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Topic: Moons That Will Sell You Out
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2015 04:12 PM
You know nothing will stop me from giving my opinion. I am like the postman of Astrology: neither sleet, nor snow, nor summer rains. I am a Cancer Moon and Mars. Cancer Mars may need a nuclear bomb to make it move but we are LOYAL. Cancer Moon is loyal to a fault. However, I do not consider it a fault. If someone does not appreciate it, the lack is in them, not in me. *Sigh* A Diatribe.Let’s get on with the subject. This may be my fourth article on Loyal Moons. That is the case because I am fascinated by the subject of loyalty( and disloyalty) If I am your friend, I will fight for you. If I love you, I will be on your side. I will slay dragons for you. You will not have to wonder if I will look the other way when you are attacked. I will jump headlong into the fray. That quality is inherent in Cancer Moon and Mars. I do not know which is the more powerful harbinger of loyalty, the Moon or Mars. I would say that it is the Moon. Hence, this article will deal with Moon signs. My greatest attribute in Astrology may be that I OBSERVE. I look at all situations and apply them to the charts. Hence, I have come upon certain conclusions about Moon signs and loyalty. First of all, some Moons are not loyal in the same manner as deeply loyal Moons. Deeply Loyal Moons are Cancer, Capricorn, Scorpio, Leo and Taurus. The aforementioned Moons take loyalty VERY seriously. These Moons do not brook betrayal. Think Michael Corleone in the Godfather. If you are the disloyal type, better hook up with an Air Moon—-Gemini, Libra or Aquarius. These Moons are notoriously disloyal with Libra being the worst. Libra Moon is called the Courtesan’s Moon: cold and fickle. Pisces Moon feels things very deeply, too deeply, in fact. However, he does not seem to have the intestinal fortitude to stand up when needed. He may, at times, but one cannot truly count on him. I really do not know many Sagittarius or Virgo Moons on an intimate basis to know if they will stand up, so cannot comment. They are mutable which bodes for their not standing up well but I cannot comment based on personal experience, which is what I employ in all of my articles. I do not know many Aries Moons. I would imagine that they could stand up based on the fact that Aries is a fighter but I cannot comment from personal experience, once again. To me, the most important part of a synastry are the Moon connections( or lack thereof) If one person is a loyal Moon and she pairs with a disloyal Moon, there will be problems, in my opinion. For those of us who are l extremely loyal,we do not take betrayal lightly. For the Cancer Moon, betrayal will result in a coldness which may last a lifetime. The Scorpio Moon will cut you off without a backward glance. A funny( to me) observation is that the disloyal Moons will not admit they are disloyal. No one wants to admit he is disloyal. It is like admitting that you don’t like puppies. However, the actions of these Moons give them away, especially to the keen observer. You can be one, too. I think the upshot is that loyal Moons should form relationships with other loyal Moons. Loyalty has a language. If you have to be TOLD, you have failed from the start. It is something you know or don’t–whichever may be the case. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 3623 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted February 03, 2015 04:22 PM
My experience:Loyal to death: Cap (once trust is built), Taurus, Scorpio (once trust is built), Leo Loyal as in "will stay with you despite things and things might involve cheating...: Virgo Loyal to fickleness: Gem, Libra, Aqua Loyal to family: Aries Again, this is MY experience with above moons!!! Don't make me eat dirt
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2015 04:24 PM
Loyal to death: Cap (once trust is built), Taurus, Scorpio (once trust is built), LeoYES!! ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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posted February 03, 2015 04:25 PM
Ooooo... I can't wait to write a full reply!!So then if what you're saying is true. Loyal moons go together. Leo moon goes with Scorpio and Taurus for example, because they are loyal, therefore go together DESPITE the fact that they may square. Versus Leo moon with Libra or Gemini moon with which it could sextile? You have holes all over this article. Astrologically and beyond. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1636 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 03, 2015 04:43 PM
I dislike the concept of loyalty. I prefer verbal and written contracts- Taurus MoonIP: Logged |
Ann7 Knowflake Posts: 670 From: united states Registered: May 2009
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posted February 03, 2015 04:47 PM
I'm going to respectfully disagree with some of this. I think certain things you've said are true however I think you need to take the moons placement into account with the entire chart. I am a Pisces moon, yes on sensitive to the point of being highly empathetic but I can assure you that I am extremely loyal to the people I care about. I was the kid in school that bullied the bullies (if that makes sense) so I tend to fight for the underdog. Last, I do not back down. I have scorp sun and a a tight stellium (mars/pluto/jupiter/uranus) in my 10th. I have found that ---depending on the rest of the chart--- gemini and scorp moons will sell you out. This is strictly a personal opinion based on what I've been through.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2015 04:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Ooooo... I can't wait to write a full reply!!So then if what you're saying is true. Loyal moons go together. Leo moon goes with Scorpio and Taurus for example, because they are loyal, therefore go together DESPITE the fact that they may square. Versus Leo moon with Libra or Gemini moon with which it could sextile? You have holes all over this article. Astrologically and beyond.
There are many more options than that. Cancer oppose Cappy which is very good for frienship, as these seem to be most of my friends. Leo moons seem to be my friends, too( sextile Cancer Moon) I did have 2 Scorpio moon friends I forgot about( trine Cancer Moon) There are many, many ways the thing could line up. Checkmate ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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posted February 03, 2015 04:55 PM
Aries Moon here.I'm loyal to my family 110%. If you want to get me angry, very quickly, try and take advantage of my family lol. It probably doesn't help that I have Venus in Taurus tbh lol IP: Logged |
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posted February 03, 2015 05:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: There are many more options than that. Cancer oppose Cappy which is very good for frienship, as these seem to be most of my friends. Leo moons seem to be my friends, too( sextile Cancer Moon)I did have 2 Scorpio moon friends I forgot about( trine Cancer Moon) There are many, many ways the thing could line up. Checkmate
It's the whole of your theory that sucks. Anyone can find loopholes. IP: Logged |
alyssa27 Knowflake Posts: 234 From: Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 03, 2015 05:15 PM
libra moon the worst..cold and fickle..i can be cold sometimes but i don't think that libra moons are the worst anyway everyone has their opinion IP: Logged |
LiesLilithsaidtouranus Knowflake Posts: 959 From: La,la land Registered: Sep 2011
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posted February 03, 2015 05:16 PM
I am loyal to those that deserve loyalty. Not many people do. I don't find many Cancer moons to be loyal. Capricorn moons tend to be more loyal, in their inner circle more so than any other sign, I have come cross.I have a Gemini moon in the 2nd, squared Saturn/Venus and trine my Aquarius sun/mars. I am loyal to people who are respectful of others, myself, and themselves. If you can't even respect your own self, we can't be friends. Loyalty is viewed differently by everyone and people under one moon are not all the same. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2015 05:28 PM
Loyalty is viewed differently by everyone YES, this is my point ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 8441 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 03, 2015 05:37 PM
Pisces and Cancer will bail and sell you out! But I think the ability to do that has more to do with aspects, anyone potentially would if they have deep affliction between a Moon/IC/Uranus/Mars I'm sure there are other combos that would create this also.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2015 05:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Pisces and Cancer will bail and sell you out! But I think the ability to do that has more to do with aspects, anyone potentially would if they have deep affliction between a Moon/IC/Uranus/Mars I'm sure there are other combos that would create this also.
You have a great point about the aspects to the Moon, Gabby. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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LucieLemonade Knowflake Posts: 1588 From: Registered: Sep 2013
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posted February 03, 2015 06:09 PM
Sag moon square pluto. I'm extremely loyal until you screw me over. Then.... well, even then I'll be loyal. But you'll likely be out of my life so it won't matter. IP: Logged |
LiesLilithsaidtouranus Knowflake Posts: 959 From: La,la land Registered: Sep 2011
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posted February 03, 2015 06:10 PM
Do you have Mars conjunct moon Ami?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2015 06:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus: Do you have Mars conjunct moon Ami?
9 degrees. Why?
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Vajra Moderator Posts: 1601 From: Europe Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 03, 2015 06:13 PM
"Moons that will sell you out"…hmm. That sounds very harsh.Trying to remember the most loyal and most blatantly disloyal people I've met, and their Moon signs, the list actually goes like this: The most disloyal- - A man who (successfully) stole his best buddy's girlfriend by lying to her about his friend's actions and smearing his personal character while he was abroad and unable to defend himself - a Pisces Moon. - A very dishonest man who had no trouble at all lying to a woman about his relationship status to seduce her, and kept on lying for two years, while keeping a very loyal live-in girlfriend by the side and expecting her to put up with all of this - a Cancer Moon. - A woman who (unsuccessfully) tried everything in her power to seduce her best girl friend's boyfriend who she knew her gf was madly in love with - a Leo Moon. (Unbelievably, her gf forgave her for trying to steal her guy, saying: "I don't take it personally, it's just her essential nature to try such a thing, she simply cannot help herself"….! That forgiving - and thus very loyal - friend has a Virgo Moon BTW.) - A man who let another person, who he was also responsible for as the superior, work very hard for half a year and then cheated them out of the money, and took all the credit for the work himself - another Leo Moon. That guy has a track record of many similar instances of using people under his care and abusing their trust. No Gemini, Libra, or Aqua Moon known to me has ever come close to displaying such behavior, although no doubt these Moon signs can be disloyal or loyal as well, depending on the circumstances. The most loyal people I've known: - A woman who offered to buy a family's home and rent it to them when they were threatened by eviction, which would have meant investing all of her savings for old age, even though she had already made a huge loan to that family which she knew she would probably not get back - a Gemini Moon. - A woman who will bring a sick friend medicine in the middle of the night without even having been asked to, just because she wants to, and thinks nothing of it (and who does similar things again and again to other people as well, on a regular basis, even though she has very little spare time) - another Gemini Moon. - Another woman I know behaves very similarly with her friends, and has on occasion let people live in her small apartment for weeks and months on end when they were penniless and homeless (a Virgo Moon). - A man who has a hard time turning his back even on people who have mistreated him, and sticks around much too long with obviously dysfunctional relationships, and is still friends with all his exes who he considers family - an Aqua Moon. - A man who will stand by (ex-)colleagues he trusts even when they are being painted as "the enemy" by his superiors and everyone else abandons them or cuts contact out of fear - a Libra Moon. --- I guess marking out certain Moon signs as either "loyal" or "disloyal" is not in accord with common sense. And - it's not exactly an astrological secret that Moon signs can turn out very differently depending on whether the people in question received proper nurturing as children or not - or depending on their personal growth path chosen as adults, or depending on their level of maturity. If anything, the air sign Moons may be the least susceptible to making decisions based purely on emotional grounds- which may actually be an advantage when it comes to the point of proving loyal in the face of adversity, or standing firm in defense of what they consider to be right. IP: Logged |
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posted February 03, 2015 06:17 PM
Loyalty is different for everyone, as stated, I agree. First, I'm Gemini moon. Trine Scorpio Uranus Square virgo mars square virgo Mercury Sextile Leo Sun Conjunct Cancer MC (square asc) If I'm in physical harm, well of course. That's a no-brainer. I had a friend who was Libra with Leo moon. She told it EXACTLY as she saw it. She'd tell you that you were a dumbf**k if she thought that you were being one. If she didn't support what you were doing, she'd not support it, and not help you but tell you so, and try to guide you straight. My dad (a cancer moon) was the same way. If he supported what you were doing, he had your back. If not, or if you were making stupid choices, he left you to figure it out and would deny help. He (sag sun) was actually VERY stubborn about this! My mom (Aries moon) is the kind of person who would support me no matter what. I actually feel like I need to kind of care for her sometimes because I don't want her to be taken advantage of by someone. (My sister used to kind of abuse my mother's selfless love, years ago) I knew another Cancer moon who I eventually blew up on and DESTROYED that friendship. From their point of view, perhaps it is me who was "Disloyal". From my point of view, they were being very fake and refusing to call me out on what they disagreed with. I could have called them ugly and fat and they would have simply smiled. I don't trust people like that. It depends on the person then (the chart), which we figured out. Which makes your loyal moon theory useless. I had a friend that was Pisces Sun, Gemini moon, who was ALWAYS very honest with me and really pushed me to be more friendly, and forgiving. That's loyalty to me. Not following me into "hell" without question, but directing me onto better paths. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67045 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 03, 2015 06:45 PM
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LiesLilithsaidtouranus Knowflake Posts: 959 From: La,la land Registered: Sep 2011
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posted February 03, 2015 06:45 PM
@Vajra The two Gemini moons you described did things I would do. At times, I find myself doing random things for my friends even if they don't ask for my help. I just need to help them because I don't want to see them sad or in pain. I don't wait for them to talk to me, I just know.When I was young, this was a problem for me because my 'friends' would take advantage, but I have learned to just say no. @Ami Though that's a large orb, it is still significant. This aspect is pretty good in general. But the major bad part of it is that how someone reacts to a situation(that for you would get an emotional response) and they don't, you just won't understand and it could change your thoughts about a person.
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Odette Moderator Posts: 6753 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted February 03, 2015 06:57 PM
I don't find Taurus Moon loyal. I've had problems with them because they spend 80% of their time thinking about themselves. I guess they would be loyal to someone who is providing something for them - either comfort or money. Their loyalty seems very conditional. I agree with the others listed being mostly loyal and trustworthy. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1636 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 03, 2015 07:04 PM
It's true Odette. I'm a total gold-digger. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1636 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 03, 2015 07:49 PM
So I was really being facetious in my previous comments because of the nature of this thread.the only loyalty that matters is loyalty to your own integrity. IP: Logged |
Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 854 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted February 03, 2015 08:06 PM
Considering im a triple fixed sign Aqua asc/moon Scorpio sun with a couple pluto aspects And cancer mars im loyal to a fault its ridiculous the things i have done for some people lmao i will literally try to move mountains for a person i care about even if they do not deserve it and it takes a lot of me to move on IP: Logged | |