posted September 24, 2014 07:04 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Sorry. I was comment as I went along. I should really have read all of them before I replied, but you can't multi-quote on here. Or at least I don't know how.

Mine is in the 12th @ 9 deg conj ASC by 3 deg. Could it be a the first decan thing?

It could be our moons & mars. I know we have the same moon & mars. What moon & mars does Barbie have?

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I have Sag moon (like your Sun) and Mars in Libra.

Could also be the first decan thing. ???

I believe in the differences between decans in any sign, but in my own Sun sun (Virgo) the decans are very different, IMO.

posted September 24, 2014 07:06 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
Well. Ok. It seems you have history with her. I've only "talked" with her in a thread once or twice.

If she upsets you, you should probably just try to ignore her.

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posted September 24, 2014 07:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
I have Sag moon (like your Sun) and Mars in Libra.

Could also be the first decan thing. ???

I believe in the differences between decans in any sign, but in my own Sun sun (Virgo) the decans are very different, IMO.

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I have a Sag sun & moon. I think Barbie has a Libra stellium. Maybe she has a Libra mars as well.

posted September 24, 2014 07:11 PM            

Even Scorpio suns aren't all jealous.

I've only known six of them (that I am aware of) and three were super jealous/possessive and three were not.

In fact, one of those three non-jealous Scorpio types was cheated on by her husband. She forgave him and they are still together (2 years later). That doesn't fit the stereotypical Scorpio mold at all.

I think that of all of the signs, Scorpios really do get a lot of poop.

posted September 24, 2014 07:42 PM              

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I have a Sag sun & moon. I think Barbie has a Libra stellium. Maybe she has a Libra mars as well.

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posted September 24, 2014 07:47 PM            

I am just stating the challenges here though. And I don't think one can ever completely "get over" one's natal energy. Not that Scorp venus energy is bad anyway, because there are people who desire that. I am sure feminine venuses and mars would not mind.

The challenges of conflicting values in each chart would always be there. It just that as one matures, one manifest the energy at the higher octave ...

posted September 24, 2014 10:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
Side note - since I went off about stereotypes...

Even Scorpio suns aren't all jealous.

I've only known six of them (that I am aware of) and three were super jealous/possessive and three were not.

In fact, one of those three non-jealous Scorpio types was cheated on by her husband. She forgave him and they are still together (2 years later). That doesn't fit the stereotypical Scorpio mold at all.

I think that of all of the signs, Scorpios really do get a lot of poop.

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posted September 25, 2014 04:21 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
Well, Lucie,

I am just stating the challenges here though. And I don't think one can ever completely "get over" one's natal energy. Not that Scorp venus energy is bad anyway, because there are people who desire that. I am sure feminine venuses and mars would not mind.

The challenges of conflicting values in each chart would always be there. It just that as one matures, one manifest the energy at the higher octave ...

Anyway, having scorpio placements has always bring the reputation of being sexy et al. It's not like LL folks have been hating on y'all. If anything, I think people constantly misunderstand my cap venus as power-hungry.

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So, the only manifestations of ViS are jealousy and possessiveness, is that right? And since I'm not jealous and possessive then I'm not living my Venus's natal energy? If you go back and read my posts you will see I had these challenges and now I don't have them anymore. I believe we can get over our challenges. That has been the whole point of my posting on this thread. NtN CAN work on this.

The rest of my Venus is working just fine.

But I don't feel anyone is "hating on us". *I* by no means thing ViS energy is bad. I think my Venus is one of my best features.

It's everyone else who seems to think the only characteristics of this Venus are jealousy and possessiveness....

posted September 25, 2014 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
So, the only manifestations of ViS are jealousy and possessiveness, is that right? And since I'm not jealous and possessive then I'm not living my Venus's natal energy? If you go back and read my posts you will see I had these challenges and now I don't have them anymore. I believe we can get over our challenges. That has been the whole point of my posting on this thread. NtN CAN work on this.

The rest of my Venus is working just fine.

But I don't feel anyone is "hating on us". *I* by no means thing ViS energy is bad. I think my Venus is one of my best features.

It's everyone else who seems to think the only characteristics of this Venus are jealousy and possessiveness....

Now, can you help me get a grip on my damn Libra Mars?!! That is what I need right now.

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posted September 25, 2014 01:48 PM            

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Well, ViS is definitely possessive regardless of octave.

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Gah! Here we go again.

No, it's not. How could I have have ever been in poly relationships if I am possessive? I don't need to possess or own any one (or any thing for that matter).

That was my point of posting. Maybe the Mars in Libra influence and Barbiegirl19's heavy Libra influence balances this out?

Because what I am about is FAIRNESS in a relationship. Since my husband asked for complete monogamy, he sure as hell better be adhering to that standard. Why? Not because I am possessive or jealous, but I would feel like it's unfair. I would feel like, "Why not just have a poly relationship?" because that would be fair.

I like equality. But that does not = possessive.

posted September 25, 2014 01:57 PM            

Venus in Scorpio

What I am not:

Jealous, possessive, manipulative, cautious, vengeful, unforgiving, a game player (all associated with ViS). In fact, these qualities **** me off and I am not attracted to them AT ALL. (However, insecurity and jealousy plagued me in my youth.)

What I am:

Intense, highly sexual, somewhat obsessive, passionate, trustworthy (I will hold secrets to my death), emotional/mushy/romantic, and sexual.

Did I mention how much I like sex? *lol*

EDIT: I am drawn to drama, but not in my own life. I watch soaps, reality shows, etc. & I love hearing gossip!

posted September 25, 2014 02:00 PM              

There are 3 females from LL that I talk to outside of LL, on personal levels. Once in a while, not a lot.

posted September 25, 2014 02:14 PM              

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Originally posted by Geeky:
Gah! Here we go again.

No, it's not. How could I have have ever been in poly relationships if I am possessive? I don't need to possess or own any one (or any thing for that matter).

That was my point of posting. Maybe the Mars in Libra influence and Barbiegirl19's heavy Libra influence balances this out?

Because what I am about is FAIRNESS in a relationship. Since my husband asked for complete monogamy, he sure as hell better be adhering to that standard. Why? Not because I am possessive or jealous, but I would feel like it's unfair. I would feel like, "Why not just have a poly relationship?" because that would be fair.

I like equality. But that does not = possessive.

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+1 +1 +1
Exactly how I look at it.

I think for me the reason I've never been jealous is because growing up I was always the "go-getter" child, I always and still do strive for the best that I can get and give in my life. I've always been just a strong person regardless of whatever situation I've been in. I genuinely care and love people, I'm a HUGE socialite. I like getting to know people not judging and dissecting them. I'm too fair hahaha! I've never once compared myself to another person because that crap doesn't matter to me and IMO that IS the problem with today's youth and young adults.

When in relationships I never once got jealous because my bf talked to a women, looked at another women, hugged and etc. I know that when I'm in relationship with someone that they're with me for a reason, I'm very secure and have nothing to feel insecure about. If I felt like they were being shady then I'd tell them that and if the shadyness wasn't handled then the relationship would be over. But never was I possessive or jealous. Romantic and overly sexual maybe

posted September 25, 2014 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
Gah! Here we go again.

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No sweetie, you are. You are possessive and jealous. You just don't know it. Clearly you don't know how to use your Venus properly. It is ONLY to be used in the negative way. That's it.

posted September 25, 2014 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
Let's dissect me & use me as a case study.

Venus in Scorpio

What I am not:

Jealous, possessive, manipulative, cautious, vengeful, unforgiving, a game player (all associated with ViS). In fact, these qualities **** me off and I am not attracted to them AT ALL. (However, insecurity and jealousy plagued me in my youth.)

What I am:

Intense, highly sexual, somewhat obsessive, passionate, trustworthy (I will hold secrets to my death), emotional/mushy/romantic, and sexual.

Did I mention how much I like sex? *lol*

EDIT: I am drawn to drama, but not in my own life. I watch soaps, reality shows, etc. & I love hearing gossip!

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That is me almost to a tee! (Oh, wait... no it's not....)

I'd add "secretive" to the list of what I am.

The differences are: I don't love reality TV. I do like documentaries though and i love true crime type drama rather than reality TV. I would never be in a poly relationship. Not because I'm possessive I just like to have one all in relationship. And I hate personal life dramas.

And also, I'd say that those characteristics in others don't p**s me off or annoy me as much as they do you. I just think they are damaging to the person dealing with them, which then will ultimately damage the relationship.

posted September 25, 2014 10:30 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
No sweetie, you are. You are possessive and jealous. You just don't know it. Clearly you don't know how to use your Venus properly. It is ONLY to be used in the negative way. That's it.

Sorry.

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LMAO!!

posted September 25, 2014 10:32 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I'd add "secretive" to the list of what I am.

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And sarcastic! That's that Sagittarian influence there, me thinks!

posted September 26, 2014 04:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
And sarcastic! That's that Sagittarian influence there, me thinks!

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posted September 26, 2014 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
No sweetie, you are. You are possessive and jealous. You just don't know it. Clearly you don't know how to use your Venus properly. It is ONLY to be used in the negative way. That's it.

Sorry.

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It's sorta like I would always disagree with someone who says Aquas are controlling. In my mind, we never are

posted September 26, 2014 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
lol lol lol. I hope I didn't come across as condescending. I just think this thread is about how some of us experience an aspect namely ViS. To an Uranian person, ViS will always be possessive. And that is COMPLETELY subjective

It's sorta like I would always disagree with someone who says Aquas are controlling. In my mind, we never are

And I hope that concludes everything. My aries moon just wanna have funnn! [/B]

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I'm just teasing. I'm confident and self aware enough to know when i"m being delusional and when I'm not. LOL

posted September 26, 2014 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:

It's sorta like I would always disagree with someone who says Aquas are controlling. In my mind, we never are

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And you know what? I've only known a handful of Aquas, but NONE of them were ever controlling. Furthermore, my Cappy hubby has tons of Aqua in his natal and while all of that Air drives me nutty, he's far from controlling.

So weird.

posted September 27, 2014 04:38 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
@geeky and Lucie: I know my taurus ascendant/scorp dsc will somehow work out with you two a lot of this is just synastry you know.

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Aw sweetie. I (heart) you! I never get upset with someone just because we disagree on a topic or 100!

And having a Scorp dsc, i love Taurus acs! Well I love all things Taurus really!

Plus both the guy I'm seeing and my brother are Taurus acs, aqua sun & Venus. (only one is controlling. The other isn't. sadly it's the guy I'm seeing who is the controlling one. lol)