posted February 04, 2015 11:32 AM            

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Originally posted by VacantGazer:
I think one should also consider the aspects, I myself am a gemini moon and im fiercely loyal to those I care about. I don't think aqua moons I have come across are disloyal either, sure they like their space at times but in the long term I think they are actually quite predictable. Remember Aquarius is a fixed sign. Aspects are important because the signs and planets are not islands in themselves. I have moon in gem trine saturn in scorpio. In addition I have moon sextile Mars and venus both in leo.

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I was thinking HOW to describe the gemini Moons I have encountered when it comes to loyalty. They want to know all the details before they jump in. That is disloyalty to me, a Cancer Moon, but makes sense to them lol

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posted February 04, 2015 11:40 AM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I was thinking HOW to describe the gemini Moons I have encountered when it comes to loyalty. They want to know all the details before they jump in. That is disloyalty to me, a Cancer Moon, but makes sense to them lol

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Speaking for myself, but maybe it's all Gemini moons.

posted February 04, 2015 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Yep, Pretty much! (I don't have any Pisces for those that don't know.)
I worry for them sometimes in that they just WILL not unload their own issues. Determined not to burden anyone else with their issues.
I always encourage them to, but they won't.
Definitely the sign that you'd see in the movies, "Go on without me. Save yourself!"

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posted February 04, 2015 01:09 PM            

O, swear not by the moon, the fickle moon, the inconstant moon, that monthly changes in her circle orb, Lest that thy love prove likewise variable.

Big Willy

posted February 04, 2015 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
All Moons are fickle

O, swear not by the moon, the fickle moon, the inconstant moon, that monthly changes in her circle orb, Lest that thy love prove likewise variable.

Big Willy

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posted February 04, 2015 05:59 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
All Moons are fickle

O, swear not by the moon, the fickle moon, the inconstant moon, that monthly changes in her circle orb, Lest that thy love prove likewise variable.

Big Willy

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posted February 04, 2015 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Since we all got talking about Pisces Moon earlier - I've had my issues with Pisces Moon men, but they weren't disloyal as such. I mostly just find their psychological problems difficult to deal with.

Another Moon sign that's usually considered fickle is Gemini - and in my experience with them, they have all been very loyal and honest towards me.

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They conjunct your ASC. Could that be why, perhaps?

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posted February 05, 2015 08:25 AM            

I really got more of a sense of the blending of the planets in the signs by the ASPECTS. I feel my Astrology has really opened a new door. I knew it, intellectually, but it reached my heart.

Thank you, again, dear Friends

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posted April 11, 2016 10:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I was thinking HOW to describe the gemini Moons I have encountered when it comes to loyalty. They want to know all the details before they jump in. That is disloyalty to me, a Cancer Moon, but makes sense to them lol

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This just kills me, every time. Speaking as someone who has defended you over the years. I don't always agree with you, but I don't like to see you attacked.
And then you write this, and other things.

posted April 11, 2016 10:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thank you ~ well, it's hard when I am trying to be nice but cannot clearly see how the other person is interpreting my kindness. Maybe I won't want strings attached but they will...and in that case, it might be smarter and kinder to never form an attachment.

Anyway...

Pisces moons are more likely to be kind to people who don't "deserve" it, because for one thing, we hate to see anyone suffer. (Arguably, we have the number one placement for that.) So we are more likely to get accused of making false gestures of friendship: there are more kind gestures from us altogether, so there's a greater chance of having those gestures misinterpreted. (Unlike some other moons, who won't bother so much with random acts of kindness. They don't "sell you out" because they never paid attention to you to begin with.)

Well hey, no one's perfect.

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This describes me, too - maybe my Mars in Pisces contributes to this.

posted April 11, 2016 11:40 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
This just kills me, every time. Speaking as someone who has defended you over the years. I don't always agree with you, but I don't like to see you attacked.
And then you write this, and other things.

Seems like Cancer Moon sat back and had no problem with me being ridiculed, or attacked. It isn't loyal to a fault, and needs all the facts.

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posted April 11, 2016 11:46 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
This describes me, too - maybe my Mars in Pisces contributes to this.

Funny how certain people (not you) think that Pisces needs to learn to be more selfish - I finally did that in ways, in an effort to safe myself - and I've only been punished for it (and most likely seen as an Obnoxious Aries - nice, calm Aries for years, finally needs to just tell people where to go, and it's the most awful thing in the world apparently).

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Pisces just needs a safe haven to retreat to where no one can bother them.

If I have that, I'm okay.

posted April 11, 2016 01:46 PM            

My ex-husband was loyal in the sense that he would never talk about me to anyone else. No matter what I did, he never went to his parents and divulge, or his friends for that matter. He held it all inside.

When we split, I viewed myself as being the loyal one because I still had his back, prayed for him, wanted the best for him even though he was being basically an absent father and out partying and had totally let me and our marriage down...

But to him, I was disloyal. At the time, I had a belief that if something was the truth, I could say it. It didn't matter if it was talking negatively about someone.. I had no problem divulging intimate aspects of our life to even a grocery store clerk. I was an open book.

I have since learned, that true loyalty is not discussing some negative trait behind someones back, but by being strong enough to bring that concern to them directly, with love. It is actually something I am totally not okay with... He can do me wrong now, but I won't allow myself to talk badly about him to others- even if it may be warranted...

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posted April 13, 2016 12:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Vajra:

No Gemini, Libra, or Aqua Moon known to me has ever come close to displaying such behavior, although no doubt these Moon signs can be disloyal or loyal as well, depending on the circumstances.

The most loyal people I've known:

- A woman who offered to buy a family's home and rent it to them when they were threatened by eviction, which would have meant investing all of her savings for old age, even though she had already made a huge loan to that family which she knew she would probably not get back - a Gemini Moon.

- A woman who will bring a sick friend medicine in the middle of the night without even having been asked to, just because she wants to, and thinks nothing of it (and who does similar things again and again to other people as well, on a regular basis, even though she has very little spare time) - another Gemini Moon.

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If I consider you family, it means that I will take care of you. Period. I gave my parents my life savings so they could buy a house elsewhere because they were in a bad situation. I've taken money I needed and handed it to people I care about because they needed it more. I make time when there is no time. I give my all even when I have nothing to give. I defend you even when there's a chance that you might be wrong. And if you are wrong, I'll be standing there facing that hurdle with you.

I'm a very loyal and caring and compassionate person to those I consider to be family. I am fickle about who gets to be my family because not everyone can be trusted. I can pick up on a vibe from across the room and if I don't like it, they don't get the benefits of my friendship or loyalty. It may look fickle and cold to other people, but it's actually a very intuitive process to hopefully avoid pain and being taken advantage of.

I have Gemini Moon/Mars conjunction in my 4th house.

In contrast, one of the worst betrayals I ever experienced was at the hands of a Sag Sun/Cancer Moon with Scorpio Mars. She became one of my closest friends and then stood by as coworkers dragged my name through the mud, forced me out of my job and then became friends with them afterwards. I wish I could say that it was an isolated occurrence but she did it several times - a testament to the fact that I didn't want to give up on our friendship because that's the kind of person that I am. I found ways to defend her actions in my head because I was being being loyal to her. So, yeah. Moon signs simply aren't enough for determining loyalty.