posted April 15, 2016 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

You, repeatedly, talk about being depressed on here.

I feel sorry for your troubles/sadness and depression and can relate.

However, you would be an example of a person who is incompatible with how I want to do Astrology.

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.....That's so...... rigid and primitive. I can't believe that some people can be THIS primitive. And don't say you feel sorry for someone's troubles when you clearly don't mean it. That's damn insincere. "I feel sorry for you, BUT blablabla". You do know the rules for using the words "but" or "however", right?

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When people are depressed,Dop, the REASON is being they are in denial

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That's a huge leap in logic. How'd you come to THAT conclusion?

posted April 15, 2016 05:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

However, you would be an example of a person who is incompatible with how I want to do Astrology.

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posted April 15, 2016 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
My eyes...they burn.

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lol

posted April 15, 2016 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Liliya:
lol

I tried... I really tried, but I just couldn't resist imagining you making this face

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posted April 15, 2016 06:27 PM            

Being black and Muslim, I am probably everything Ami is afraid of and dislikes. I like her anyway, because I see past her fear and posturing. We won't hang out. On that point Im sure we agree, but I like her.

The thing about that never-ending Cancer battle is we actually recreate the pain and abuse we once experienced...and sometimes we feed on it..

posted April 15, 2016 07:41 PM            

I just don't believe in standing by someone who abuses your love. I don't like ppl telling me fake things. I don't like ppl plastering my placements everywhere, branding me as cold, callous, psychopathic. I don't appreciate the refusal to look at the truth. It has nothing to do with cancer placements. It has a lot to do with free will, and having a generous heart and some humility.

posted April 15, 2016 08:04 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:

I just don't believe in standing by someone who abuses your love. I don't like ppl telling me fake things. I don't like ppl plastering my placements everywhere, branding me as cold, callous, psychopathic. I don't appreciate the refusal to look at the truth. It has nothing to do with cancer placements. It has a lot to do with free will, and having a generous heart and some humility.

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posted April 15, 2016 09:27 PM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Hello my Great Unknown!

You're absolutely right to stand against injustice.

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posted April 15, 2016 09:47 PM            

Let's be compassionate to Ami and not remind her of her worst mistakes.

posted April 15, 2016 10:14 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
And Venus, I think this type of thinking is very similar to the prejudices towards Muslim, or any type of racial/ethnic/religious group.
I'm religiously agnostic. I don't "get" religious ppl but that shouldn't prevent me to have compassion for them.

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You're right. You know what's interesting though? For about 2 years I kind of distanced myself from my Muslim family. Nothing "they" did. I just needed my space to figure some things out, and in a family it's difficult to get your space. So I would say I left "the fold of Islam". When I recently became more involved with the Muslim Ummah (family), in general I found them frustrating, in their response to world events, media, etc...

Time with them, and myself, is changing my perception. I might not be very clear because I'm still figuring it out, but it's like there's this giant storm of anger enveloping the entire world- Anger or denial and complacency.

I'm a fighter. In fact a part of me loves to fight. When I was a child I had this reoccurring dream of going through some intense trial, and then escaping with my captor or enemy's horse or horses. That is the Native warrior spirit in me.

..Anyway, the great deception in the world is evident to me. The ignorance of Muslims and non-Muslims (and everyone in between, including myself) is overwhelming to me. The world is getting smaller and the offender and offended are being forced into close quarters.

I only see one way out (my Muslim family is reminding me) and that is to 1. Never get angry, even when in "battle", and 2. Occupy myself, as opposed to Wall Street or something.

I thought my Ummah (religious family) had given up. No. They have taken the battle to the next level.

I have always admired Malcolm X for his articulate and concise way of telling it like it is, but even he, when he tasted peace became more like Martin Luther King.

By the way, there is something very powerful in your reserve. You're not a chatter box like myself; always working things out out loud. So when you speak it's effective.

eta: I believe wholeheartedly in speaking out against injustice. Some of the things Ami said to some members is deplorable. I was actually hoping to give her something to think about, in a very indirect, walking sideways, Cancerean kind of way

but now the cat's out of the bag...or the crab is out of the shell..

posted April 15, 2016 11:13 PM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
*bump*
In case you didn't catch my endless editing and afterthoughts

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I did. Haha. I was trying to find a time to properly respond. And I think complacency and bigotry are the words here.

I really appreciate your honest, thoughtful posts. I never thought you were a chatterbox. I'm just more curt with how I want to discuss things. Aries moon is kinda impatient in that sense.

And I'm angry in the sense that this is someone who calls herself an astrologer, who attempts to give guidance to others. I don't think she ever changes honestly. Just days ago she start talking about Aquarians again. It's tiring to see a thread or a poster and already know what he/she is gonna say.

Yes, at the beginning of this thread she said she will say what she wants to say. So yes, other posters are gonna tell her what they think too.

I truly believe that to be a teacher, one has to be even more generous, forgiving, and compassionate. It's a big burden.

posted April 15, 2016 11:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Liliya:
@Electro DGX
try to ignore that appalling thing that was said to you. You have support here, if you ever want to talk about it.

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posted April 16, 2016 06:19 AM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:

I truly believe that to be a teacher, one has to be even more generous, forgiving, and compassionate. It's a big burden.

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posted April 16, 2016 06:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Does anyone know of a handy spell we can say that will prevent this thread from ever getting bumped, ever again?

Let's be compassionate to Ami and not remind her of her worst mistakes.

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We don't need a spell, we need this:

posted April 16, 2016 09:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Does anyone know of a handy spell we can say that will prevent this thread from ever getting bumped, ever again?

Let's be compassionate to Ami and not remind her of her worst mistakes.

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Well, she doesn't mind. Only too happy to air the same opinions over and over.

posted April 16, 2016 09:34 AM            

Elysia, that's true.

Weirdly I think people take Ami seriously and repeat that phrase "loyal moon" as if it has some validity.

posted April 16, 2016 10:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

I can't imagine concocting something that random and having people believe it. It almost makes me want to write a totally arbitrary "article" and see how many people repeat my "teachings".

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Omigosh, do it do it!! Please.

I'd love to read that.

posted April 16, 2016 10:49 AM            

and

they danced by the light of the moon.

( The Owl and the Pussycat
by
E. Lear )

posted April 16, 2016 11:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Auntie

Elysia, that's true.

Weirdly I think people take Ami seriously and repeat that phrase "loyal moon" as if it has some validity.

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I don't. It was just hurtful to see something like that, yet again, from someone I've taken care to include in things, even if I don't agree with her on certain things.

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
It was long, but thank you.

It's not like people take pleasure in your pain, or that they can even relate to everything you said, but your honesty and self revealing speaks to many people on different levels, and its comforting to know that pain isn't a personal experience, but a human experience, Teasel.

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