posted February 16, 2016 11:37 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
*takes notes*

"Do Not address deepseablues in the future"
"They have no comprehension. Missed the point that psychic care often fails because the patient lacks effort in helping themselves and expects Dr. to perform magic."

Got it.

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posted February 16, 2016 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I think the issue you call "OCD" could stem from Aries Mars square Cap Neptune and Cancer Jupiter-Chiron.

Aries Mars wants to DO something now (!), but Cap Neptune needs it done perfectly, and Cancer Jupiter is going to feel any problems amplified.

Jupiter is exalted in Cancer.

The emotions are clearer and easier to grasp with a Jupiter Cancer person. Positively speaking, this can make a person very intuitive, colorful, loving...
Negatively they can get overwhelmed pretty easily. They need boundaries.

Traditional astrology would say that the solution to that t-square lies in the planet OPPOSITE the apex, so look around 12 Libra.

My Pluto is at 11 Libra, so you might say, it's providential that we're talking.

If you consider this an emotional, spiritual crisis you're in....consider that you have JUPITER (religious planet) conjunct CHRION (wounded healer) opposed by transiting PLUTO at the moment. That is going to pass. That will not always be this intense.

Like you, I have Jupiter and Chiron in my 9th house. My Jupiter is actually conjunct your Mars. My sun conjunct your Neptune. Well we actually have even more conjunctions than that. But anyway, I've been through many religious issues and phases. I've obsessed over this stuff in my past.

So...what about just trying to quiet your mind?

You know that Bible verse...

Be still and know that I AM God. Psalm 46:10

You have an 8H Mercury which is well suited for that...just clearing your mind and being silent. Forget words, labels, stuff like the term "OCD"...that is all tied in with our culture and time. But you know, God is timeless. So, hook onto that understanding.

There's a lot you can learn through astrology about why things happen as they do, and that can give a person peace...also, just wholesome habits. It's not complicated.

You do have to monitor your thoughts, aim for more quiet inside.

Your moon is sextile your NN and you can rely on basic instincts to help you transcend (Aqua NN) above all these troubles, but the game plan cannot be to overcome and push through all obstacles in your way. More like, learn to take quantum leaps over them. I think you are equipped for that, you just have to quiet your mind, I think.

Hope that helps a bit. Hope you feel better soon.

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P.S. I think you should think long and hard before taking any medication.

posted February 16, 2016 11:46 AM            

Another thing that channels the energy constructively is to have some sort of creative outlet. If any of the forms of art (writing, painting, making music, etc) - appeal to you, perhaps you could express yourself there as well.

...and then of course, there's the actual physical activities. Mundane as it may sound, going for a long, long run or an intense workout might also help you release that energy..

posted February 16, 2016 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
*takes notes*

"Do Not address deepseablues in the future"
"They have no comprehension, see only what they want to. Missed the point that psychic care often fails because the patient lacks effort in helping themselves and expects Dr. to perform magic."
"Special magical rules apply to certain threads so I shouldn't post in them"
"Doesn't realize nor has likely studied for themselves how medication works and what exactly the medical field DOES know. It's not like throwing in a grenade and crossing your fingers"

Got it.

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Never said psychic care. I don't understand where or how you correlate holistic healing with psychic care? Cause they are vastly different.

Yes I have studied both sides, in fact many sides, and yes I have studied pharmaceutical medicine. You haven't studied both sides therefore you actually have less knowledge and information than me.

Believe or not it was once my dream to be a psychiatrist, but thankfully I woke up

You also hear what you want. The OP asked people not to post if they share your opinion. You are too close minded to see anything other than your narrow view. But that's ok cause western medicine was made for people like you who like to stay brainwashed and who have low mental capacity

Smh.

A quote from wiki- your favourite go to for info:

"Lithium salts are classified as mood stabilizers. How they work is not specifically known." http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_(medication)

You should requote with my whole edit I didn't delete any of the original just added more

@darksoul18:

I hope you are feeling a bit better and calmer today.

posted February 16, 2016 11:52 AM            

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Originally posted by deepseablues:
Never said psychic care. You also hear what you want. The OP asked people not to post if they share your opinion. You are too close minded to see anything other than your narrow view. But that's ok cause western medicine was made for people like you who like to stay brainwashed and who have low mental capacity

Smh.

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I've tried many of the things recommended. Exercise, meditation, yoga, herbal treatments, creative outlets, walks in nature, used to play horseshoes sometimes when I was losing it (somewhat helped).
I found help in western medicine that FINALLY worked and has been for a few years now. (After several failed attempts - people get frustrated and quit. I thought about it a lot)

But don't listen to the guy who's found success in it. (By far his best successes, and understands how frustrating it can be) That's just stupid, right? If I've been brainwashed, I like it. 👍

** astrology has also been very helpful.

posted February 16, 2016 01:27 PM            

I was reading your post and this song started playing in my head.

@darksoul

Yes, PLEASE do study astrology and learn those terms. If you have the money, consider a reading by a professional astrologer.

I recommend Rick Levine...not only is he my very favorite astrologer but he has many, many things in common with you, astrologically:
http://stariq.com/pagetemplate/main.asp

But, just in general terms: any astrologer could tell you that you are at an objective, astrological crisis point because of where Pluto is transiting now.

It will pass, if you let it. If you hang on trying to make sense of it, by any means other than astrology, you could miss the whole intellectual reason, and struggle more than you need to.

I think you don't need an intellectual reason to meditate and still your mind.

But if you are determined to find reasons for how you feel, please look to astrology. It's valuable, it's technically and verifiably accurate. All you need to do to see how true it is, is study it first-hand. There is no substitute for that. It's in your hands. You are *this* close, there's a REASON you are here, so grasp the golden ring, just take it.

posted February 16, 2016 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
@Elysia

I was reading your post and this song started playing in my head.

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Omg, I was just listening to Jeff Buckley's version of that same song on my playlist...

posted February 16, 2016 02:11 PM            

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But don't listen to the guy who's found success in it. (By far his best successes, and understands how frustrating it can be) That's just stupid, right? If I've been brainwashed, I like it.

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Happy for you & I know others like you.

posted February 16, 2016 02:17 PM            

I was very willing to look at and thoroughly examine my issues, but it seemed that many I went to were not really qualified to do more than listen, nod, and barely scratch the surface with insipid advice.

This may be due to the fact that I inherently analyze myself, have been through a lot of group therapy already, and have worked in mental health, so blabbering bland, catch-all crap at me doesn't work. It's also not helpful if they're not willing to work with you, but are more interested in talking AT you.

After a few years of feeling pretty down about the prospects, I did finally find a wonderful therapist who was also an energy healer. I saw her every week for over a year, and if I go back I would prefer to see her again, rather than chance wasting my time and money elsewhere.

posted February 16, 2016 02:20 PM            

Glad you finally found what works!

I'm like that with medical doctors.

posted February 16, 2016 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:

I found help in western medicine that FINALLY worked and has been for a few years now. (After several failed attempts - people get frustrated and quit. I thought about it a lot)

But don't listen to the guy who's found success in it. (By far his best successes, and understands how frustrating it can be) That's just stupid, right? If I've been brainwashed, I like it. 👍

** astrology has also been very helpful.

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Didn't know that about you !

posted February 16, 2016 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I was going to ask you if you were listening to that song.

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posted February 16, 2016 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't see that as devil's advocate, it's just your experience.

Glad you finally found what works!

I'm like that with medical doctors.

I don't trust most but would LOVE to have one I trusted.

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Yep, ditto for medical doctors, lol.
Having a degree and patients does not make you competent!
I've had medical doctors and nurses make some seriously idiotic mistakes when I've gone in for various reasons (mostly they've made assumptions that have been incorrect). Then again, I've met some who were great.

posted February 16, 2016 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Didn't know that about you !

I know someone on mood stabilizers too. It helps. They have BPD.

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Thanks!

I used my Virgo. Haha

posted February 16, 2016 02:50 PM            

I am glad you are reaching out.

I highly recommend you get help from someone who works with energy healing. It saved my life, and can transcend the thinking/emotional cycles that get stuck, feeding back into the imbalance. http://thereconnection.com/
Find someone in your area and ask for help. Persist. Make whatever arrangements it takes.

Astrology will of little help you now as your current suffering overwhelms your capacity for processing such symbolic information.

Transcendence is called for. A shift of energy.

posted February 16, 2016 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Thanks!

I used my Virgo. Haha

It took me right around 20 years to figure it out. 20!!
Some years I'd have real issues, other years were milder. It sort of depended on what was going on in my life at the time. But finally I was thinking about it all. Finally I put together that it ALWAYS occurred during a 2-3 month period in the summer. Always the summer time. Along with some other patterns. So finally I went once more and thought, "ok. This information has to be important."
I was very key in figuring it out. Finally we got it as those patterns really solved it.
After that, man. My relationships picked up, though I've been very very frustrated at times with my career it has picked up. I focus so much better and stay on task. I just really feel good.
I get a little attitude, as you can see. But that's all in my chart. 😀
Mercury conjunct mars for one. Putting a little Aries fight into that mercury.

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20 years..is a long road, yes. But don't be too hard on yourself. Even this fellow, and others I know, have been exhibiting symptoms for over a decade and never realized.
This is one conclusion no-one should jump to, so that makes sense. Partly an erring-on-the-side-of-caution kind of thing? And partly other factors...

Glad to hear the meds worked and your personal & professional lives picked up. Gives me hope for my friend.

Do you still get the episodes in summer, milder versions or not at all...?

posted February 16, 2016 03:00 PM            

WINTER offers to let go of what is not needed anymore. Underground it's getting ready for spring with it's new ideas and new ways. Not now. Now is stillness and calm. Tune in.
Choose that or choose to finish the circle of season with yet another anchor of restriction, of cannot, will not or resistance. In your body this will be set. It carves it's way every round. When you choose to let go there will be room for the new and you will start the circle anew.

Enjoy the song, feel it and choose to let go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQuki_8COXs

posted February 16, 2016 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
20 years..is a long road, yes. But don't be too hard on yourself. Even this fellow, and others I know, have been exhibiting symptoms for over a decade and never realized.
This is one conclusion no-one should jump to, so that makes sense. Partly an erring-on-the-side-of-caution kind of thing? And partly other factors...

Glad to hear the meds worked and your personal & professional lives picked up. Gives me hope for my friend.

Do you still get the episodes in summer, milder versions or not at all...?

Btw, that's a nice way to describe Mercury conjunct Mars, I hear ya.

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Mmm. I do get very very mild symptoms from time to time. So mild that they almost sneak up on me. Granted, last year career wise was one of the most stressful that I've had in my life! Ugh. Long story, but it's a lot better now.
I do get in a little funk and by surprising me I mean this. Sometimes I'll get a few moments of silence and suddenly it hits me, "Hey, I've really been in a funk. What's going on?" Sometimes I figure out that I've been working too much (too much Virgo. LOL) or that I haven't spent enough time doing things alone. (lot of 12th!) Or simply that there's some external thing, like irritations at work. Sometimes it's just a funk! But so mild that I really can almost will it away or fix it with a little walk, things like that. So I do think meditation and exercise, things of that nature can really help. But when it's some deep doo-doo, man. Might be time to take more drastic action. I think the medication takes the bulk of the work. 98% really. Then that 2% is really easy to deal with.

posted February 16, 2016 05:05 PM              

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Originally posted by DopGang:

I've tried many of the things recommended. Exercise, meditation, yoga, herbal treatments, creative outlets, walks in nature, used to play horseshoes sometimes when I was losing it (somewhat helped).
I found help in western medicine that FINALLY worked and has been for a few years now. (After several failed attempts - people get frustrated and quit. I thought about it a lot)

But don't listen to the guy who's found success in it. (By far his best successes, and understands how frustrating it can be) That's just stupid, right? If I've been brainwashed, I like it. 👍

** astrology has also been very helpful.

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Medication doesn't fix habits nor thoughts it only alters the chemical/physical components of the brain and body. It is nothing more than a physical consumption that the body takes in. Anyone can drown themselves in alcohol to "escape" from their pains in life but that doesn't actually address the problem at hand that you are facing. I don't know what is so hard to understand about this? What physical components of whatever medication you are talking about will fix my thoughts for me? There is no medication that will do this. This is an emotional, spiritual, and intellectual battle, not a chemical/physical one.

There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance. I can see that you are typing your brain is working fine. The only thing wrong is the fact that I don't understand what you mean when you say that you've "looked into" these medications so deeply and you "know how they work"..... well how do they work? Other than altering chemical and physical components of the body how do they work to achieve anything other than zoning a person out and making them feel like a zombie? Sure if you want to use it as a placebo effect go ahead but I'd rather not put harmful chemicals into my body. Especially when a psychiatrist just says.... "Here you go, take this and you'll see results in about a month or 2.".... ummmm.... ARE YOU PHUCKING INSANE!!!!!! NO!!!!!

posted February 16, 2016 05:17 PM            

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I don't take any SSRI myself because they weren't right for me and one did make things worse. But one also made things a lot better. You just look for a quick fix and give up when something doesn't work and that's your problem.

Nah nevermind. Since you know everything already.

posted February 16, 2016 05:21 PM              

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Btw, if you don't mind my asking - how is the situation with friends/family...? As in, do you interact with them, or do they even know what you are going through?
One of the things that might help is getting it off your chest (in person, not online) - i.e. confiding in a trusted friend/family member. But only if you feel there's someone who will understand. I realize you may not want to, and that's cool - I'm just laying down an option.

Another thing that channels the energy constructively is to have some sort of creative outlet. If any of the forms of art (writing, painting, making music, etc) - appeal to you, perhaps you could express yourself there as well.

...and then of course, there's the actual physical activities. Mundane as it may sound, going for a long, long run or an intense workout might also help you release that energy..

Faith's take on this is well worth listening to - especially the part about it being a phase. This too shall pass.

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posted February 16, 2016 05:25 PM              

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Originally posted by DopGang:
It's like dealing with two year olds.

Good luck with that. I'm WELL aware how they work. I'm WELL aware that they are chemicals. Jeez. It really does show that you know NOTHING about them other than they exist and are chemicals. Would you like to know how SSRI works?

Nah nevermind. Since you know everything already.

I'm out of this thread.
Smh.

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posted February 16, 2016 05:26 PM            

You got this, right?