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posted August 14, 2015 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just stay friends with exes unless it ends badly. I have two exes who I cut out of my life on purpose. One was emotionally abusive and the other cheated on me with his ex/roommatefor a year. But the rest ended amicably and I hold no grudges. They were important in my life at one point and I certainly don't hate any of them. Granted I'm not BFF with them but I'm not one to say "oh we broke up, I hate you and want nothing to do with you ever again". I can understand how some people can't do that. But it's not in my intention to hook up with them again or anything. Because once I'm done with someone I am no longer romantically interested in them again. It's like magic, it just goes away and it's only platonic

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posted August 14, 2015 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
I'm an Aries Venus. It is conjunct with my Aries Mars which I have been told is like a Libra vibe. Not sure if that plays into part at all. I am on the Aquarius Pisces cusp as well- my birthday is February 19.

I also have a lot of guy friends. I used to have a lot more and was always friends with my exes. My ex boyfriend (Sagittarius) was extremely jealous and made me cut them out of my life. He even made me defriend people on Facebook. It was really hard on me and I hurt my friends in the process, including my exes which upset me a lot. But he said if I didn't cut them off then that meant I valued them more than the relationship. I should have ended it sooner with him lol. But I have always had more guy friends than girls. I just get along better with them. Girls are more judgy and uptight. I can be more relaxed with guys without having to worry they'll gossip about me behind my back- you know how girls are lol.


I had an ex pisces that had a ton of female friends/ex girlfriends, said he just got along better with girls and none of them meant anything more than just friends to him.
I trusted him and let it go. I'm a saggy sun/merc/nep btw.
Then he had to go work out of town... one of these girls got sent on the same job an old friend he said.
There was probably 20 ppl working with them so he was not alone with her...I trusted him.
Well...he ended up making out with this girl!
Then they met up again later just to "talk" about what had happen. He said nothing happened that time but whatever! All of which he kept from me.
He just kept being friends with her and flirting through FB. I never knew about it until he wanted to take me to a party where she was and she freaked out on him for bringing me. So much stupid drama!
I dropped him that second!!
Hes still trying to get me back but I'd prefer to have my finger nails ripped off than date him again!
Pluto conjunct Venus(me) doesn't handle or deal with that kind of stuff at all!
That's why if I was with a pisces and they wanted all those female "friends" he could have them, but he couldn't have me!

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
I'm an Aries Venus. It is conjunct with my Aries Mars which I have been told is like a Libra vibe. Not sure if that plays into part at all. I am on the Aquarius Pisces cusp as well- my birthday is February 19.

I also have a lot of guy friends. I used to have a lot more and was always friends with my exes. My ex boyfriend (Sagittarius) was extremely jealous and made me cut them out of my life. He even made me defriend people on Facebook. It was really hard on me and I hurt my friends in the process, including my exes which upset me a lot. But he said if I didn't cut them off then that meant I valued them more than the relationship. I should have ended it sooner with him lol. But I have always had more guy friends than girls. I just get along better with them. Girls are more judgy and uptight. I can be more relaxed with guys without having to worry they'll gossip about me behind my back- you know how girls are lol.


Please don't ever, ever, EVER - make the mistake of allowing such a tyrant to control your life and your choices - ever again!
That makes me shudder just thinking about it.

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posted August 15, 2015 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I see it the same way as you boyfrend honestly.

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posted August 15, 2015 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^.... Well, Polkadots simply said she had friends of both genders, and also stayed friends with some exes - and her Sagittarian bf "made her" delete them from her life.

That, my darling, is a control freak - and his behaviour was disgusting, on every level.

No one was stringing anyone along in her story.

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constantly be hanging out

Constantly?
She didn't say she was constantly hanging out with all of them. They were just friends!

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posted August 15, 2015 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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its disrespectful and hurtful to the person Im with if i were to stay friends with my exes. Even if they are cool with it, and even if my exes were awesome friends, I still would leave them behind

It's interesting you feel this way.. We're very different in this regard.

I could never leave an awesome friend behind, and I would be very suspicious of anyone who asks me to do such a thing :\

I would actually be kind of shocked that my bf would have the audacity to say something like this to me, so I probably wouldn't react at all - because it would take some time for this to "sink in".
But really - my only reaction would be: "How dare you?" or "Who do you think you are?"

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My reaction would be different if my bf had a mental disorder.
My ex suffered from a very serious illness and he was not completely aware of a lot of his behaviour (including his possessive behaviour).
For that reason I was - extra calm and kind... and tried my best to sort things out between us - in a way that wouldn't be psychologically damaging to him.

But I still wouldn't disregard genuine friends - for someone else, even if that someone *is* ill.

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posted August 15, 2015 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsAlohaPanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Hmmmm Some people are compatible with Pisces men, and some are not...
I think they mainly get a bad rep - from past relationships with personal sign women... Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer. Mainly ones with the Moon in those signs ^.

This is purely based on what I've been seeing around me (and in my own life) --> I would suggest that young women in their teens, 20s or 30s... who do not have one of the following Moon signs, should think twice about having a romantic relationship with a Piscean/Neptunian man:

- Scorpio Moon
- Capricorn Moon
- Aquarius Moon
- Pisces Moon


OOoh, good for my Cap moon then =))
Also Jupiter,6th & 7th (29°42') in Pisces, haha. Although I find them so different from me.. but maybe that's a good thing =)

@aquaguy91, @AlexandraWood:
Agreed.

@MineAgain:
That's the worst scenario, men with nice influences in their chart can and show character.

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Not sure why this is, but I have always been aware of the coldness. There is like a wall up around them. You only get in on their terms.

That is very noticeable - but hey, they say the quiet waters run the deepest.

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Originally posted by Faith:

Actually most of the women I know who married a Pisces were hand-picked and pursued with determination by the Pisces. It wasn't like they met at work, got along great, realized they had things in common...
No, more like the Pisces just realized "that's the one, that girl over there" and set about to win their love, sometimes marrying young or marrying after only knowing each other a short time.


Wow, had no idea thay can act like so.

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Still I have a lot of respect for Pisces men, I just think of them like Virgo on steroids, and adapt to them that way.


OMG I laughed so hard.

@polkadotstars:
Totally not only a Piescean thing!! I wasn't even aware that it's also your type of behaviour (silly me).

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posted August 15, 2015 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 15, 2015 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The conversation above about remaining friends with exes has me curious...is it really unusual for someone to keep their exes on FB? I thought that was standard.

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posted August 15, 2015 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think trust is really important, so if you are dating someone you trust, who trusts you back, exes shouldn't be an issue.

It's almost hard to talk about, because it's so rare that people trust each other deeply.

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I think, with trust, you should be able to be honest about your "wandering eye," if it wanders, and it shouldn't be a big deal. Attraction and devotion are two different things...

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posted August 15, 2015 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Come to think of it I think that might be a serious Pisces theme?...That they need some freedom to express their affection for others, within a relationship.

A while back I was talking to my Pisces friend (the one who was stalked by a Pisces at my wedding)...and she's married now and adores her husband, they are sickeningly cute...but she was telling me that she developed a crush on one of her co-workers.

So she told her husband about the crush and he just laughed.

She said, "What are you laughing about, this is serious. I REALLY like him. Aren't you mad?"

Her husband just laughed again and said, "Yeah, good luck with him. I'm sure you'll take it far."

He couldn't have cared less because he KNOWS my friend truly loves him, and she isn't going anywhere.

Well those two are another couple with Venus conjunct Venus in Pisces. (I have another friend with the same conjunction with her husband, and he will go to concerts with her, to see guys she has huge crushes on, and he thinks it's just funny.)

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posted August 15, 2015 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
if a guy really needs attention from a bunch of female friends and needs to string his exes along for any reason whatsoever, then we are just too different to ever be together. Even if there are zero feelings, I dont really want my boyfriend to constantly be hanging out with a representation of the memory of what he had with someone before. BUT I wouldnt stay with the person Id just jump ship.

Agreed!! My experience with the pisces and all his friends? Blew my mind! They don't have enough backbone to be in such a tempting situation and still say no, or at least he didn't! So why put yourself out there if your resolve in naturally weaker?
I don't need to hang out with all my exes and the only reason I would hang on is if there are still feelings, if there are then you need to go finish what you started, obviously it's not over!
My pisces ex asked me to marry him....then said he wanted his ex girlfriend to be his "best man" because she was his best friend. I said, if you want her standing next to you on MY wedding, you need to be marry her not me because I won't be there!

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posted August 15, 2015 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
The conversation above about remaining friends with exes has me curious...is it really unusual for someone to keep their exes on FB? I thought that was standard.

Typically, the first thing ppl do when they break up is unfriend each other and delete all their posts. I see it happen everyday! That's how I know ppl are breaking up before it's announced.

Of course every pisces I've ever dated always comes back and wants to friend me again. All the other guys only call if they want to rekindle something, pisces just wants my attention and for me to like all his stuff and hang out and have a drink.
Actually the cheater pisces I've been talking about just friended me again and wants to come visit, as a friend?? I'm like ummmm, NO!

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posted August 15, 2015 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I guess you just need to support and never crowd their freedom. Which is hard to do because once in a while youll need someone too. A good example of this is whenever I have a hard day, Ill try to talk about it, but my boyfriend will just talk about how he has it harder or how his life is worse. And if I dont give him the pity/support he wants he gets angry. But then my needs got completely ignored. But that might be in part because of his aries moon.

Pisces is a mutable sign and they can be well liked by others so...it can be tough on someone. I find Venus in Pisces to be more like this than Pisces sun. It would be very tough, imo, to have a normal, traditional type marriage with Venus in Pisces because there's always something going on that causes it to not be traditional. Maybe it is karmic lessons? It's easier for the sun Pisces with Venus in other signs to experience a good one on one relationship. People talk how Venus is exalted in Pisces and it does bestow a special gift of some sort when it is, or it can mean the most difficult life imaginable, so difficult, in fact, it can alter the perception of more sensitive types, and act as a catalyst for change. So, maybe that's another expression of Venus in Pisces? The special gift Venus bestows in this sign doesn't seem to spill over into relationships. In fact, it can draw destructive people into someone's life who are very jealous or dislike them for some reason, or victimize them. It really is the toughest place to have Venus, with the most suffering, from what I've seen.
Like with this friend I had, it was more like I had to help in ways no one else required helping rather than the normal type friendship but at the same time, it was an eye opening experience and it taught me, yeah I can feel sorry for myself and have plenty of times, but whenever I do, I know there's someone worse off and I could have to walk in their shoes if not for the grace of God, so maybe it's not as bad as I think? Then, it inspires me to want to help others who are worse off. This is one dimension of Venus in Pisces people don't realize, they think it's all about love and relationships but there's other dimensions to Venus, and gracefulness extended to those less fortunate. Sensitivity and awareness to their plight. Venus in Pisces can activate that energy. Then you discover, I can love someone who has these faults, the same faults I despise in others, because I know they have been through these awful experiences and I want to help. It's redemptive energy. This is what I learned from one particular Venus in Pisces. I always learn stuff from them.
Pisces teaches others to be accepting, maybe?

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posted August 15, 2015 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Come to think of it I think that might be a serious Pisces theme?...That they need some freedom to express their affection for others, within a relationship.

A while back I was talking to my Pisces friend (the one who was stalked by a Pisces at my wedding)...and she's married now and adores her husband, they are sickeningly cute...but she was telling me that she developed a crush on one of her co-workers.

So she told her husband about the crush and he just laughed.

She said, "What are you laughing about, this is serious. I REALLY like him. Aren't you mad?"

Her husband just laughed again and said, "Yeah, good luck with him. I'm sure you'll take it far."

He couldn't have cared less because he KNOWS my friend truly loves him, and she isn't going anywhere.

Well those two are another couple with Venus conjunct Venus in Pisces. (I have another friend with the same conjunction with her husband, and he will go to concerts with her, to see guys she has huge crushes on, and he thinks it's just funny.)


Wow...my libra Pluto conjunct Venus would be ready to spit fire with that! (Venus is my chart ruler)
I'd say, really? You should go for it then would to speak to them, look at them or acknowledge their existence for a week.
That's so incredibly rude, when you love someone you save your heart for them you don't just go throw it around to anyone and everyone, it's "throwing pearls before swine"
Love is sacred!! When you have someone who loves you and appreciates with every ounce of their being, you don't go share what's there's with other ppl causally. That's a good way to lose that love. Don't spread it around socially likes it's nothing.

That's the difference, some love one person with every ounce of their being...pisces loves everyone with every ounce of their being which leaves the ppl who love them like that out in the cold.
When I love someone they own me, to see someone else sexually or romantically is like treason to my love!
Anyone who does that to me, will be walking the plank!

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posted August 15, 2015 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's the difference, some love one person with every ounce of their being...pisces loves everyone with every ounce of their being which leaves the ppl who love them like that out in the cold.

I strongly disagree.

There are definite and clear-cut distinctions.

Well think of yourself, Gabby. You have a 12H moon. When you are in love with someone, can you honestly say that you have NO affection for any other man? All your affection for other men goes to nothing?

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posted August 15, 2015 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Pisces is a mutable sign and they can be well liked by others so...it can be tough on someone. I find Venus in Pisces to be more like this than Pisces sun. It would be very tough, imo, to have a normal, traditional type marriage with Venus in Pisces because there's always something going on that causes it to not be traditional. Maybe it is karmic lessons? It's easier for the sun Pisces with Venus in other signs to experience a good one on one relationship. People talk how Venus is exalted in Pisces and it does bestow a special gift of some sort when it is, or it can mean the most difficult life imaginable, so difficult, in fact, it can alter the perception of more sensitive types, and act as a catalyst for change. So, maybe that's another expression of Venus in Pisces? The special gift Venus bestows in this sign doesn't seem to spill over into relationships. In fact, it can draw destructive people into someone's life who are very jealous or dislike them for some reason, or victimize them. It really is the toughest place to have Venus, with the most suffering, from what I've seen.
Like with this friend I had, it was more like I had to help in ways no one else required helping rather than the normal type friendship but at the same time, it was an eye opening experience and it taught me, yeah I can feel sorry for myself and have plenty of times, but whenever I do, I know there's someone worse off and I could have to walk in their shoes if not for the grace of God, so maybe it's not as bad as I think? Then, it inspires me to want to help others who are worse off. This is one dimension of Venus in Pisces people don't realize, they think it's all about love and relationships but there's other dimensions to Venus, and gracefulness extended to those less fortunate. Sensitivity and awareness to their plight. Venus in Pisces can activate that energy. Then you discover, I can love someone who has these faults, the same faults I despise in others, because I know they have been through these awful experiences and I want to help. It's redemptive energy. This is what I learned from one particular Venus in Pisces. I always learn stuff from them.
Pisces teaches others to be accepting, maybe?

Great comment.

Well my friends with Venus in Pisces married others with Venus in Pisces, and they are all very happy.

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posted August 15, 2015 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can think of one example of Venus in Pisces being with someone they didn't really like that much or even seem to love while that person was completely obsessed with them, and she happened to be a Taurus sun with Aries Venus. So they can be pushed into being with someone they don't really want to be with based on how much the other person wants to be with them. It was not a good situation and only led to heartache because it reached the point, the woman in the relationship was spending a lot of money they didn't have just to get even with him for not really being in love and she had credit cards in both their names run up really high on spending sprees then she would tell people they were just together because they couldn't afford to get divorced due to the credit card debt. This eventually ended up in bankruptcy then divorce.

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posted August 15, 2015 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Great comment.

Well my friends with Venus in Pisces married others with Venus in Pisces, and they are all very happy.


Maybe they understand each other, or need another water sign Venus?

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posted August 15, 2015 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So they can be pushed into being with someone they don't really want to be with based on how much the other person wants to be with them.

Mmmm...yes.

Well my Venus conjunct Neptune has functioned like that.

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posted August 15, 2015 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Maybe they understand each other, or need another water sign Venus?

They totally understand each other. The Pisces I mentioned above, who told her husband about her crush....

They both fell in love with each other at first sight and they slept together that first day which is TOTALLY unlike my friend, to do that....

But she knew he was The One and had no reservations with him.

My other friend with Venus Pisces has been with her Venus Pisces guy forever, and she said to me recently, "I have no experience with dysfunctional relationships. I don't even know what to say to people who are in dysfunctional relationships."

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