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sambam
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posted April 27, 2014 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha! I like you! Lol

To read some of these comments you'd think I should be wearing a scarlet letter. I'm not saying I made all the right decisions that night but damn...really??

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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Who is making up these rules?!?!?! Me and M kissed on the first date and every other date after that. Lucky that's all I did with those long legs of his. I had to go back to work.


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posted April 27, 2014 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sambam:
Haha! I like you! Lol

To read some of these comments you'd think I should be wearing a scarlet letter. I'm not saying I made all the right decisions that night but damn...really??


Why are you taking it this way??
It's as if you posted the question to know what's wrong with HIM, and not what you could have done better.

You've already decided you made all the right moves that night and there's nothing more to learn for you.

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posted April 27, 2014 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's fine...I just find these rules extremely outdated. Maybe they work for some people vut my ex and I made out on our 1st date and we were together for five great years until he moved back to France. I find these 1940 ideals pretty stuffy. Should I have been in his bed at 3am? Probably not but no kissing on a 1st but definitely on the second? These rules are not my style...at all
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sorry if I seemed judgmental, that was not my intention. You asked for an opinion, and this is my honest opinion, astrologically and otherwise. I was trying to explain to you what I think happened in his mind. The point is not to feel guilty or judged, but to try different things next time for different results.

And sorry again if I seemed preachy or judgmental I did the same mistakes myself, that's how I learned.


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posted April 27, 2014 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's fine...I just find these rules extremely outdated. Maybe they work for some people vut my ex and I made out on our 1st date and we were together for five great years until he moved back to France. I find these 1940 ideals pretty stuffy. Should I have been in his bed at 3am? Probably not but no kissing on a 1st but definitely on the second? These rules are not my style...at all
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sorry if I seemed judgmental, that was not my intention. You asked for an opinion, and this is my honest opinion, astrologically and otherwise. I was trying to explain to you what I think happened in his mind. The point is not to feel guilty or judged, but to try different things next time for different results.

And sorry again if I seemed preachy or judgmental I did the same mistakes myself, that's how I learned.


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posted April 27, 2014 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sambam:
It's fine...I just find these rules extremely outdated. Maybe they work for some people vut my ex and I made out on our 1st date and we were together for five great years until he moved back to France. I find these 1940 ideals pretty stuffy. Should I have been in his bed at 3am? Probably not but no kissing on a 1st but definitely on the second? These rules are not my style...at all

Trust me, they still work... I recommend a book called "Why Men Love Bishes"

It doesn't mean it can't work either way, if kissing whenever you feel like is your style, go with it!

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posted April 27, 2014 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because that's how I feel?! It's nit about pointing fingers as I've clearly stated numerous times that I could've done A Lot differently. However this no kissing on a first date B.S is ooutdated and completely silly in my opinion. And last I checked I am infact entitled to that! It's not about what's wrong with him at all but thanks for completely misunderstanding and jumping to your own conclusions....
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Why are you taking it this way??
It's as if you posted the question to know what's wrong with HIM, and not what you could have done better.

You've already decided you made all the rights moves that night and there's nothing more to learn for you.


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posted April 27, 2014 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever works for you my dear. One way isn't always the only way...kinda what makes us individuals. And yes,if it suits me I will. Thanks for your input
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Trust me, they still work... I recommend a book called "Why Men Love Bishes"

It doesn't mean it can't work either way, if kissing whenever you feel like is your style, go with it!


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posted April 27, 2014 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sambam:
Because that's how I feel?! It's nit about pointing fingers as I've clearly stated numerous times that I could've done A Lot differently. However this no kissing on a first date B.S is ooutdated and completely silly in my opinion. And last I checked I am infact entitled to that! It's not about what's wrong with him at all but thanks for completely misunderstanding and jumping to your own conclusions....

Look, sambam, please don't feel judged, don't get defensive, it's not my intention. I thought you wanted to know why he reacted like that, there's an explanation for that and everyone tried to give his/her opinion, me included. Chances are that's why he behaves like that, but if you don't believe it, then don't believe it. Maybe I'm wrong.

And it's not about 1940 or rules, and of course you are "entitled", it's about seduction. And seduction is timeless.

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posted April 27, 2014 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Whatever works for you my dear. One way isn't always the only way...kinda what makes us individuals. And yes,if it suits me I will. Thanks for your input

My dear, when you ask for an opinion, everyone gives what they got and they are subjective. There's no point in saying "why you have this opinion, it is outdated, it's not what I like to hear". The intention was to help because your thread says "help". And everyone does their best to give an advice, that you're not supposed to criticize, just to take it or leave it.

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posted April 27, 2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sambam:
Haha! I like you! Lol

To read some of these comments you'd think I should be wearing a scarlet letter. I'm not saying I made all the right decisions that night but damn...really??


First of all, this thread was about Leo men and him wanting to jump you on the first date should not be taken as a sign of comfort, emotion, or anything.
And while I am not in the business of divulging my lover's inner thoughts even anonymously, he did express the desire for emotional intimacy along with the physical.

I have my thoughts about your date, but you didn't ask me all that, so as we say in slang, I'm gonna "fall back" and answer the question asked.

You're asking for Linda Goodman, not Mother Love everybody has something stuck up their a**es today.

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posted April 27, 2014 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You were not the only one w/ a viewpoint opposite of mine. I did not ask you why anything. I simply said I found it judgmental. That being said this back and forth serves no purpose so I'd like to drop this conversation with you. Thanks again for your input.

Best

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
My dear, when you ask for an opinion, everyone gives what they got and they are subjective. There's no point in saying "why you have this opinion, it is outdated, it's not what I like to hear". The intention was to help because your thread says "help". And everyone does their best to give an advice, that you're not supposed to criticize, just to take it or leave it.

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posted April 27, 2014 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha,I hear you. I don't mind that people have their opinions but when it comes off so preachy,and self righteous it's extremely annoying. Anyways,thanks for your input :-)
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First of all, this thread was about Leo men and him wanting to jump you on the first date should not be taken as a sign of comfort, emotion, or anything.
And while I am not in the business of divulging my lover's inner thoughts even anonymously, he did express the desire for emotional intimacy along with the physical.

I have my thoughts about your date, but you didn't ask me all that, so as we say in slang, I'm gonna "fall back" and answer the question asked.

You're asking for Linda Goodman, not Mother Love everybody has something stuck up their a**es today.


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mir
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posted April 27, 2014 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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but it seems that in this case, such interpretation does not matter, as the boy has some growing up to do.
I think it is evident that he is mostly curious about his sexual activities with you than anything else.

This is IT. I'm a Leo myself but a middle-aged one now I suppose haha. I see what's he's doing en what I did myself back then. All the attention afterwards is just to simply satisfy his EGO. "OK, so she IS into me" (if he got any doubt about the sexual refusal).

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posted April 27, 2014 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:

You're asking for Linda Goodman, not Mother Love everybody has something stuck up their a**es today.


I suppose this is a conclusion after checking yourself in the mirror today, LoadedPistil?

On another note, I find it completely ridiculous to say this "Leo" man "jumped" the girl, he invited her to his place, she said yes, he obviously tried his luck there, as it is in the normal order of things. How is this "jumping" someone?

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posted April 27, 2014 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Makes sense. Do you think cutting communication for a while is cold then?

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This is IT. I'm a Leo myself but a middle-aged one now I suppose haha. I see what's he's doing en what I did myself back then. All the attention afterwards is just to simply satisfy his EGO. "OK, so she IS into me" (if he got any doubt about the sexual refusal).

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posted April 27, 2014 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The double standards are hilarious! I find it hilarious that we were BOTH intoxicated but he was just "trying his luck which is natural" and I should've just known better? In 2014 this is stunning...lol

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posted April 27, 2014 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The double standards are hilarious! I find it hilarious that we were BOTH intoxicated but he was just "trying his luck which is natural" and I should've just known better? In 2014 this is stunning...lol

Jesus..I know you "politely" invited me to drop the issue, but you're just adorably provocative with your defensiveness.

After all, your thread turned into an interesting topic.

What is this, a feminist protest or what? (BTW, I am a feminist myself)

But these things STILL work, men still see things this way, they still feel like this, they still try their luck, men are still men. Don't we love them for that? It will be nice to overthrow this double standard in the near future, but it's not done yet.

You want reality or utopia?

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posted April 27, 2014 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tell me honestly, sambam, when you told him you don't want him to try to have sex with you, did you really believe he wasn't going to try?

You knew he would try, this is how the game works and you know it. And probably, if he hadn't tried, you would have thought there's something wrong with him How's that for a double standard?

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posted April 27, 2014 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For YOU!!! They work for you! Your way is not necessarily the only way. I don't need utopia but your reality isn't everyones. My ex and I were together for 5yrs before he moved back to France and your rules didn't get me there.

I'm not saying it doesn't work but it isn't for everyone and guess what? That's Ok! It doesn't have to be a fight or an issue. It's legitimately ok that we don't all see eye to eye. It's what makes the world go round. I don't care if you are a feminist,housewife etc. I'm saying how I feel which somehow seems to upset you. We don't have to agree and your way isn't always right. So if it still works for you? Great!

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Jesus..I know you "politely" invited me to drop the issue, but you're just adorably provocative with your defensiveness.

After all, your thread turned into an interesting topic.

What is this, a feminist protest or what? (BTW, I am a feminist myself)

But these things STILL work, men still see things this way, they still feel like this, they still try their luck, men are still men. Don't we love them for that? It will be nice to overthrown this double standard in the near future, but it's not done yet.

You want reality or utopia?


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posted April 27, 2014 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sambam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyways,back to ASTROLOGY. lol

Does Jupiter conjunct Asc mean anything or is that not really an aspect that matters? I couldn't find much online about it?

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posted April 27, 2014 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I suppose this is a conclusion after checking yourself in the mirror today, LoadedPistil?

On another note, I find it completely ridiculous to say this "Leo" man "jumped" the girl, he invited her to his place, she said yes, he obviously tried his luck there, as it is in the normal order of things. How is this "jumping" someone?


She didn't ask you for all that and politely asks you to drop the subject, so you need to avert your uninvited energy on sexual behavior onto someone else. It won't be me, doll!

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posted April 27, 2014 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not upset. You seem upset.
First of all, they are not "my rules", they are some sort of collective "wisdom" on the matter, which you find outdated and unrealistic, which is fine with me. You know they are "collective" and I didn't invent them and you don't even know if I live by them, that's not the point.

The problem I have now with this thread is that there's a lot of hypocrisy. The girl does everything to arouse the man, she even sleeps in his bed, and now we accuse him of "jumping" her and we don't understand why he behaves awkward or upset or hurt or ego-whatever. I find this to be a double standard as strong as the one you mentioned.

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posted April 27, 2014 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It won't be me, doll!



Than you shouldn't try to gratuitously offend people.

And there's no need to offend the girl too, she can take a conversation on any topic without you being the spokesperson, doll

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posted April 27, 2014 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Anyways,back to ASTROLOGY. lol

Does Jupiter conjunct Asc mean anything or is that not really an aspect that matters? I couldn't find much online about it?


This is fun, excitement and attraction like being at an amusement park. You'll have a lot of fun when you're together.

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posted April 27, 2014 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoadedPistil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Than you shouldn't try to gratuitously offend people.

And there's no need to offend the girl too, she can take a conversation on any topic without you being the spokesperson, doll


Invoking a common enemy...
Mob psychology...

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