop up too many times in significant relationships/connections to be considered as minor or weak.

posted October 28, 2013 01:19 PM            

(1) my parents (married for 39 years)
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her Venus conjunct his ASCh
her Mars conjunct his ASC widely (4)
her Priapus conjunct his IC wide (4)
her Jupiter conjunct his NN
her SAturn conjunct his SN

(2) my friend and her psycho-exboyfriend
(dated for a year, it never got off the ground properly, he managed to abuse her emotionally and verbally nevertheless)
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her Moon conjunct his SN
her Priapus conjunct his NN
(she very much wanted to merge with him, he just couldn´t deliver )

his Sun widely conjunct her ICX (4)
his Chiron conjunct her SN

(3) my friend and her husband (married for 8 years, together for 13)
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his Uranus conjunct her NN
his Sun conjunct her DESC
his ASC conjunct her DESC

(4) my brother and his gf (7 years)
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her Sun conjunct his ASC
her Moon conjunct his DESC
her Neptune conjunct his MC
her Neptune conjunct his SN

his Pluto widely conj. her DESC (4-5)
his Moon conjunct her SN
his Jupiter conjunct her SN
his Uranus conjunct her SN

posted October 28, 2013 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
posting as an example!

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Wow! Whose is this?

Venus, Moon, Sun, Mercury, ASC on DESC
NN on desc the other way round

In the very least these people should take strong notice of each other!

posted October 28, 2013 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
I took a quick look at my significant relationships, not only romantic, but friendship as well. Yes, indeed, angle and nodal action is always present.

1) Romantic: male - female
• Venus conjunct DSC 0
• SN conjunct Lilith 0
• NN conjunct MC 1
• DSC conjunct Neptune 0

2) Friendship: male - female
• Jupiter conjunct MC 1
• NN conjunct DSC 0
• ASC conjunct IC 0
• Liilth conjunct ASC 0
• MC conjunct Mercury 0
• MC conjunct Venus 0
• ASC conjunct Lilith 1

3) Marriage (10 years, 1 child): male - female
• DSC conjunct Neptune 2
• NN conjunct Vertex 0

4) Marriage (9 years, 2 children), birth time unknown for him, known for her) But they do have Sun - Moon conjunction.
• Mars conjunct IC 0
• Chiron conjunct SN 1
• SN conjunct Lilith 1

5) Stormy, but short love affair: male - female
• Sun conjunct IC 0
• NN conjunct Venus 0
• SN conjunct Neptune 2
• MC conjunct Mars 1

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Thank you very much.

posted October 28, 2013 01:28 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Wow! Whose is this?

Venus, Moon, Sun, Mercury, ASC on DESC
NN on desc the other way round

In the very least these people should take strong notice of each other!

(I am never sure who is paying the attention, the angle or the planet person, I still am figuring this one out, though I have also had the suspicion that it might also depend on who adds the more receptive points/ planets instead of simply stating it is the planet or angle person)

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posted October 28, 2013 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
My synastry with my s.o.
Even though we are not technically compatible, we're so into each other.
It feels karmic..

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Why do you eel you are not compatible?

posted October 28, 2013 03:21 PM            

Air dominant with a Water dominant, but like lotis mentioned it's a polarity between masculine feminine- yin/yang.
Anyways I think we balance each other out.

You're right it's super charged and a mutually obsessive.
I think all the action between the angles is causing it.
I can honestly gush for hours but I will save you from that, this person is a big deal to me it's disgusting..

posted October 28, 2013 03:27 PM            

His Mercury conjunct her MC 3°
His Venus widely-conjunct her MC 4°
His Chiron conjunct her IC 2°
His Chiron antiscia her Asc 0°
His IC parallel her NN
His IC parallel her Vertex
His Saturn contra-parallel her Vertex
His Saturn parallel her SN
His Pluto parallel her NN

Her IC conjunct his Vertex 1°
Her Venus conjunct his Asc 1°
Her Saturn conjunct his Vertex 1°
Her Saturn antiscia his Asc 1°
He Venus antiscia his NN 1°
Her Sun parallel his SN
Her Venus parallel his Asc
Her Venus parallel his NN
Her Pluto parallel his Desc

Couple 2:
~ Best friends since childhood, just became a couple, they have one child together.
(Guy's birth time unknown)

His Sun widely-conjunct her Desc 4°
His Jupiter conjunct her Desc 0°
His Neptune conjunct her Asc 0°
His Priapus conjunct her Asc 2°
His Saturn widely-conjunct her NN 4°
His Sun parallel her Desc
His Moon parallel her IC
His Jupiter parallel her Asc

posted October 28, 2013 03:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, Iam surprised as to how reliably thesse seem to figure in (though they can be emotionally exhausting too), considering noone really seems to pay attention to them, especially in the case of Priapus I am quite stunned (I was aware of the significance of BML before),

But it sort of makes sense to me, as these are points calculated on the basis of lunar-solar relationship (in a way comparable to the nodal axis, just a different calculation, but they all refer back to the solar-lunar-polarity in reference to Earth. Body, soul and spirit)."

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Lol maybe if we get talking about Priapus enough, others will research it further as well and write their insights on it!

posted October 28, 2013 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
In a primordial sense right?

Air dominant with a Water dominant, but like lotis mentioned it's a polarity between masculine feminine- yin/yang.
Anyways I think we balance each other out.

You're right it's super charged and a mutually obsessive.
I think all the action between the angles is causing it.
I can honestly gush for hours but I will save you from that, this person is a big deal to me it's disgusting..

My yoga intructor saw us at the park and mentioned how our auras brighten when our body makes contact.. and his dogs aura was dim.. so I believe her.
I hate that dog...

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I honestly don´t think that Air and Water are incompatible, perhaps generally speaking, but think of it, like Lotis meant it, too, probably, it is the so called incompatible elements that combine masculine and feminine, Yin and Yang.
Makes one wonder, hm?

Your auras brightening is a big deal, at least I think so. Definitely a sign you ARE compatible energetically, which is why you probably are magnetized to each other that much.

My parents shouldn´t be compatible either. My Dad has Sun, Venus and Jupiter in Aquarius, Mars in Libra.
My Mum has Sun, Mercury in Scorpio, ASC in Cancer, Moon, Venus and Mars in Virgo.

(of course they have some meeting points, but that is another topic).

They are quite different from each other, and yet one of the most compatible couples I have ever seen.
Scorpio and Aquarius need each other anyway.

However, I do think though that there are some briding points needed, too, or there will be only electricity, but no real way to communicate on a level. I am sure though you have that. But it does not come with the elements only, but with the planets.
Mercury is a good bridging one too.

But yes, looking at your synastry there is a lot f magnetism there of polarities or complementaries.

posted October 28, 2013 04:46 PM            

Well, while looking for pieces on Priapus, I found this post here.

"llan
February 29, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Wanted to share with you a paper I wrote a long time ago…..

Priapus, look up him astrologically with Lilith to get a complete
understanding. The asteroid was named after a lil girl named lilith.

I have been studying Lilith and the other asteroid goddesses for quite
sometime. My friend from Belgium taught me something interesting that
I would like to share with the rest of you, and see if it also applies
to you all (That area of the world always has been on a different wave
length of astrology then English speaking countries).

Lilith works on an axis, the opposite point is known as Priapus (I use
the Janus the astrology program myself, and in fact it always list
Priapus opposite to Black Moon Lilith, not Asteroid one). This
opposite point is what you do in your daily life, and have no-way out
of doing it. It’s always played out. In the myth of Priapus, his penis
was so huge that it scared woman away, and punished male thieves by
using sodomy on them!!!

Priapus, god of virility and fertility, was the Greek and Roman
protector of gardens, vineyards, and orchards. Depicted with enormous
genitals, he ensured fertility and good fortune. His statue served as
both scarecrow and guardian divinity. He was, moreover, the patron of
all in need of luck, especially men and women in search of sexual
satisfaction. Although he is generally depicted as heterosexual in his
tastes, Priapus numbered among his devotees men who were attracted to other men (go figure).

His parents are Dionysus, God of Sex, Wine and Intoxication, and
Aphrodite, Goddess of Love, and brother to Hymenaeus, God of Weddings and Getting Married. When you think of the relationship between all of them, you can see a common thread. OVER THE TOP kind of deal…

Now I don’t know too much about it, so I’m trying to see how this god
and Lilith matches up. Lilith is kicked out of the garden; Priapus is
denied love because his penis is too big…guess penis envy, size,
wasn’t too important…

Use the intuitive noodle, because not too much is written about this
subject, I would love any ones option or feedback. Anyways personal
option to me is just as valid as some “quote on quote” expert that
writes an article and uses fancy design to make it appealing to the
eye. That’s why when I read a lot of these astrology articles; I
remember first and foremost… most of it isn’t based off of research,
but of option, and…REMEMBER THAT!!

It says that Lilith is the point of fascination,where a person feels
the emotional urge to grow beyond themselves. It`s the point where a
person has much power, but often decides to suppress the power. Or she exaggerates the urge to be independent, which often forces her to be distant to other people.

Priapus now is a point, where you feel rather powerless. But at this
point you have a strong capability and longing to merge with others,
to feel for them, to develop empathy and basically it`s the point
where you can adapt to others to the point of losing yourself.

Priapus is also the god of health and fertility (son of Venus and
Bacchus / Dionysos). And it seems, according to mythology, he was
having a constant erection. Well, what could you expect of a God, who
is son of the goddess of erotic love and the god of extasy? lol
But I think it just symbolizes that he is very much in touch with the
earth, with all instincts, with a strong desire to merge and become
ONE with earth / life.

Maybe the difference between Lilith and Priapus is like this:
Both are driven by very strong desires.
But Lilith demands to be equal, independent, to voluntarily turn to
someone, or else she will repell or be repelled. She can`t make any
compromises. In the best sense she`s painfully truthful, and she makes
great sacrifices (like being rejected from society) to maintain her
independence.

Priapos on the other hand has such a great need to merge, that he will
sacrifice the truth for it. He will make any compromises that are
necessary to be close to someone. But since PRiapos is also a male
God, he seems to be also prone to become sexually violent or absusive,
to force closeness to his “object of affection”.

At least the myth tell about him attempting to rape at least two
goddesses / nymphs. But every time the rape has been interrupted,
before it could be done, and Priapus has been kicked out.
He is a nasty little god, isn`t he? At least in the myth.
But on the positive side he has a very direct access to his fertility and lust.

I`m not really sure what to make of it astrologically. But maybe
Priapus depicts a point in the horoscope where there is an
overwhelming urge to merge, which may become so overwhelming and
desperate that you may humilate yourself, by committing really low
acts (be they destructive towards others as in an attempted rape. or
be they selfdestructive, by “offering” yourself, even if you know that
you will never get back enough, so that you will be satisfied; the
willingness to live a lie just to feel the illusion of merging.)

But I think there must also be a positive way to see Priapus and
Lilith. Maybe Priapus can offer that empathy like it has been said in
that article I mentioned." http://www.leahwhitehorse.com/2012/01/29/black-moon-lilith-mean-***** -or-true-witch/

He wrote it was from a paper her wrote; actually the latter part of his essay is literally taken from a post of mine here!
Well, if people start stealing my words, then I suppose I must have hit a nerve with what I wrote. AT least in this guy.