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hypatia238
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posted February 21, 2016 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Plus, there's only so much one can do by way of help, online. If the person in question is serious about what they claim they want to do, then it's highly difficult to get in their head and actually 'reach' them. Their minds are already closed off, as a sort of defense mechanism."

My clinical gut tells me his mind is just as closed off 'offline' too.

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posted February 21, 2016 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No he definitely did not get bullied.

But he was baiting people and that could have led to harsh words being spoken to him which in turn could have been taken out of context. It's pretty far-fetched to think that could end up in court, but things like that DO happen, so I would err on the side of caution and protect the whole forum by removing the person.

Hopefully he called 911 or something. We were not the people who could help him.

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posted February 21, 2016 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
"Plus, there's only so much one can do by way of help, online. If the person in question is serious about what they claim they want to do, then it's highly difficult to get in their head and actually 'reach' them. Their minds are already closed off, as a sort of defense mechanism."

My clinical gut tells me his mind is just as closed off 'offline' too.


Yep, I agree.

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posted February 21, 2016 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
No he definitely did not get bullied.

But he was baiting people and that could have led to harsh words being spoken to him which in turn could have been taken out of context. It's pretty far-fetched to think that could end up in court, but things like that DO happen, so I would err on the side of caution and protect the whole forum by removing the person.

Hopefully he called 911 or something. We were not the people who could help him.


You should be supervising a department, your sun in cap is totally on it right now!

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posted February 21, 2016 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
No he definitely did not get bullied.

But he was baiting people and that could have led to harsh words being spoken to him which in turn could have been taken out of context. It's pretty far-fetched to think that could end up in court, but things like that DO happen, so I would err on the side of caution and protect the whole forum by removing the person.


Yeah, you never know.

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posted February 21, 2016 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
Plus, there's only so much one can do by way of help, online. If the person in question is serious about what they claim they want to do, then it's highly difficult to get in their head and actually 'reach' them. Their minds are already closed off, as a sort of defense mechanism.

He was looking for a very specific *something*. While I don't know what that is, it seems he got disappointed that he didn't find exactly the line/thought/motivation/reason he was looking for. All else is white noise. Though, he appreciates the effort in a way - maybe it didn't resonate with something inside him.

Or, maybe he was just looking for affirmation of 'special-ness' of the chart.


Yes

Actually he was most interested in the unspeakable thing Ami wouldn't tell him...

Latching onto "reasons" to be dark, I guess.

It's all crazy...

I wish him well and have nothing more to say.

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posted February 21, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Yes

Actually he was most interested in the unspeakable thing Ami wouldn't tell him...

Latching onto "reasons" to be dark, I guess.

It's all crazy...

I wish him well and have nothing more to say.


Exactly! Thank you, I was wondering about the reason I thought so - you found it for me.

Yes, let's wrap this thing up.
We wish him well and hope he sees reason.

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posted February 21, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
There is nothing more annoying than someone who says they want help but clearly do not want any help and are just seeking attention and to boost their ego. I agree with the comment you left on the other thread but did not have a chance to respond to it.

BTW someone who is truly suicidal tends to not announce it and just acts on it, this is specially the case with males. This is what its typically called a cry for help except he doesn't want help, he has been offered help again and again but he refuses it bc he is an expert and knows better than everyone. He takes the route of not taking responsibility for doing what is truly needed to better his mental health and just blaming counselors and the health care system instead for not getting better. Our health care system is not my ideal but plenty of people do get help this way.

Like he posted in another thread 'satan' is why people are gay, there is so much he wants to teach us and he is not interested in learning from us bc he is too smart already.


Very true. Not only from my own personal issues that I've fought but unfortunately I've known of a few males who have followed through with suicide. Friends of friends or friends of family. In every case of completed suicide, people were shocked and had no idea. I read one of the letters, which was a poem, and it made sense to me. Yet it never makes sense to stop fighting to make your life what you want it to be.
I don't mean to sound like we shouldn't take each threat seriously. That's ultimately the correct thing to do.

I think the specific something that he was looking for was a connection to something bigger than us - Astrology. Which is kind of what we all do. I remember doing it for similar reasons. (my 12th - which caused me a lot of mental anguish and depression) I think he was looking for someone to look and say, "This, this is why you feel this way but you have such and such hidden talent that you can unlock but haven't found." etc. He seemed shut off to the idea that humanity could offer help and more that the answer to his troubles must be coming from something bigger than us. That's what I gathered.

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posted February 21, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You should be supervising a department, your sun in cap is totally on it right now!

Thanks

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posted February 21, 2016 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He seemed shut off to the idea that humanity could offer help and more that the answer to his troubles must be coming from something bigger than us. That's what I gathered.

Precisely.

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posted February 21, 2016 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He got bullied and that is what happens to COUNTLESS new people on here, so don't try to spin it!

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posted February 21, 2016 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend, Dave, just left because he got bullied.

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posted February 21, 2016 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
My friend, Dave, just left because he got bullied.


Leo-Dave?

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posted February 21, 2016 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES
Leo Dave

He asked a question and many people attacked him.

This has been happening since I got here and I HATE IT!

I hate bullying and then the bullies get all holier than thou lol

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posted February 21, 2016 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:

Yes, let's wrap this thing up.

I think that's a great idea!
I think it's about to get ugly in here.

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posted February 21, 2016 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 21, 2016 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaminess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"He asked a question and many people attacked him.

This has been happening since I got here and I HATE IT!

I hate bullying and then the bullies get all holier than thou lol"

I have seen this too. i think people should be able to ask both negative and positive questions without being attacked but it seems like some people here can't handle anything negative that is being said about their placements. It was obvious that leo- dave did not have anything against virgos he was actually drawn to them but some people completely ignored that part. It was just ridiculous.

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posted February 21, 2016 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Condoowit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I'm not weighing in on the bullying issue, b/c I'd rather stay out of that drama, but I just want to say to darksoul18, my offer stands and will continue to stand. I hold myself to a very high standard of ethics and morality and would never bullsh** another human being or perform a healing which I thought could in any way cause harm to that person.

I have grown up surrounded by difficult people and then I married one, so I am very thick skinned about me offering help and someone rejecting it. Rolls off my back, and I don't hold a grudge.

If you are in distress darksoul18- I am here for you to speak with or otherwise communicate with. Just ask Randall for my email address and make sure that the title of the email makes it clear that it's not junk mail, so I don't accidentally delete.

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