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Topic: Moons That Will Sell You Out
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2015 08:12 PM
And cancer mars im loyal to a fault its ridiculous the things i have done for some people lmao i will literally try to move mountains for a person i care about even if they do not deserve it and it takes a lot of me to move on Cancer Mars is this way, I think. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Iced8Ace Knowflake Posts: 263 From: CA Registered: Aug 2014
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posted February 03, 2015 08:14 PM
I disdain pretence. This is too general, it's no different than Sun Sign astrology. Then again, you are entitled to your opinion. Air moons are far more loyal than water moons, ime. Water moons i.e Scorpio, the worst position for the moon, has no problem with stabbing a friend in the back over petty, imagined trifles because they're too sensitive. Yes, of course they will harbour a deep, unwavering bond for you for a long time... but why on earth would I want to trust such an emotionally inconsistent and uncontrolled person? Mature water moons who have developed thicker skin and are more mature, can ignore this. I find with air moons they will just disappear for awhile, or "go cold" *not much different from Capricorn moon* rather than spite someone out of some mindless emotions. I'd much rather have the former because I don't push expectations on people to be present in order to be able to look after myself(???) Having lived with 2 Libra moons my whole life, (my mother and my brother) I actually could not find two more loyal people, if I tried to. I can't even count how many times they have put themselves in harms way for me. They're loyal to a fault ime, if they really love you. Blessed to have them in my life.
I won't bother commenting on the rest because I would be dallying out of "moon sign" astrology. Can't be doing that now.
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lilting Knowflake Posts: 84 From: California Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 03, 2015 09:48 PM
I'm still learning the ins and outs of astrology so I don't know how valuable my opinion would be, but I don't completely agree simply because on some points I've experienced the contrary... I'm a pisces moon and maybe it's because pluto trines my moon or squares my mars, but I struggle with being blindly loyal (and I say struggle because I agree with DeepFreeze; a good friend watches out for the other so to speak and sometimes that means steering them right if they're in the wrong). My mother's a leo moon (libra) and wouldn't even consider herself a particularly fiercely loyal person. She's very objective when approaching situations. However a good friend of mine also has a leo moon (cancer) and it doesn't take much to trigger protective responses in her, she's very blindly loyal.  The people I hang out with the most are a libra moon (aquarius) and a scorpio moon (pisces). The first can be pretty detached most of the time, but he's there in a crisis and you can tell by the way he behaves in those moments that you're a priority. My other friend is a bit cold for a pisces, but she's there for you in her own way and is loyal in the sense that she doesn't take kindly to people outside her circle outraging any boundaries she's set up for herself and friends versus strangers. She reminds me more of a scorpio actually. I believe most would be right to say it lies in your definition of loyalty and I suppose that makes all of this as subjective as the rest of astrology lol IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2015 10:07 PM
I'm a pisces moon and maybe it's because pluto trines my moon or squares my mars, but I struggle with being blindly loyalThe Pluto trine would make you like SCorpio Moon and you would be super loyal. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 16956 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 03, 2015 10:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ann7:
I am a Pisces moon, yes on sensitive to the point of being highly empathetic but I can assure you that I am extremely loyal to the people I care about. I was the kid in school that bullied the bullies (if that makes sense) so I tend to fight for the underdog. Last, I do not back down. I have scorp sun and a a tight stellium (mars/pluto/jupiter/uranus) in my 10th.
But Ami said Pisces moons will sell you out!! How mean of you to disagree.  I'll be nice to basically anyone, on my own terms. Maybe that's what Ami means. I figure, it's better to be nice sometimes and give second or third chances than stonewall someone when they're hurting. But don't mistake kindness for friendship ~ there's a difference. I am there for my friends always and hell would freeze over before I sold them out. That's why some of my friendships, I've had most of my life. Pisces moon here. IP: Logged |
lilting Knowflake Posts: 84 From: California Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 03, 2015 10:11 PM
Lol thanks I figured it was that one.  Edit: I still think pisces moons aren't that bad. We can be just as fierce. > ) IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2015 10:17 PM
Honestly, I think from this thread that I have learned that different moons really SEE loyalty very differently.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2015 10:18 PM
I have learned that I need to look at the aspects more, too.A Pisces Moon trine Pluto will be very different entity. It will be Scorpio like. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2015 10:21 PM
Also, very few people say they are disloyal. They see loyalty differently and to a Moon which sees loyalty as a Cancer or Scorpio Moon, they would APPEAR disloyal but to themselves, they are not LOLHence, one needs to understand the inner workings of each Moon, in terms of loyalty, and to seek what you need in relationships. I could not see myself with a Gemini Moon, for example. I could not see myself with an Aqua or Libra Moon. Hence, I would know from the synastry the people with whom I should invest myself, friends or more. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 16956 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 03, 2015 10:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I have learned that I need to look at the aspects more, too.A Pisces Moon trine Pluto will be very different entity. It will be Scorpio like.
Right, look at the aspects. ------------------ 6H Capricorn sun, 6H Aquarius Mercury, 8H Pisces moon, Leo rising IP: Logged |
SoStellarOne Knowflake Posts: 96 From: Charleston,SC, US Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 04, 2015 07:22 AM
As a Pisces Moon, Its really hard for me to trust anyone, because for me, gaining trust requires a meeting of the minds and just simply being honest with me, not trying to control and manipulate me. I never make promises, because I fear that I'll forget them, but once I do feel that I can trust someone? I will stick with you no matter what and there isn't anything that I wouldn't do for you. The most loyal moon signs I've ever encountered are: Mostly Leo and Taurus Moons. I've never experienced it from any other moons sign. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2015 07:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by SoStellarOne: As a Pisces Moon, Its really hard for me to trust anyone, because for me, gaining trust requires a meeting of the minds and just simply being honest with me, not trying to control and manipulate me. I never make promises, because I fear that I'll forget them, but once I do feel that I can trust someone? I will stick with you no matter what and there isn't anything that I wouldn't do for you. The most loyal moon signs I've ever encountered are: Mostly Leo and Taurus Moons. I've never experienced it from any other moons sign.
GREAT post, S. What aspects does your Moon make?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2015 07:30 AM
I really got some wonderful new insights from this thread. I was seeing the planets as too black and white and not the melding of the aspects to modify the planet in the sign. I am so glad I have a wonderful place and wonderful people with which to discuss Astrology.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ann7 Knowflake Posts: 670 From: united states Registered: May 2009
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posted February 04, 2015 07:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: But Ami said Pisces moons will sell you out!! How mean of you to disagree.  I'll be nice to basically anyone, on my own terms. Maybe that's what Ami means. I figure, it's better to be nice sometimes and give second or third chances than stonewall someone when they're hurting. But don't mistake kindness for friendship ~ there's a difference. I am there for my friends always and hell would freeze over before I sold them out. That's why some of my friendships, I've had most of my life. Pisces moon here.
I've got a lot of life friends, too, for the same reasons. I took Ami's interpretation to mean that Pisces moons are too wishy/washy to be loyal. Don't get me wrong, we (at least me) can be flaky with the best of them but cheat, sell a person out or not be there for them? No, not if they matter. Again, it all goes back to the persons individual chart. PS- totally agree, do not mistake kindness for friendship, even more so -weakness which I find happens a lot to Pisces moon people.
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SoStellarOne Knowflake Posts: 96 From: Charleston,SC, US Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 04, 2015 08:21 AM
Hi Ami, Aspects? My Moon is Conjunct to my Sun, Venus and Mars. Squared to my Uranus and Neptune in Sagittarius.Inconjunct to my Saturn, Jupiter and Pluto in Libra. Semi-Sextile to my Mercury in Aquarius. If that s what you're asking. I'm still kind of new on the astrological terms people are using on here.IP: Logged |
SoStellarOne Knowflake Posts: 96 From: Charleston,SC, US Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 04, 2015 08:27 AM
Ann7, You're definitely right about not mistaking kindness for friendship. I've learned that lesson years ago, so now I'm very cautious in my approach to relationships in general. A smiling face doesn't always have the best intentions, so I always keep my guard up and I keep a close eye on people's actions instead of listening to their words.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2015 08:40 AM
I took Ami's interpretation to mean that Pisces moons are too wishy/washy to be loyal.YES, Ann, this has been my experience and it is not the "fault" of the person. If you need a tensile strength, this moon will not have it, generally speaking ime lol ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2015 08:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by SoStellarOne: Hi Ami, Aspects? My Moon is Conjunct to my Sun, Venus and Mars. Squared to my Uranus and Neptune in Sagittarius.Inconjunct to my Saturn, Jupiter and Pluto in Libra. Semi-Sextile to my Mercury in Aquarius. If that s what you're asking. I'm still kind of new on the astrological terms people are using on here.
What is your Moon sign, my Friend and Welcome 
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deptic Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Earth, Raised on Pluto Registered: Jun 2014
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posted February 04, 2015 08:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Loyalty is different for everyone, as stated, I agree. First, I'm Gemini moon. Trine Scorpio Uranus Square virgo mars square virgo Mercury Sextile Leo Sun Conjunct Cancer MC (square asc) If I'm in physical harm, well of course. That's a no-brainer. I had a friend who was Libra with Leo moon. She told it EXACTLY as she saw it. She'd tell you that you were a dumbf**k if she thought that you were being one. If she didn't support what you were doing, she'd not support it, and not help you but tell you so, and try to guide you straight. My dad (a cancer moon) was the same way. If he supported what you were doing, he had your back. If not, or if you were making stupid choices, he left you to figure it out and would deny help. He (sag sun) was actually VERY stubborn about this! My mom (Aries moon) is the kind of person who would support me no matter what. I actually feel like I need to kind of care for her sometimes because I don't want her to be taken advantage of by someone. (My sister used to kind of abuse my mother's selfless love, years ago) I knew another Cancer moon who I eventually blew up on and DESTROYED that friendship. From their point of view, perhaps it is me who was "Disloyal". From my point of view, they were being very fake and refusing to call me out on what they disagreed with. I could have called them ugly and fat and they would have simply smiled. I don't trust people like that. It depends on the person then (the chart), which we figured out. Which makes your loyal moon theory useless. I had a friend that was Pisces Sun, Gemini moon, who was ALWAYS very honest with me and really pushed me to be more friendly, and forgiving. That's loyalty to me. Not following me into "hell" without question, but directing me onto better paths.
Oooo cooooool. my mom has an Aries moon too.  IP: Logged |
SoStellarOne Knowflake Posts: 96 From: Charleston,SC, US Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 04, 2015 10:18 AM
Ami, My Moon Sign is Pisces.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 16956 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 04, 2015 10:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ann7: I've got a lot of life friends, too, for the same reasons.
 quote: Originally posted by Ann7: PS- totally agree, do not mistake kindness for friendship, even more so -weakness which I find happens a lot to Pisces moon people.
Thank you ~ well, it's hard when I am trying to be nice but cannot clearly see how the other person is interpreting my kindness. Maybe I won't want strings attached but they will...and in that case, it might be smarter and kinder to never form an attachment. Anyway... Pisces moons are more likely to be kind to people who don't "deserve" it, because for one thing, we hate to see anyone suffer. (Arguably, we have the number one placement for that.) So we are more likely to get accused of making false gestures of friendship: there are more kind gestures from us altogether, so there's a greater chance of having those gestures misinterpreted. (Unlike some other moons, who won't bother so much with random acts of kindness. They don't "sell you out" because they never paid attention to you to begin with.) Well hey, no one's perfect. 
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 16956 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 04, 2015 10:54 AM
I want to add that Pisces suns also get accused of "flakiness" when they try to be decent and compassionate in difficult areas...lending emotional support to shaky people that no one else wants to deal with. Then the Pisces will get accused of not curing the person, not being there for them enough, losing patience or whatever. AGAIN-- any other sign would have bolted sooner-- this is what happens at the end of the line, in the last sign of Pisces, in that last ditch effort to help someone: it's messy. And Pisces will self-sacrifice and allow themselves to get messy where others will not.--- Once I had a Pisces co-worker and we had a bit of an argument and she was mad at me (and, looking back, I don't blame her.) One day a few years after we stopped talking, I was driving, and my car ran out of gas, so I pulled over to the side of the road. She just happened to be on that road, so, nevermind the drama, she pulled over, picked me up, took me to buy gas...pretty sure this was going to make her late for work. She didn't even like me (!) but that is just how Pisces people operate. See a problem, fix the problem. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 04, 2015 10:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by SoStellarOne: Ami, My Moon Sign is Pisces.
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posted February 04, 2015 11:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: I want to add that Pisces suns also get accused of "flakiness" when they try to be decent and compassionate in difficult areas...lending emotional support to shaky people that no one else wants to deal with. Then the Pisces will get accused of not curing the person, not being there for them enough, losing patience or whatever. AGAIN-- any other sign would have bolted sooner-- this is what happens at the end of the line, in the last sign of Pisces, in that last ditch effort to help someone: it's messy. And Pisces will self-sacrifice and allow themselves to get messy where others will not.--- Once I had a Pisces co-worker and we had a bit of an argument and she was mad at me (and, looking back, I don't blame her.) One day a few years after we stopped talking, I was driving, and my car ran out of gas, so I pulled over to the side of the road. She just happened to be on that road, so, nevermind the drama, she pulled over, picked me up, took me to buy gas...pretty sure this was going to make her late for work. She didn't even like me (!) but that is just how Pisces people operate. See a problem, fix the problem.
Yep, Pretty much! (I don't have any Pisces for those that don't know.) I worry for them sometimes in that they just WILL not unload their own issues. Determined not to burden anyone else with their issues. I always encourage them to, but they won't. Definitely the sign that you'd see in the movies, "Go on without me. Save yourself!" IP: Logged |
VacantGazer Knowflake Posts: 3069 From: Pluto eyes in the sky Registered: Dec 2014
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posted February 04, 2015 11:15 AM
I think one should also consider the aspects, I myself am a gemini moon and im fiercely loyal to those I care about. I don't think aqua moons I have come across are disloyal either, sure they like their space at times but in the long term I think they are actually quite predictable. Remember Aquarius is a fixed sign. Aspects are important because the signs and planets are not islands in themselves. I have moon in gem trine saturn in scorpio. In addition I have moon sextile Mars and venus both in leo.IP: Logged | |