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Topic: Was wondering if maybe I could seek some help..?
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darksoul18 unregistered
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posted February 16, 2016 08:05 PM
"For you, it is as if you have been on a fast for 3 months and are HUNGRY lol""That is how important this question is to you" Well, why am I here!!??? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 66477 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 16, 2016 08:07 PM
I could tell you but I don't think you would listen  ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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posted February 16, 2016 08:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I have a 9th House Gemini stellium. We have Sun conj Sun and your Mercury conjunct my venus lolDue to my 4 planet 9th House stellium, I, always, wanted to know why I was here. I searched until I found my answer. You are very different in that Chiron( the planet of pain) conjuncts Jupiter, which makes Chiron more intense. Your search for the answer has a great deal of pain with it.
Am I here to suffer to bring others out of it? I've always thought of myself as some kind of helper of some kind. I just didn't know how to fuel it with anything other than rage. What do I have to accomplish to be able to help others? IP: Logged |
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posted February 16, 2016 08:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I could tell you but I don't think you would listen 
What...? Is this something we should discuss in private? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 66477 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 16, 2016 08:11 PM
First of all, you have a purpose. This can be seen in the chart through the NN, as well as other things BUT you were not born to have a tortured life. You were born to find your answers, do work you enjoy and feel you matter. I can promise you this! ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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posted February 16, 2016 08:14 PM
Why did you tell me to take a look at the Lucifer asteroid?Also, what do you mean by"You could tell me but I probably wouldn't listen?" IP: Logged |
mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 339 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted February 16, 2016 08:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by darksoul18: Am I here to suffer to bring others out of it? I've always thought of myself as some kind of helper of some kind. I just didn't know how to fuel it with anything other than rage. What do I have to accomplish to be able to help others?
Hi darksoul18, this thought of yours makes the point of Ami Anne actually more accurate, as Chiron is not only about pain, but about healing, too (Chiron is the wounded teacher/healer as you possibly know). I don't think I can really help you as I have just now began to study astrology, too, but I couldn't help but pop-in, as I have a little brother, with Sun in Gemini in 9th House, Scorpio Ascendant and Pluto in the 1st house, like you do! I really wish you all the best! All will get better for you! 
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 66477 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 16, 2016 08:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by darksoul18: Why did you tell me to take a look at the Lucifer asteroid?Also, what do you mean by"You could tell me but I probably wouldn't listen?"
Lucifer wants to do things his own way. I suspect you are that way. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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posted February 16, 2016 08:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Lucifer wants to do things his own way. I suspect you are that way.
Yes I am very rebellious and independent. What about my 2nd question though? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 66477 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 16, 2016 08:19 PM
Not here, my Friend lol ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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darksoul18 unregistered
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posted February 16, 2016 08:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Not here, my Friend lol
What in the hell? Well then where at? IP: Logged |
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posted February 16, 2016 08:26 PM
Could you even list the category that it pertains to? Or not?IP: Logged |
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posted February 16, 2016 08:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by mar1982delta: Hi darksoul18, this thought of yours makes the point of Ami Anne actually more accurate, as Chiron is not only about pain, but about healing, too (Chiron is the wounded teacher/healer as you possibly know). I don't think I can really help you as I have just now began to study astrology, too, but I couldn't help but pop-in, as I have a little brother, with Sun in Gemini in 9th House, Scorpio Ascendant and Pluto in the 1st house, like you do! I really wish you all the best! All will get better for you! 
Yes I have questioned and researched Chiron before. The problem is I don't know how to heal. Thanks for the comment though. The only way I've ever been able to heal is through anger but I don't know if I am able to do so anymore. I feel like even THAT has been stripped away from me. IP: Logged |
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posted February 16, 2016 08:33 PM
Okay Ami, you've definitely got my attention. I'm gonna go eat some Chinese food and if you want to tell me or come up with a way to tell me in private some how then that is your choice. Just know, that this WILL bother me for the rest of my life. FWIW I'd do anything to help you and I hope you get to feeling better yourself.Thanks IP: Logged |
mar1982delta Knowflake Posts: 339 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted February 16, 2016 08:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by darksoul18: Yes I have questioned and researched Chiron before. The problem is I don't know how to heal. Thanks for the comment though. The only way I've ever been able to heal is through anger but I don't know if I am able to do so anymore. I feel like even THAT has been stripped away from me.
Oops, I meant sun in gemini 8th house. I think that healing can be achieved through the themes of the house involved, in this case 9th house, which is about studies, higher learning, travels and spirituality. Earlier Faith pointed it out to you the anger themes that you mentioned, which are expressed through the connection of Jupiter/chiron/Mars. You say that you could heal trhough anger, but probably this was just an "illusion" (Neptune) you might say, as your pain simply got bigger and never healed, instead it kept hurting you. Also, Faith mentioned about tr.Pluto which is currently opposite your jupiter/chiron conjunction, so this explains why you desperately need a REAL solution NOW. But this is just a phase, so be patient if you can, it shall pass!  Sorry if I can't be more of a help here!
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 66477 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 16, 2016 08:53 PM
The other thing you have, which is very hard, is that your NN is Unaspected. It is very hard for you to feel you have a life purpose and/or to find it.Asteroids will help and will be more important, as far as Asteroid conjunctions to the NN. I feel that what I have to say about God will not be received by you, right now, so let's put it on the back burner for now. xxxx ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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posted February 16, 2016 09:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: The other thing you have, which is very hard, is that your NN is Unaspected. It is very hard for you to feel you have a life purpose and/or to find it.Asteroids will help and will be more important, as far as Asteroid conjunctions to the NN. I feel that what I have to say about God will not be received by you, right now, so let's put it on the back burner for now. xxxx
That's like telling a bear he cannot have his salmon. Look, it may not be received but is it not just information? IP: Logged |
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posted February 16, 2016 09:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: My husband had a very good friend who had pretty serious OCD, and Klonopin worked pretty well for him. I think he took 2 mg per day, but I understand what you're saying about OCD being a fear-based disorder. I think sometimes that's very possible, but of course I'm not sure how one would go about addressing that, unless you were able to find a fantastic therapist who specialized in OCD treatment? 
The only person capable of helping someone with a true OCD crisis is someone that has been through it and beat it themselves and even then it can be HELL on Earth.
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posted February 16, 2016 10:02 PM
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Violets Knowflake Posts: 5466 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted February 16, 2016 10:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by darksoul18: The only person capable of helping someone with a true OCD crisis is someone that has been through it and beat it themselves and even then it can be HELL on Earth.
Okay, I'll take your word on that. I know that it does precious little good for non-addicted people to try to act as counselors to addicts and alcoholics, because they are essentially reading from a text book, and sound like blithering idiots most of the time when they try to counsel said addict/alcoholics. Perhaps it does take an insider's knowledge for OCD as well, I'm certainly not an expert on the subject. But I'm sorry that you're having such a difficult time right now. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 1996 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted February 16, 2016 10:06 PM
I don't understand how if you seem to have all the answers why you are even asking for help. Doesn't make sense. IP: Logged |
darksoul18 unregistered
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posted February 16, 2016 10:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: Okay, I'll take your word on that. I know that it does precious little good for non-addicted people to try to help addicts and alcoholics, because they are essentially reading from a text book, and sound like blithering idiots most of the time when they try to counsel said addicts/alcoholics. Perhaps it does take an insider's knowledge for OCD as well, I'm certainly not an expert on the subject. But I'm sorry that you're having such a difficult time right now.
Thanks for understanding. Look, people with OCD know how ridiculous their OCD is. I don't know, that's why I think there is some kind of supernatural aspect to it, like, demons... but hey what do I know? I'm just a human. Alls I know is that a lot of people that have OCD were once very normal people and then something very disturbing happened to them, or something inside of their minds... I don't know. Trust me it sucks and I don't wish it on anyone. It's as if someone was like, "Hey guess what, you know how you used to be happy without conflict? Yeah well, too bad! Now you're screwed!" Oh well, gee, thanks??? The reason I say this is because you mentioned one of your friends that has OCD. Trust me, your support is definitely needed but there is no "schooling" involved with people that (like you said) literally have no clue what we are going through. I wish I knew what it felt like to get sick again let alone go through this living Hell. If I got sick it'd be like..... ptch..... what's sick? OCD is a bich. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 1259 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted February 16, 2016 10:15 PM
darksoul18,I was highly perfectionistic in my youth. I had a shame-filled adolescence with unhealthy sexual attitudes and actions in my home. I had to grow up with demonology lurking in church and home, constantly blocking my clear view of God is Love. I never experienced OCD, but I suffered severely disordered eating in a terrified manifestation of depression in my mid-20s. No one can ever know your exact suffering, but if you block the compassion and wisdom of others who have already overcome such suffering, then you accomplish nothing, but to heap misery upon your own misery. People are here listening to you, reaching out, because you have reached out, and because they care enough to want to help you. It is up to you to commit yourself to the end result of being healthy and in balance. If you cannot see it for yourself now -- decide it, and grab hold of it with your gut! I hope you have not overlooked my previous urging to transcendent healing. There are indications in your chart now that you could benefit from a homeopath (prog Jupiter contra-parallel natal/prog Neptune). Know where you can find one in your area? It may not be a quick fix, but there's great potential for long-term benefits if you find a good one to work with one-on-one. Understanding that there is no quick fix is very, very important for you, because your birth chart shows markers of great restlessness and impatience. You must 'work' any healing modality by first starting with your own intention to heal -- that's a commitment to yourself. Have you looked into hypnosis as a way of digging into why you have such (existential?) rage? Coming to your own direct, internal awareness is of far greater value than more words, opinions, interpretations tilted or diluted by any personal beliefs on our parts out here. re: 'unpasected North Node' -- nope: You have no more, no less a potential/destiny than anyone else. Ami is intuitive, very insightful, and if you can benefit from anything else she has given you, please do. But there is no deficiency with the Nodes in your chart. These aspects indicate that you will move forward in life based on your ability to express strong feelings, passions. These will lubricate your progress. So it is good that you can feel and express anger, passion, whatever. Mercury's exact trine to N.Node indicates communication and intellect play a key role. However, that does not mean you can solve all your problems using the intellect, or by talking around them. Your birth chart has Sun [22N22] Parallel Jupiter [22N38], indicating a tendency for big ideas, grandiosity, overconfidence, or at least a desire to do things big. Both these are contra-parallel Uranus [23S31], indicating a tendency for big, but erratic changes, alternating lines of action, restlessness, possibly extremism in the form of dramatic outward vacillation. But such polar aspects are scales upon which to balance such energies. We all have to learn it. When you add this to Moon-Mars square Uranus, you have quite a bit of potential volatility. Moon applying square Uranus is also an indicator of a personality with the tendency to hold oneself aloof from others, a reactionary, a touchy person whose nervous system is too easily keyed up or easily rubbed wrong by others. You can be equally annoying to them. However, the lessons inherent in Moon square Uranus are discovering your internal originality and uniqueness and finding balance your own way. I also have this aspect in my birth chart, so don't think I'm picking on you. I know it very well. I also had to learn to find relief from depression, frustration, perfectionism -- by sampling and accepting help even if it was disappointing or did not produce much. *The lesson is as much in reaching out and accepting compassion where it can be had, as in any 'fix.' Part of your purpose in life is to be in touch with and stay in touch with all passions, anger, sexuality, strong feelings -- and to express them! Anyone or anything that has told you these feelings are 'wrong' are wrong themselves. They are your reality! Find balance for yourself with them, within them, by directing them, and in accepting transcendence of them! I wish you many blessings, my friend, and most of all the true healing that is perfect for you. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Modern professional astrology - expert rectification IP: Logged |
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posted February 16, 2016 10:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: I don't understand how if you seem to have all the answers why you are even asking for help. Doesn't make sense.
Trust me you don't want to know. I don't have all the answers. I came here asking astrological experts if they could read my chart and tell me something that could possibly point me in a better direction that could potentially help me. The thing with OCD is we know what we are going through is ridiculous but we can't help ourselves. We can... I mean it's possible but extremely difficult. That's why I said that it is a habit. Most people with OCD are experts because for them to even diagnose themselves with OCD in the first place would mean that they would've had to of done research on the created disorder in the first place. It's as if we have created a Hell on Earth for ourselves that we can't escape. Yes, you're right, it is as stupid as you think it is. IP: Logged |
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posted February 16, 2016 10:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: darksoul18,I was highly perfectionistic in my youth. I had a shame-filled adolescence with unhealthy sexual attitudes and actions in my home. I had to grow up with demonology lurking in church and home, constantly blocking my clear view of [b]God is Love. I never experienced OCD, but I suffered severely disordered eating in a terrified manifestation of depression in my mid-20s. No one can ever know your exact suffering, but if you block the compassion and wisdom of others who have already overcome such suffering, then you accomplish nothing, but to heap misery upon your own misery. People are here listening to you, reaching out, because you have reached out, and because they care enough to want to help you. It is up to you to commit yourself to the end result of being healthy and in balance. If you cannot see it for yourself now -- decide it, and grab hold of it with your gut! I hope you have not overlooked my previous urging to transcendent healing. There are indications in your chart now that you could benefit from a homeopath (prog Jupiter contra-parallel natal/prog Neptune). Know where you can find one in your area? It may not be a quick fix, but there's great potential for long-term benefits if you find a good one to work with one-on-one. Understanding that there is no quick fix is very, very important for you, because your birth chart shows markers of great restlessness and impatience. You must 'work' any healing modality by first starting with your own intention to heal -- that's a commitment to yourself. Have you looked into hypnosis as a way of digging into why you have such (existential?) rage? Coming to your own direct, internal awareness is of far greater value than more words, opinions, interpretations tilted or diluted by any personal beliefs on our parts out here. re: 'unpasected North Node' -- nope: You have no more, no less a potential/destiny than anyone else. Ami is intuitive, very insightful, and if you can benefit from anything else she has given you, please do. But there is no deficiency with the Nodes in your chart. These aspects indicate that you will move forward in life based on your ability to express strong feelings, passions. These will lubricate your progress. So it is good that you can feel and express anger, passion, whatever. Mercury's exact trine to N.Node indicates communication and intellect play a key role. However, that does not mean you can solve all your problems using the intellect, or by talking around them. Your birth chart has Sun [22N22] Parallel Jupiter [22N38], indicating a tendency for big ideas, grandiosity, overconfidence, or at least a desire to do things big. Both these are contra-parallel Uranus [23S31], indicating a tendency for big, but erratic changes, alternating lines of action, restlessness, possibly extremism in the form of dramatic outward vacillation. But such polar aspects are scales upon which to balance such energies. We all have to learn it. When you add this to Moon-Mars square Uranus, you have quite a bit of potential volatility. Moon applying square Uranus is also an indicator of a personality with the tendency to hold oneself aloof from others, a reactionary, a touchy person whose nervous system is too easily keyed up or easily rubbed wrong by others. You can be equally annoying to them. However, the lessons inherent in Moon square Uranus are discovering your internal originality and uniqueness and finding balance your own way. I also have this aspect in my birth chart, so don't think I'm picking on you. I know it very well. I also had to learn to find relief from depression, frustration, perfectionism -- by sampling and accepting help even if it was disappointing or did not produce much. *The lesson is as much in reaching out and accepting compassion where it can be had, as in any 'fix.' Part of your purpose in life is to be in touch with and stay in touch with all passions, anger, sexuality, strong feelings -- and to express them! Anyone or anything that has told you these feelings are 'wrong' are wrong themselves. They are your reality! Find balance for yourself with them, within them, by directing them, and in accepting transcendence of them! I wish you many blessings, my friend, and most of all the true healing that is perfect for you. [/B]
Yes, I feel that you are correct. As most of my problems stem from perfectionism and lack of control. Thanks for the very detailed analysis and I appreciate the work you put into trying to help me. IP: Logged | |