posted September 20, 2014 06:45 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Lol I'm over 50 % water and have a pisces moon. It's still mutable, and it's not a jealous moon, but I have cancer ascendant, cancer jupiter and scorpio pluto. And 4th house stellium. I think I am very insecure yes, I only just turned 25. But its still not an excuse for behaving like a jealous territorial type of girl.
I just really hope I can shake it of me someday!

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I *really* didn't gain complete security in myself until I was about 30-31, so it's still new to me (36 now). But my way of thinking is in line with a similar comment from page 1. If I am with someone who loses interest in me... oh well. I'm too busy / too fun / too sexy / too much of a catch for jealousy or wallowing in sorrow. I'm just done with that.

As much as it sucked, I believe I can thank my Saturn return for this new way of thinking.

Anyway, back to you. That IS a lot of water for you to work through.

I am new to this, but have you considered wearing gemstone jewelry that is fiery to boost up your confidence?

I would choose Carnelian for your confidence mixed with some Peridot to protect you against negative emotions (such as jealousy). Rose Quartz is supposed to be healing (including healing of emotional wounds). Also, Snowflake Obsidian is supposed to help you see your old patterns so you can more easily release them.

Lastly, you could consider wearing the birthstones associated with Fire signs: Sardonyx, Bloodstone, Fire Agate, Pink Rhodochrosite, Amber, etc.

Just some ideas. We can't change our time of birth, but we can bring the right kind of energy around us.

posted September 20, 2014 06:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
Are you a Virgo Sun too?

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posted September 21, 2014 12:19 PM            

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They are very passionate, they tend to hide their personal life and usually are jealous but hide it very well.

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As a fixed water sign, Scorpio is supposed to be both secretive and controlled. Ha!! VIS does a poor job of hiding their jealousy. It's the one thing, I've noticed, they can't hide or be detached about - their romantic attachments.

Almost ten years ago I was in a love triangle with a VIS. The object of their affection was no longer interested and started coming after me. Sadly, I wasn't as keen on this person. One day VIS caught us alone and gave me the most intense arresting stare. VIS must've been 17yo at the time. I thought the whole thing hilarious and looked away before I LOLed in their face.

posted September 22, 2014 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Me, never have been. I loathe jealous people, it's a complete deal breaker. 👎👎 I can not fathom insecure people, just no. I give my all and if that isn't enough for the person to see and realize then there is no point in continuing.

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posted September 22, 2014 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Me, never have been. I loathe jealous people, it's a complete deal breaker. 👎👎 I can not fathom insecure people, just no. I give my all and if that isn't enough for the person to see and realize then there is no point in continuing.

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Another vote +1

So now we have THREE Venus in Scorpio people saying we aren't jealous and in fact, we loathe jealousy.

My current partner (and husband) tried to pull some jealous crap on me and I flipped out. I seriously almost divorced him just 4 months into our marriage over it.

I HATE HATE HATE jealousy.

posted September 22, 2014 08:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
I don't

I know a few and all of them are very jealous

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posted September 22, 2014 10:00 PM            

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Originally posted by VestaFlake:
not.even.one.

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You don't know us personally, but there are three just in this thread.

Just sayin'... trying to break the stereotype.

posted September 23, 2014 02:30 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
And none would ever admit they are jealous ... And the sags and libras are definitely less in touch with themselves than the Scorps. As least the Scorpios can admit they are messed up

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posted September 23, 2014 03:01 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
And none would ever admit they are jealous ... And the sags and libras are definitely less in touch with themselves than the Scorps. As least the Scorpios can admit they are messed up

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Hmm, most people who actually know me say that what they like about me is that I'm really very self aware.

I know my issues. Jealousy is not one of them.

But yes, yes. I know. We are all delusional if we don't conform to the stereotype! LOL

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I kind of agree with you^^ I think that EVERY scorp venus is a little bit jealous (or a lot actually) But some are just better at hiding it than others Someone mentioned that scorp is also about control…. maybe some people learn to at least control their feelings and keep it in! But the feeling of being jealous is definitely there, no doubt!

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I've hidden it so well to the point of it being non-existant?! Hmmm.

I've mentioned this before. But why is it that when we discuss those that don't fit the stereotype, *especially* Venus in Scorpio, it is always that we are delusional and not self aware? I have to say I find that really insulting and annoying.

posted September 23, 2014 03:52 AM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:

I've hidden it so well to the point of it being non-existant?! Hmmm.

I've mentioned this before. But why is it that when we discuss those that don't fit the stereotype, *especially* Venus in Scorpio, it is always that we are delusional and not self aware? I have to say I find that really insulting and annoying.

But I still loves ya.

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Maybe you have come to a point where you have let it go, but you did mention that you suffered from jealousy earlier on… so its not like you have NEVER been!
You also have sag sun and moon, although I thought it would actually make it worse :S I remember I read some thread here on LL once about the most jealous signs, and unexpectedly a lot of person came the the conclusion that sagittarians could have jealousy problems :S (not that I believe in it, cause I've never known a single jealous sag)

posted September 23, 2014 06:48 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Maybe you have come to a point where you have let it go, but you did mention that you suffered from jealousy earlier on… so its not like you have NEVER been!
You also have sag sun and moon, although I thought it would actually make it worse :S I remember I read some thread here on LL once about the most jealous signs, and unexpectedly a lot of person came the the conclusion that sagittarians could have jealousy problems :S (not that I believe in it, cause I've never known a single jealous sag)

MY own conclusion is that you have probably kept it in so long that now you don't even need to anymore, you have just learned to let it go! Hope I'll follow you someday, all my friends say that I am not the jealous type, and I am not… but just somehow seeing my boyfriend having female friends just trick some jealous feeling in me and it sux.

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I've never said I never had it. Geeky also never said she never had it. Everyone has it at some point. Everyone goes through the range of human emotions at some point. It's all about how you handle it.

But to say that because I once had it means that I still have it and that I'm not self aware enough to know is just wrong. I've been through it and I know what it is. So I can tell you, I'm not a jealous person.

I learned to let it go a long long time ago. Yes. I'm old(ish)! But I dealt with this issue when I was in high school so when I was in my late teens.

It IS something you can deal with. There are three of us here that prove you don't have to let astrological tendency get in the way of your life. There are positive and negative manifestations of this placement. It just might take us a bit more work than others.

Jealousy that is out of control and unfounded is an ugly feeling that can poison your relationship, but mostly it poisons your own heart. I can't tell you how to let it go. You'll have to find that way yourself. Just know it IS possible.

Maybe being an (generally) optimistic Sag helps me deal. Though there is also a Virgo and a Libra who say the same.

My only point of warning is maybe there is something about this person that doesn't allow you to feel comfortable. Have you always been jealous in relationships? Friendships?

My jealous was mostly with a friend never with a boyfriend. What I learned from that is that this friend wasn't able to give me what I wanted. So I had to let her go. At least I had to put her in her place, ie, she couldn't be *my* best friend because she needed 100 friends and i wanted just a few really close friends. I also learned to accept people as they are, or not. I either accept what she can give me which is limited or not be her friend at all. She is still a friend. We are not super close and she still have 1000 friends!

posted September 23, 2014 07:55 AM              

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I kind of agree with you^^ I think that EVERY scorp venus is a little bit jealous (or a lot actually) But some are just better at hiding it than others Someone mentioned that scorp is also about control…. maybe some people learn to at least control their feelings and keep it in! But the feeling of being jealous is definitely there, no doubt!

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Talk about generalizing, isn't the question for those who are NOT jealous? ...

Not true, we are not all the same, no one is the same. I have absolutely no reason to be jealous of anyone or anything else, period. I have no reason to hide anything, what would I gain? Are we not realizing how immature and high school that is? 0_o Insecure people are the jealous ones. I'm not insecure and even when I was going through tough times I fought myself, not other people, I was my biggest hater.

I'm too hard-driving, too optimistic and busy trying to perfect myself and my life first hahaha. Yes I'm very much in control of myself and my feelings but feelings of jealousy, uh no. I despise jealousy and do NOT put up with it. Maybe it's my exact sun/moon conjunct that doesn't like it, I am Libra after all. I'm Venus dominant.

posted September 23, 2014 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I've mentioned this before. But why is it that when we discuss those that don't fit the stereotype, *especially* Venus in Scorpio, it is always that we are delusional and not self aware? I have to say I find that really insulting and annoying

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posted September 23, 2014 11:00 AM            

I really truly believes that the only reason you chose to misunderstand everything I write and call it a generalization is because it is a little bit true also… I mean, you believe in astrology or what? Maybe not anymore after this lol?
But if you're into astrology, you should also recognize some of the most typical traits of scorpio venus… not that I say you should recognize the feeling of being some crazy jealous person who wants to check your partner constantly and is paranoid and is only a moment away from going berserk on something (or someone)

It's also really typically scorpio venus to dramatize everything and make it a huge thing

Anyways… I don't want to discuss with you guys you clearly show the steady side of VIS right now, and to discuss things further with you, would only make you more dramatic^^

posted September 23, 2014 11:16 AM            

I'm not offended by the discussion. I do get bothered by people try to tell me I'm delusional. It's not likely you'd like that either.

Anyway, what's the point of asking a question if you don't want or don't believe the answer?

The title is "Do you know any scorpio venus people who are NOT jealous?".

YES. Me, Geeky & Barbie.

posted September 23, 2014 11:29 AM              

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
huh? No one is dramatizing. There was certainly zero emotion in my reply to you. Just the facts, madame. I was looking to help you understand that you too can over come your jealousy if you want to. You are not doomed by your Venus.

I'm not offended by the discussion. I do get bothered by people try to tell me I'm delusional. It's not likely you'd like that either.

Anyway, what's the point of asking a question if you don't want or don't believe the answer?

The title is "Do you know any scorpio venus people who are NOT jealous?".

YES. Me, Geeky & Barbie.

And yes. I do believe in astrology. I just don't believe everyone is a cookie cutter.

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posted September 23, 2014 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
You don't know us personally, but there are three just in this thread.

Just sayin'... trying to break the stereotype.

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well.. I think we all agreed that astrology is somewhat stereotypical. And when some thing is called stereotypical, by definition it may not be true all the time but it shows up to be true more than not.

you do not need to hunt people down just to show 'you exist as a non-jealous' scorpio. but I would rather have you post your chart and aspects and turn this into a fruitful conversation.

For example;
Those around me who has venus scorpios also have scorpio in other personal planets as well. Or they have a packed 8th house. And this kind of stuff adds tension whereas some other aspects might be soothing you down.But I didn't like it when you responded to me that way.

End of my Venus in Leo drama

posted September 23, 2014 01:19 PM            

Of course, just because we are not jealous doesn't mean we don't have other ViS traits like perhaps loyalty, desire for depth in relationships, privacy. We probably have lots ViS traits, just not jealousy which is only one part of this Venus anyway.

And sure, it's more common than not. I don't think anyone said otherwise. But there is no point in asking for those who are not and then say we are wrong.

Not everyone manifest them the same based on as you say, aspects, house placements, life experience, etc.

Anyway, maybe one clue/idea/piste is that both Geeky & I have Sag moons & Libra Mars. Barbie is very Libra influenced....

Other points about my Venus to investigate? V in 12 conj ASC (3deg) opp Saturn (8deg). Scorpio ASC, Jupiter in Scorpio 1H opp Saturn (3deg). Empty 8H, Gemini.

posted September 23, 2014 05:32 PM            

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Not true, we are not all the same, no one is the same. I have absolutely no reason to be jealous of anyone or anything else, period. I have no reason to hide anything, what would I gain? Are we not realizing how immature and high school that is? 0_o Insecure people are the jealous ones. I'm not insecure and even when I was going through tough times I fought myself, not other people, I was my biggest hater.

I'm too hard-driving, too optimistic and busy trying to perfect myself and my life first hahaha. Yes I'm very much in control of myself and my feelings but feelings of jealousy, uh no. I despise jealousy and do NOT put up with it. Maybe it's my exact sun/moon conjunct that doesn't like it, I am Libra after all. I'm Venus dominant.

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This is hilarious coming from a Libra. I would bet anything that you ARE a stereotypical intense & jealous ViS. I don't care what you say here, your behavior betrays your argument. I know Libra.

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I really truly believes that the only reason you chose to misunderstand everything I write and call it a generalization is because it is a little bit [a LOT] true also…

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posted September 23, 2014 05:36 PM              

What is so hard to believe?

You've (several of you) convinced yourself so much that you are unwilling to listen. Everything says vis is such and such so it's automatic truth right? Wrong.
Get out of your little box and listen to people. Several have already debunked it being 100% truth.