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Topic: Cancer absolutely confused by Leo Man! help! lol
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sambam
Knowflake Posts: 116
From: new york,ny
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted April 27, 2014 03:17 PM
  
Let's start by saying I am a cancer woman with an Aquarius moon,venus and mercury in cancer ,mars in leo and ASC in Aries. I recently went on an amazing 1st date with a leo man who's sun and moon in Leo conjunct my mars and oppose my Aqua moon. His virgo Venus sextiles my cancer Venus and mercury.We met online and had an amazing 1st date last week.end. He was attentive,manly,funny and just my complete ideal. He's Russian and im Haitian btw...while on the date he couldn't stop talking about my eyes,thick black hair and dark.skin. He asked me what my parents would say if I brought him home to which I replied that my stepdad is white and no one in my family would care. He said his family is from Moscow and neither would they. We laughed about everything under the sun. When the bill came,I peaked while he wasn't looking and realized he'd just dropped almost $400 on a meal for two! It was a very nice place in nyc but I felt bad and found it a bit excessive. After dinner he wanted to go get more drinks so we did. I offered to buy the 1st round to which he seemed utterly offended by. Once again wr laughed talked and just had a blast. It was almost 3am by this point and I live in queens near the Long Island border. He asked me to come home with him. Because it was too late and he wouldn't feel comfortable with me heading home in my dress. I said ok but ge has to promise to be respectful and that we were not having sex. He laughed and said deal. We put on a movie while at his house and he got a few beers out of the fridge. Movie turned into a heated makeout session so I said wr should go to bed and I should take the couch. He said no but he promises not to touch me. We talked for about an hour before I turned over to sleep. We cuddled,he tried to get some and I playfully refused. He pouted,tried and tried until I threatened to leave. He apologized and turned over. The next morning we woke up playing and he tried again. He got so upset when I refused,it's almost like he took it personally. I told him that I like him a lot but don't want to ruin things. He huffed and puffed a bit then we wen back to laughing. He walked me to the train and gave me a kiss. He asked me if I liked our date,I said yes and asked the question to him. He smiled and said he's still "thinking about this experience". We kissed and I got on the train.About an hour later nohe texted me to see if I made it home safe. I told him that I was at my friends house,still in bk and we were going to do brunch. He said ok but sounded very short. We texted a bit later and then i decided to call him. He was very playful and silly anf then I heard his friends in the back and he got all machismo saying "I'm betting with the guys,I have to go,call you back. Bye". He hung up and I just ignored it. Then he texted me saying that he noticed I had champagne without him (referring to an instagram pic I posted of my friend and I holding bellinis.)The next two days he goes cold,I text him bith days and he responds right away but keeps it short. I ask him if he no longer wants to speak which I now recognize is super defensive. Ge texts me saying "relax! I don't feel well. I'll call you tonight". He doesn't so I gnore him. Two days later he texts me "how are you? What's new?" I said no much,he texts thathe is watching a hockey game. I said have fun and that was it.This morning I call him and he picks up the phone with a very stern "Yes". I choose to ignore his attitude and be sweet. He says he's at work and has to go. I said no problem,enjoy your day.He calls me 15mins later and says what'sup? I said nothing,I was making breakfast,I thought of you and was saying hi. He said he called back because he thought it was an emergency and he's working late. I said no problem and then he said he'll call me back around 3pm. I feel like he likes me but he's sooo machismo it's hard to tell. He comes off so harsh and dictatorial sometimes. His sun and moon is in my 5th house,my aqua moon is opposite his leo moon and sun. His Virgo Venus sextiles my cancer sun,moon,and mercury. His sun and moon also conjunct my mars and trine my aries ascendant. Based on our synastry and what I've said what do you guys think?P.s excuse the typos. Courtesy of my phone : )Any feedback would be great. I've never been with a Leo man...IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
Knowflake Posts: 313
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted April 27, 2014 03:39 PM
I guess he was thinking
"oh wow I spent 500 dollars on this girl, I better be rewarded"
Such thought or attempt can be viewed fair by many I guess, but i assume he is the one who asked you out and he is the one who chose the place. If so, this suggests that you didn't necessarily ask him to be too generous, although you do appreciate it.Now here comes the problem, actions that he has made after such attempt is what I would call, immature, confused and, boyish/childish.
This guy is literally thinking to himself, "I didn't get what I wanted after all that investment I made, I don't know if I want to continue this".
Despite such thoughts, he has shown signs of clinginess, only when you showed signs of backing off, because he is 100% not sure of how things would play out.
This boy is very confused, and has absolutely zero idea of what he is doing.
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mir
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posted April 27, 2014 03:42 PM
I agree. Too many signs that you can't rely on him. I would be done with this one. IP: Logged |
sambam
Knowflake Posts: 116
From: new york,ny
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted April 27, 2014 03:46 PM
Yes,he did pick the place. I would never even suggest a man do that. Especially on our 1st date! I did appreciate the gesture but was very taken a back. It's like he wants me to chase him but when I ignore him ot act indifferent he comes back harder...idk... quote:
Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I guess he was thinking
"oh wow I spent 500 dollars on this girl, I better be rewarded"
Such thought or attempt can be viewed fair by many I guess, but i assume he is the one who asked you out and he is the one who chose the place. If so, this suggests that you didn't necessarily ask him to be too generous, although you do appreciate it.Now here comes the problem, actions that he has made after such attempt is what I would call, immature, confused and, boyish/childish.
This guy is literally thinking to himself, "I didn't get what I wanted after all that investment I made, I don't know if I want to continue this".
Despite such thoughts, he has shown signs of clinginess, only when you showed signs of backing off, because he is 100% not sure of how things would play out.
This boy is very confused, and has absolutely zero idea of what he is doing.
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Jo B
Knowflake Posts: 518
From: London, UK
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 27, 2014 03:48 PM
Sorry to sound a bit mean but don't you think "sleeping" with him in the same bed but not actually having sex was a bit of a tease for him. I mean, you'd made out heavily beforehand, you'd both obviously had a bit to drink. He may well think you had been teasing him. IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
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posted April 27, 2014 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Jo B:
Sorry to sound a bit mean but don't you think "sleeping" with him in the same bed but not actually having sex was a bit of a tease for him. I mean, you'd made out heavily beforehand, you'd both obviously had a bit to drink. He may well think you had been teasing him.
Her defense is that, she feels guilty about all the investment he had made
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sambam
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Registered: Jul 2012
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posted April 27, 2014 03:52 PM
I don't consider it mean at all. Maybe it's a valid point however we had both been drinking and hindsight is 20/20. Would I make the choice again? Probably not but its how it happened that night... quote:
Originally posted by Jo B:
Sorry to sound a bit mean but don't you think "sleeping" with him in the same bed but not actually having sex was a bit of a tease for him. I mean, you'd made out heavily beforehand, you'd both obviously had a bit to drink. He may well think you had been teasing him.
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Venusincap89
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posted April 27, 2014 04:00 PM
I am not sure if you have venus in aquarius or venus in cancer but if you do have venus in cancer, you are well matched with venus in virgo in theory
It is my understanding that venus in cancer, leo and virgo are best matched for each otherbut it seems that in this case, such interpretation does not matter, as the boy has some growing up to do.
I think it is evident that he is mostly curious about his sexual activities with you than anything else.
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sambam
Knowflake Posts: 116
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Registered: Jul 2012
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posted April 27, 2014 04:03 PM
Venus in Cancer. Also,im 26 going on 27 in july. He is 24 going on 25 in August. So yes,maybe maturity is playing a bigger role than I expected quote:
Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I am not sure if you have venus in aquarius or venus in cancer but if you do have venus in cancer, you are well matched with venus in virgo in theory
It is my understanding that venus in cancer, leo and virgo are best matched for each otherbut it seems thath in this case, such interpretation do not matter, as the boy has some growing up to do.
I think it is evident that he is mostly curious about his sexual activities with you than anything else.
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Venusincap89
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posted April 27, 2014 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Jo B:
Sorry to sound a bit mean but don't you think "sleeping" with him in the same bed but not actually having sex was a bit of a tease for him. I mean, you'd made out heavily beforehand, you'd both obviously had a bit to drink. He may well think you had been teasing him.
She has mars in leo, so it can be assumed that she wasn't necessarily teasing him, but she was in fact enjoying the heated moment herself. But I guess she wanted something meaningful IP: Logged |
Jo B
Knowflake Posts: 518
From: London, UK
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 27, 2014 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
She has mars in leo, so it can be assumed that she wasn't necessarily teasing him, but she was in fact enjoying the heated moment herself. But I guess she wanted something meaningful
hehe I have Mars in Leo too so I do identify with Sambam's situation. Sounds like you both got a bit carried away with the evening and just had a nice passionate time but he was probably a bit put out that he didn't get to 4th base with you. lol However, I would personally feel very awkward if a man spent that amount of money on a meal on our first date. I'd be feeling a little "bought", not courted. He obviously likes to flash his cash. I recognise the type since my father was Leo and used to like to impress with cash (buying drinks rounds for everyone, etc) (and my mother is also Cancer).  IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
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posted April 27, 2014 04:17 PM
Oh and I must also add... deduct significant amount of points from guys who tries to kiss you on the first date.
Faster the relationship heats up, higher the chances of it fizziling out. (But if he doesn't kiss you on the second date, thats a red flag too)
And less texting is also highly recommend. You have no idea what kind of body language he is making when you receieve a text from him. This leads you to the pain of trying to figure out his intentions, going back and forth (what a waste of time!!)IP: Logged |
sambam
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posted April 27, 2014 04:23 PM
Yea,I don't want to play games or elevate the situation but I really feel like putting him on ice for a bit. I think less texting is a good idea. The night after our date he said him and some friends were betting on a hockey game. He asked me to guesshow much. I said a thousand and he said no,ten thousand. I took it with a grain of salt but yes he's definitely flashy and seems to lead with his money. I'm not sure why as he's attractive,in shape,professional...really weirdIP: Logged |
sambam
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posted April 27, 2014 04:25 PM
And to be fair,I'm pretty sure I initiated the 1st kiss at the bar because he was so nervous and practically shaking when I hugged him. He was so shy to begin with that I almost saw him as harmless
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
Oh and I must also add... deduct significant amount of points from guys who tries to kiss you on the first date.
Faster the relationship heats up, higher the chances of it fizziling out. (But if he doesn't kiss you on the second date, thats a red flag too)
And less texting is also highly recommend. You have no idea what kind of body language he is making when you receieve a text from him. This leads you to the pain of trying to figure out his intentions, going back and forth (what a waste of time!!)
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Jo B
Knowflake Posts: 518
From: London, UK
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted April 27, 2014 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
Oh and I must also add... deduct significant amount of points from guys who tries to kiss you on the first date.
Kissing is alright, just not with tongues when you didn't invite it. lol IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil
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From: NJ, USA
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posted April 27, 2014 04:32 PM
A Leo will watch you from afar. We want to know EVERYTHING about the person we're dating. If he's stalking you, he's interested.
Leo men are not to proud to beg. It's an ego thing. They want the victory. Don't take this as a sign of desire or obsession because it's not a measure of their interest.
Bottom line: he was out of line.
Leo men are extraordinarily immature. He knew he was wrong barking at you in the phone and because he's into you, he got worried it was too harsh and wanted to make sure you were good again.
I'd say he's into you, but it's clear he has some issues.I speak my attraction to my love interest as well. Those eyes and hair and legs  Hold your ground because he wants what he wants and won't think of your needs. Take care of u. He will take care of him. ------------------
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Scorpio ♏ Moon,Mars,Saturn (5th House)
Cancer ♋ Rising
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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 27, 2014 04:35 PM
You didn't tell us anything about his Mars, sign, house, aspects, which is the most important planet in determining how a man goes after what he wants.IP: Logged |
sambam
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posted April 27, 2014 04:39 PM
Wow,thanks for that! Great to hear from an actual Leo. Lol quote:
Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
A Leo will watch you from afar. We want to know EVERYTHING about the person we're dating. If he's stalking you, he's interested.
Leo men are not to proud to beg. It's an ego thing. They want the victory. Don't take this as a sign of desire or obsession because it's not a measure of their interest.
Bottom line: he was out of line.
Leo men are extraordinarily immature. He knew he was wrong barking at you in the phone and because he's into you, he got worried it was too harsh and wanted to make sure you were good again.
I'd say he's into you, but it's clear he has some issues.I speak my attraction to my love interest as well. Those eyes and hair and legs Hold your ground because he wants what he wants and won't think of your needs. Take care of u. He will take care of him.
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sambam
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posted April 27, 2014 04:41 PM
His mars is also in Leo like mine quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You didn't tell us anything about his Mars, sign, house, aspects, which is the most important planet in determining how a man goes after what he wants.
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Venusincap89
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posted April 27, 2014 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by Jo B:
Kissing is alright, just not with tongues when you didn't invite it. lol
That's only if you are totally into your first date. (But how often are the guys aware of this?) If you were in beween, in terms of feelings of your date, the guy coming in for any sort of kiss on the first date significantly damages the potential for you to grow feelings for your date (it is my understanding that ladies in general finds out whether they like their date or not for 99% in about 3 to 5 dates)
But honestly, how often do you go out on a first date with someone, to find out that you are 99% into them? Not too often.. So any smart men who knows what he is doing would play it safe and not kiss on the first date I do like the idea of no tongue kissing on the second date, not first date. For myself though, the whole point of kissing is to just prove that I am heterosexual
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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 27, 2014 04:49 PM
I can tell you that a man with Sun/Moon/Mars in Leo and Virgo Venus likes to do the chase himself, because of his Leo placements and because his Venus in Virgo is cautious and suspicious towards things moving too fast, girls falling too easily etc.Kissing, making out with a man you just met on a first date...I don't know what to say about that. Why so fast? His Mars in Leo was probably aroused, but his Venus in Virgo didn't like it. Also, why going with him at 3 am at his place after a date that went well, on a first date? You didn't even know him, you didn't know what you would find there.... well, that's just how I see it. But the most important thing, IMO: sleeping in the same bed with a man you just met is not a good idea, because men react differently to this, physically they are different, when they get aroused, there is a point of no return, and they can feel very awkward afterwords and they get resentful. So he took it as a rejection, you made him feel bad. It's OK to tease men, but sleeping in the same bed with them with no intention of having sex is to avoid at all costs unless you want to tease them in a very bad and unfair way. IP: Logged |
sambam
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posted April 27, 2014 04:58 PM
As I said earlier hindsight is 20/20. Could I have made better decisions? Probably. We were both drinking. His place was closer to us and at 3am I would have gotten home around 5am. Either way,let's keep the judgments to a minimum. Thanks! quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I can tell you that a man with Sun/Moon/Mars in Leo and Virgo Venus likes to do the chase himself, because of his Leo placements and because his Venus in Virgo is cautious and suspicious towards things moving too fast, girls falling too easily etc.Kissing, making out with a man you just met on a first date...I don't know what to say about that. Why so fast? His Mars in Leo was probably aroused, but his Venus in Virgo didn't like it. Also, why going with him at 3 am at his place after a date that went well, on a first date? You didn't even know him, you didn't know what you would find there.... well, that's just how I see it. But the most important thing, IMO: sleeping in the same bed with a man you just met is not a good idea, because men react differently to this, physically they are different, when they get aroused, there is a point of no return, and they can feel very awkward afterwords and they get resentful. So he took it as a rejection, you made him feel bad. It's OK to tease men, but sleeping in the same bed with them with no intention of having sex is to avoid at all costs unless you want to tease them in a very bad and unfair way.
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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 27, 2014 05:07 PM
Sorry if I seemed judgmental, that was not my intention. You asked for an opinion, and this is my honest opinion, astrologically and otherwise. I was trying to explain to you what I think happened in his mind. The point is not to feel guilty or judged, but to try different things next time for different results.And sorry again if I seemed preachy or judgmental I did the same mistakes myself, that's how I learned. IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil
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posted April 27, 2014 05:08 PM
Who is making up these rules?!?!?! Me and M kissed on the first date and every other date after that. Lucky that's all I did with those long legs of his. I had to go back to work. ------------------
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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 27, 2014 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by LoadedPistil:
Who is making up these rules?!?!?! Me and M kissed on the first date and every other date after that. Lucky that's all I did with those long legs of his. I had to go back to work.
That's because you are exceptional, therefore your relationships are exceptions, LoadedPistil  BTW, Leo Moon, Virgo Venus here. Leo Moons are very proud, you can easily hurt their ego. Also, Leo Moons want to admire and adore their partner. IP: Logged | |
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