posted April 14, 2016 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by RoseLily:

In fact, I think someone who willingly hides other's faults or flaws on the basis of being loyal is an hypocrite and not someone desirable in one's own circle. How can you improve if there's no one to keep you on track?

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posted April 14, 2016 07:36 PM            

This is why people are so crazy

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posted April 14, 2016 08:32 PM            

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Originally posted by deepseastar:
As soon as I saw Ami Anne posted this, I knew it was going to be about how Libra Moons are apparently worse than Hitler's and Stalin's gay antichrist love child. Air Moons have feelings too...

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My two closest friends each have a Libra moon. One is Virgo while the other is Capricorn. Tbh I don't know the exact time my Virgo friend was born because she could have been born with Scorpio moon, but her personality and emotional reactions speak of someone who's more Libra than Scorpio. They are my closest friends because they are extremely loyal and complement my Gemini moon I guess. The Capricorn friend I think is TOO loyal sometimes that I have to remind him when to recognise when a friendship is not worth holding onto any more and when to say no to someone when they're taking advantage of his helpfulness. He sometimes bends over backwards too much for those who have clearly shown that they take for granted what he does for them. His motto is to respond to hostility with kindness as it makes them feel bad. I tell him that's nice but unfortunately not everyone works that way and some respond to kindness with even more hostility LOL, but I digress. Anyway, point is there are some damn good Libra moons.

posted April 15, 2016 12:44 AM            

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Originally posted by deepseastar:
As soon as I saw Ami Anne posted this, I knew it was going to be about how Libra Moons are apparently worse than Hitler's and Stalin's gay antichrist love child. Air Moons have feelings too...

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LOL.

posted April 15, 2016 12:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
ROFL. Ain't no post without Air-moon bashing.

Ami, let's apply your logic to Air Venuses too, shall we?

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posted April 15, 2016 07:48 AM            

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posted April 15, 2016 11:26 AM            

I don't want you for a client, if you are not willing to face yourself.

I did a chart of a daughter who was an engineer.

She referred her mother, who was very superficial.

I hated doing her chart and that was the last time I accepted a client without feeling her out.

Well, I have another criteria. If you come to me complaining that everyone did you dirty, But *I* seem great, I won't accept it, either.

These people, always, are super complaining and pains in the derriere.

I interview everyone before I accept a chart. If you pull this politically crap BS on me, I say that I am not the right person for you..
Period End

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posted April 15, 2016 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
My way of doing Astrology is to be VERY honest. I don't want you for a client, if you are not willing to face yourself.

I interview everyone before I accept a chart. If you pull this politically crap BS on me, I say that I am not the right person for you..
Period End

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posted April 15, 2016 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
My way of doing Astrology is to be VERY honest. I have Jung conj the Sun.

I don't want you for a client, if you are not willing to face yourself.

I did a chart of a daughter who was an engineer.

She referred her mother, who was very superficial.

I hated doing her chart and that was the last time I accepted a client without feeling her out.

Well, I have another criteria. If you come to me complaining that everyone did you dirty, But *I* seem great, I won't accept it, either.

These people, always, are super complaining and pains in the derriere.

I interview everyone before I accept a chart. If you pull this politically crap BS on me, I say that I am not the right person for you..
Period End

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But infallible honesty is not always appropriate... Who does that help? If people are paying for your help (hence you've accepted them on as a client), I feel that it is your job to use your wisdom/intuition to tap into their needs. It's wise to understand the client and their needs and present information to them in a way that will be beneficial and empowering. This doesn't mean that you lie or manipulate facts, but present them in a way that they will both be able to digest and grow from.. I just find this to be SO crucial in people who are doing readings from a higher place of knowing (tarot, astrology, etc.) I have seen people be GREATLY damaged by fatalistic readings of seers who "tell it like it is" and were, honestly, not totally correct. None of us are coming from that place of absolute knowing, so we must be careful with what type of information we present people with and how we say it. Being a reader, many people value your opinion SO, so highly and this gives you a grave responsibility. People will put so much trust in your word, to the extent that they might manifest things you've said to them simply because they believe in it so deeply and trust you so much. I am not trying to criticize you in any way and really think you are very learned and knowledgable..

But, for example, if a woman who is very "superficial" comes to you asking for help, you must be able to see that she has built a dense cocoon of ignorance around her, not because she is bad, but because she is afraid... One has the option of dishing out a huge reality check to such a person, but why would one do such a thing? IN her current state she would be unable to hear, process, or benefit from such a thing? Instead, if you are dealing with someone superficial, you can meet them at THEIR level and suggest subtle changes that will resonate with them and that will not be so far out of their understanding that it will make sense. These changes they will be able to implement!

posted April 15, 2016 12:20 PM            

She said working with me was like intense therapy and she really, really appreciated having that opportunity.

She is the client I want--someone who wants to face themselves.

I am sick of people in denial, fighting with me, in order to retain their BS lol

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posted April 15, 2016 12:45 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
One little issue with that. Everyone ELSE besides you also has a right to be perfectly honest with you

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posted April 15, 2016 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

My last client was a famous actress in the UK, which was an honor for me.

She said working with me was like intense therapy and she really, really appreciated having that opportunity.

She is the client I want--someone who wants to face themselves.

I am sick of people in denial, fighting with me, in order to retain their BS lol

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Is the way that you look at air moons (and others) any different than saying that all African-Americans are thugs? Or that all middle eastern people are terrorists? Or that everyone who works in fast food are stupid? And on and on.

Nope. Same thing but you seem to think that it's truth in astrology and that everyone who doesn't agree with you is in denial. Sounds to me that YOU are the one who needs to face themselves, humble themselves, and have a reality check.

posted April 15, 2016 12:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
My way of doing Astrology is to be VERY honest. I have Jung conj the Sun.

I don't want you for a client, if you are not willing to face yourself.

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Define facing yourself, because you can be extremely biased in your dealings with astrology, despite the great undsertanding of astrology you have.

posted April 15, 2016 12:54 PM            

There is one way to heal, based on my experience, and that is brutal honesty. If someone does not want that, agree with that, I will find out in the pre-history and refuse to do the chart. Period end.

I nicely say that I am not the right person for them. I can't support any lies. My mother abused me. The only way out for me is total truth. That goes for everyone else, too. If they don't agree, find someone else. I don't need ANYTHING from AStrology except my integrity.

I don't need money from Astrology. I want to help those that appreciate my way of doing Astrology. If not, go elsewhere.

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posted April 15, 2016 12:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
When people are depressed,Dop, the REASON is being they are in denial.

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posted April 15, 2016 01:00 PM            

Facing yourself is accepting what the chart says--No whitewash

If you have nessus conj the ASC, you will be an abuser or struggle with wanting to be.

It is not your fault, but you will have some chance of healing, if you ACCEPT it.

If not, you are doomed, so don't come to me and try to get me to co-sign your BS.

People like to say that Nessus is all sorts of things, but that does not help people

Most Astrologers will validate your denial, so it is easy to find them cuz they are most of the ones out there.

I have a Masters in Counseling but most was not worth much, except for Primal and Gestalt therapy.

They make you face yourself and that is my mission cuz I give what *I* want and I want and need that.

You can never, ever, ever get over anything, if you won't face it.

I am your guide, if you want me to be, or else find someone else lol

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posted April 15, 2016 01:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]When people are depressed,Dop, the REASON is being they are in denial
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Oh really, so when I'm depressed over the possible death of my mother due to stage 4 breast cancer it's because I'm in denial?! This statement is a load of Bs, and I'm shocked that a Cancer Moon, who should be emotionally in touch with others, would come to such a ludicrous conclusion.

posted April 15, 2016 01:04 PM            

This is why I don't try to help people in denial.

They say ridiculous things like that

I mean long term depression as a "normal" way of life.

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posted April 15, 2016 01:06 PM            

No, seriously. I honestly laughed!!
No, I'm not depressed. I'm quite sure of that.

posted April 15, 2016 01:06 PM            

I don't need anyone or anything from Astrology, but to be true to myself lol

Take it or leave it

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posted April 15, 2016 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Oh really, so when I'm depressed over the possible death of my mother due to stage 4 breast cancer it's because I'm in denial?! This statement is a load of Bs, and I'm shocked that a Cancer Moon, who should be emotionally in touch with others, would come to such a ludicrous conclusion.

The problem here is that not everyone's minds work along the same set of ideas as yours, and therefore you just can't adapt to that. How can you possibly help people if you can't fit into their shoes?

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So sorry to hear that, Electro.

Don't pay too much attention to what you just read. And don't waste effort trying to put forth any points. It's like trying to draw water from an empty well.

Oh and, a Cancer moon with a degree in counseling to boot.

What you said, Ami - if it weren't so tragic, it would be comical. Heaven forbid any depressed client lands at your doorstep. You'd take their depression up a notch and make them suicidal.

posted April 15, 2016 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:

No, seriously. I honestly laughed!!
No, I'm not depressed. I'm quite sure of that.

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You, repeatedly, talk about being depressed on here.

I feel sorry for your troubles/sadness and depression and can relate.

However, you would be an example of a person who is incompatible with how I want to do Astrology.

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posted April 15, 2016 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

You, repeatedly, talk about being depressed on here.

I feel sorry for your troubles/sadness and depression and can relate.

However, you would be an example of a person who is incompatible with how I want to do Astrology.

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Where?