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Topic: venus is Sagittarius - unfaithful?
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2637 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted October 23, 2015 12:18 AM
on another note, my supposedly boring venus also trine jupiter ,conjunct uranus/neptune/mars ... In 9th house ...Maybe I am the cheater Also, if one has a stellium in 5th, that person is gonna vibe Leo ... which wants all of your attention. Not necessarily cheating placements ... IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2862 From: AC-Neptune Quintile AMOR Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 12:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by ScorpAqua: I'm a Solar Scorpio male with Venus in Sag. I can tell you I absolutely do not believe in monogamy, but am upfront about it from the first date.
My uncle is the same way, I love his style though and respect his thinking, and he has the reverse; sun in sag with venus in scorpio conjunct Jupiter and square saturn and pluto, he has moon in gemini too. Everyone knows who he is; he does not hide it. He only married once and it was brief and she left him bc he was unfaithful..He doesn't belief in monogamy but did fall in love once and that is the one time he married... IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2862 From: AC-Neptune Quintile AMOR Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 12:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by athenaia: "High Ideals" is a great summation of his character, actually! He also has a Scorpio Venus (detrimental, fixed energy) so while he's only had 4 girlfriends in the 37 years he's lived, they've all been for YEARS because he's so picky that when he finally chooses, he'll stick with the decision until the very grim end. Mercury is at 12° Sun is at 13° Neptune is at 17° Mars is at 25° Plus the 5th is a fixed house so I imagine the "stubborn" elements of Leo only exacerbate the (at it's worst) "holier-than-thou" vibes of Sag once Sag commits to a decision. The Neptunian flavor of the stellium would only add to someone being leery of this particular generation of Sagittarius I imagine - mutable worsening mutable! But if the energy suits you.. this type is capable with commitment. It'll have its flirtations on the side, but Sag is an extremely high minded and principled sign at the height of its powers. If it has it in his head that emotional/physical cheating is not what they want to represent, they will ardently choose not to. Not out of the "this isn't me!" stance of a fixed sign, but out of the distaste that mutables can have for a particular quality in a person. If Gem, Sag, Virgo or Pisces don't like something, they will NEVER wear that role in their lives. You know?
As I suspected his Sun conjuncts tightly mercury and neptune and VERY widely mars; that says a lot. If it was the reverse Sun conjunct exact Mars and very widely mercury and neptune there would Maybe be some potential for cheating if other factors in the chart also align but with as is cheating is highly doubtful. IP: Logged |
Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 847 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 12:58 AM
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theunknown Knowflake Posts: 2637 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted October 23, 2015 01:02 AM
Mars Venus square can cause cheating too. So is Mars-moon or Venus-moon squares. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2862 From: AC-Neptune Quintile AMOR Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 01:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: I REALLY think you need to look at there mars sign because im a venus in sagittarius and one thing i can say is im prone to quick crushes over girls BUT i dont cheat i would NEVER cheat now if i had a fire or maybe any other mars but cancer haha maybe i might actually act on my "urges" i kno some girls who would willingly mess with me and kno i have a gf suprisingly one is a venus in scorpio she tried so hard to seduce me and we both were drinking i literally had a clear chance to do whatever i wanted she even wanted me to sleepover at the end of the night and she told me she doesnt care that i have a gf cuz shes better lmao!!!! Yet i still turned her down i just cant cheat its not "in" my sexual nature But u want to know whats funny? She has a leo mars i feel like looking at someones venus can show the potential of a "cheater" but the mars sign is going to show if they act or not
Mars and Venus in Leo is very in touch with what she wants romantically and Desires and is not shy about showing it or going for what she wants..
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themischievousone Knowflake Posts: 598 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 23, 2015 01:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: We are not a sexual sign AND we cheat like crazy. Non-sexual, rabid cheaters. Weird.
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angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 2099 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Oct 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 01:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by themischievousone:
Yeah laugh all you want. IP: Logged |
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 2099 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Oct 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 01:25 AM
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Readytochill Knowflake Posts: 118 From: In my head Registered: Sep 2015
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posted October 23, 2015 01:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: I REALLY think you need to look at there mars sign because im a venus in sagittarius and one thing i can say is im prone to quick crushes over girls BUT i dont cheat i would NEVER cheat now if i had a fire or maybe any other mars but cancer haha maybe i might actually act on my "urges" i kno some girls who would willingly mess with me and kno i have a gf suprisingly one is a venus in scorpio she tried so hard to seduce me and we both were drinking i literally had a clear chance to do whatever i wanted she even wanted me to sleepover at the end of the night and she told me she doesnt care that i have a gf cuz shes better lmao!!!! Yet i still turned her down i just cant cheat its not "in" my sexual nature But u want to know whats funny? She has a leo mars i feel like looking at someones venus can show the potential of a "cheater" but the mars sign is going to show if they act or not
Oh dear.. :X that girl sounds like me with her thinking she's better lol AND I'm a Leo Mars as well. Gotta love those Leo planets lol I think it's a mix of Mars and Venus that indicates cheating. IP: Logged |
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 2099 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Oct 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 01:33 AM
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Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 847 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 03:15 AM
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Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 847 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 03:22 AM
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2862 From: AC-Neptune Quintile AMOR Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 03:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: Hell yea I love those leo planets i have aqua asc/moon i get along very well with leos there just FUN! 👌
Likewise.
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sweetbee01 Knowflake Posts: 29 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 07:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by sarahhm: i'm wondering about you guys experience with venus in sag.. so far all i've met and got to know have been unfaithful
Me too. I am a venus in scorpio and just made a thread about how vis reacts after being cheated on. The sag guy I dated for 2.5 years cheated for 9 months and said he loved me everyday those 9 months. After I found out he still says he loves me! Sag venus seem to be cheaters by nature. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 1556 From: The land of WP Registered: Jun 2015
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posted October 23, 2015 07:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by angel4845: another placement that i feel isn't honest or isn't sure what they mean is those with mercury in pisces and/or venus in pisces.
It depends. I was very close to a Venus in Pisces that I would easily trust. They were highly saturine. (Is that a word??) So there are modifiers to everything. People change, learn, grow, etc. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 14609 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 23, 2015 10:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: You fit my perception of venus in sag prone to very guilty conscious, your mars in gemini is the curious one and venus in sag is like how dare you! and then you would end up being honest about your slip ups and ending the relationships bc venus in sag has very high ideals and prone to excessive guilt IMO.....and your slip ups didn't even go all the way, they involved kissing only but that was enough for you to feel so bad you had to tell them which is the honest thing to do but not practical but not saying something would go against your beliefs so you had to and that was more important even if it meant you ending it or losing the relationship...
Thank you ~ you understand completely! That feels so good. I have a difficult time being married because my own standards are really high. As I said and deleted, I've only been with my husband these past 17 years. But occasionally I've had feelings for someone else. Even if they didn't reciprocate, my thought was, "Oh god I'm 'emotional cheating,' I better get divorced now." But my husband would not grant that. (And I'd miss him like hell if he did, btw) It's just not simple like was when I was young and could just break up and walk away whenever I slipped up. 'Can't keep everything pure and new over the decades, things are bound to happen that trigger my guilt complex...but the bottom line is I think most couples who stay married a long time have to sustain these damages and be able to cope with imperfection, which is hard. Especially in a culture that finds imperfection so distasteful. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 14609 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 23, 2015 10:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by angel4845: i stopped seeing that girl right away because i could not be emotionally investing myself with someone while i' m in a relationship.
Same here...if I start feeling something I usually flick on the Capricorn ice machine and will myself to stop feeling it, or remove myself from their company. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 14609 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 23, 2015 10:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: i feel like looking at someones venus can show the potential of a "cheater" but the mars sign is going to show if they act or not
Right...well Venus shows tastes and preferences and it may indicate how a person "shops around" for love. Libra Venus may "upgrade" when they find someone more beautiful than their current partner, Cancer Venus may move on when they find someone who stirs them emotionally...Sag Venus is drawn to people who are highly intelligent and exotic. If we cheat more often, perhaps the involvement of Jupiter may cause us to "inflate" our perceptions of people, so they seem more appealing and larger-than-life, and that makes the temptation stronger. Speaking for myself, I usually know it's just my imagination and wouldn't think to act on it...I almost never acted on it, even when I was completely single, no boyfriend or anything. I have retrograde Mars semisquare Saturn, and Mars square moon...that has restrained me a lot over the years. PS I agree with you about Mars in Leo. Married one IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7412 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 23, 2015 02:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by angel4845: OMG......this sounds like my friend lol.i' am so sorry omg what placements in synastry did you have with her?
I lost the detailed charts and notes I had, but I do recall her 7H was Libra, and I have a Libra stellium (Mercury, Venus, Saturn, Pluto, and she shared a Saturn-Pluto with me). Meanwhile, her 1H stellium was my 9H, and we shared a Sag Neptune that fell in her 9H. A professional astrologer had told us that we should only make a brief fling out of what we had, but we tried for more. It felt so good while it lasted (even for her since she fought harder than I did to keep us together) but it's like intoxication...you try to keep it up at that level and sooner or later things are going to take a turn for the worse. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2862 From: AC-Neptune Quintile AMOR Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 02:23 PM
^ Faith; I don' typically cheat on a physical level, I mean I did for a few months out of over 8 years of being together so even though I feel tempted I don't act on it, its rare if I do and I don't think I ever will act on it again bc when you act on it it gets intense and complicated so after that experience I feel I have avoided it acting on it again bc although part of me desires very much to experience that intensity, a part of me just as strong doesn't want to be bothered with an affair or complicate my life or feel guilty about it or lie and hide things...But I do cheat emotionally and mentally. One example, I love my husband but never got over my ex but I wouldn't leave my husband for my ex so its like I love them both in a different way... I can understand why people don't believe in monogamy perfectly, I can also understand why people get hurt when they are cheated on. As a female with venus and mars in leo in the 8th I can be jealous and expect fidelity but as a female with moon in the 3rd in pisces and Sun and mercury in the 9th with mercury ruling my 7th I can understand perfectly on an intellectual level why cheating happens and the problems with monogamy etc.. So the result is a girl that can understand the biological reaction to infidelity and the human expectation of fidelity but understand as well intellectually the need for diversity, human's curious nature and human's ability to love more than one person romantically. My husband and I have discussed open relationships and he says "you like to think you are soo open minded and that you can handle an open relationship but you cant, you wouldn't." LOL........ And he might be right although I don't want him to be, he has seeing my venus-mars in leo in the 8th side in action!!!!!! HA. But he also sees my moon in the 3rd, sun and mercury in the 9th and descendant in gemini side who doesn't care that much and wants to give him a free pass and walks away hoping he will flirt with the waiter/server a little.... ....so yeah I am a mess but at least an interesting mess LOL IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 2862 From: AC-Neptune Quintile AMOR Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 03:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Right...well Venus shows tastes and preferences and it may indicate how a person "shops around" for love. Libra Venus may "upgrade" when they find someone more beautiful than their current partner, Cancer Venus may move on when they find someone who stirs them emotionally...Sag Venus is drawn to people who are highly intelligent and exotic. If we cheat more often, perhaps the involvement of Jupiter may cause us to "inflate" our perceptions of people, so they seem more appealing and larger-than-life, and that makes the temptation stronger. Speaking for myself, I usually know it's just my imagination and wouldn't think to act on it...I almost never acted on it, even when I was completely single, no boyfriend or anything. I have retrograde Mars semisquare Saturn, and Mars square moon...that has restrained me a lot over the years. PS I agree with you about Mars in Leo. Married one
Love your upgrading feedbacks/analogies. I am going to add my own: Venus in scorpio/8th may feel tempted to upgrade for someone who makes them feel more intensely. Venus in cancer will upgrade for someone who makes them feel more secure. IP: Logged |
Readytochill Knowflake Posts: 118 From: In my head Registered: Sep 2015
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posted October 23, 2015 03:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Love your upgrading feedbacks/analogies.I am going to add my own: Venus in scorpio/8th may feel tempted to upgrade for someone who makes them feel more intensely.
Wow, I didn't think of that one. Or even Venus square Pluto. I need intensity and when I don't feel it anymore, I try to build up the intensity somehow and when it dies down once again, I freak out and yearn for that intensity again.
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erickaf Knowflake Posts: 1257 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2014
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posted October 23, 2015 03:21 PM
I have this placement...I have been unfaithful unfortunately!IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 3161 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 23, 2015 04:20 PM
I had a Venus in Sagittarius cheat on me... Just putting that out there..But really everyone is different. If they're more inclined to by the placement that doesn't necessarily mean they will! IP: Logged |