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Topic: The Capricorn Man: Does it ever stop being about them?
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 12329 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 23, 2019 04:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by MoonsOfJupiter:
Anyone wanna set me up with their stable, boring Taurus brother or something? Signed - Crab/Sag who's OVER IT (but not over him).
hahahahhahahahaha Thanks for making me laugh.. I hope you find a better fit for you girl! I feel you though, I am like we either do this or don't do this and he wants to stay in that middle place and I don't have patience for that personally. I am glad you got to kiss him though. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 12933 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2019 05:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by MoonsOfJupiter: Hi all. I wanted to give an update here (in case it's relevant to anyone, and also as a resolution to all you lovely souls who gave me good advice). I did it, y'all. "Mounted him", so to speak. Made my move and kissed him, after one too many instances of him playing the boyfriend role with me. It very quickly became sexual, even though that wasn't my intention. Alas, he was like a thirsty man in the dessert. Unfortunately, things didn't go so well thereafter (emotionally). "I'd be heartbroken to lose this friendship" BLAH BLAH BLAH. I was pretty gutted but I accepted it, whatever dude. That was July. Since then, he is contacting me more than ever, basically going back to exactly how it was before, but ten times more intense. No more intimacy, though, but A LOT of contact and attention. Too frakkin' confusing for me, dudes. Methinks he wants a pretend girlfriend without the girlfriend. The relationship experience without the relationship. Disappointed with the Goat man, I must say. Currently trying to distance myself, but it's tough to do with him calling and texting all day every day. Anyone wanna set me up with their stable, boring Taurus brother or something? Signed - Crab/Sag who's OVER IT (but not over him).
You are hilarious, but I wonder what he thinks will happen when you do find someone who wants to fully be your boyfriend. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 24, 2019 05:11 AM
Signs are not people, and people are not Signs, but speaking in the purely archetypal sense, since Capricorn is the 10th Sign which has been through 9 other stages and is close to the end of the Zodiac, Pisces, which represents ego death, Capricorn is not particularly self focused. In the purely archetypal sense, it's the first 4 Signs that are very self focused, with (mid) Aries taking the cake. This doesn't mean that there aren't selfish men born under the Sun Sign of Capricorn. Of course there are. If they have very strong Mars, Saturn, Pluto, and/or Mercury (especially if a combo of two or more of the former), with weak Sun, Jupiter, Neptune, and Venus, then the chances of them being towards the selfish increases quite a bit. Then there is freewill. Even someone born with a faster vibratory chart, can retrogress, or vice versa for someone with a slower vibratory chart, they can grow and expand beyond same. In any case, purely astrologically speaking, planetary energy is stronger and more concentrated than Sign, and especially so in relation to the Ascendant and First House planet placements, and to a slightly lesser degree the MC and the 10th House. As far as I'm currently aware, every Sign based research study has failed miserably. But there is at least one Planetary based one which has statistical merit. Btw, I'm a male and was born under Capricorn Sun and Mercury, and was born a hyper empath. To the point that when I was very young, I was so open and aware of others and the world at a feeling, heart, and psychic level, that it was very painful and heavy/oppressing experience for self. Capricorn contributes some as an indicator to this, but it's more the combo of very strong Jupiter, Neptune, and Venus, with moderate Moon, and angular Pisces S. Node (7th House). Also, the ruler of the 12th, the Moon, is conjunct the traditional, faster moving ruler of my Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Descendant Signs. This means that though the 12th House itself is empty, 12th House matters and areas of life, becomes more highlighted and amplified than normally would be, since the ruler of same is conjunct such an important, sensitive, and receptive symbol in the chart. When I think of an older Soul born under Capricorn, I think of the line of a song, "See the man with the lonely eyes, take his hand, you'll be surprised, I know". There are immature, middle aged, and old Souls born under every Sun Sign. It's the older Souls who are most attuned to Love and have the most integrity, ethics, empathy, honesty, and all that is positive and creative-constructive in essence whatever Sign they are born under. I've personally known old Souls born under each Sign, and I've known very immature Souls born under each Sign. The more immature the Soul, the more selfish they tend to be. This cannot be fully read in a chart (because of the wild card factor of freewill), but glimpses of probable patterns can be to those very trained and whom have a very, very holistic grasp of astrology and charts (which takes a lot of integration and balance between developed intuition and linear logic). Ime, this relates far more to relative Planetary strengths to passivity, than to Sign highlighting. IP: Logged |
MoonsOfJupiter Knowflake Posts: 37 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted September 24, 2019 02:31 PM
@hypathia - Amen. Middle place is for losers. But I guess we all wonder into it every once in a while. The kiss was delicious. The sex was less spectacular, but had potential. Ah, ya little farm goat, I don't know why you still call though...@teasel - I guess we'll find out, cause by the looks of it, he plans on sticking around quote closely for that moment. Dillutinoid. @galacticcoreexplosion - damn, can we get dinner? I'll pick your brain while you pick at your food. You sound like my Virgo Venus dream. By the way, he is Moon Virgo, Merc Sag, Venus Scorp, Mars Pisces. Don't know rising. Probably Narcissist rising. Love sucks, y'all. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted September 25, 2019 12:40 PM
Lol at Moons of Jupiter. I'm too "out there" for most people it seems. More seriously, I find that most people don't have an interest in connecting more deeply with this odd Fish-Goat. During a particularly lonely period when almost all attempts of connecting more deeply with others (males, females, undetermined) fell flat and deeply wondering WHY, I had a very vivid dream. Was at a school that self normally didn't go to, and was in the background helping the other students. But when I tried to connect more deeply with the other students, it was almost like I was invisible or a ghost to them. I felt lonely and wondered why the lack of reciprocity. Caught a glimpse of self's reflection in a pane of glass, and observed that self was much older looking than the other students, with a beard and a sense/feel of deep maturity, and most of the students I was interacting with were children to teenage years in age. Expanded self/guidance was saying that it was no one's fault, but just a natural energetic reaction. Different wavelengths and all. People prefer and are drawn to those on a similar wavelength as themselves at a deeper, Soul level. I find because of this difference in wavelength, others often deeply misunderstand and misconstrue me as to intentions, motivations, behavior, etc. It's been a very lonely life and path. This isn't to say that I don't have friends and social connections, cause I do, but it seems to be kept at a more casual and acquaintance like level, rather than the deep, connected levels that I would prefer. This is me singing my dad's song about my experience as a child with hyper empathy and the deep, spiritual conversations we had when I was young: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg43X3A3sZI IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 12329 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 25, 2019 01:17 PM
hahah TBF I feel love is great, is romantic love that is fickle by nature...IP: Logged |
DRVM614K Knowflake Posts: 405 From: Tugsten Depths Province, SA Registered: Nov 2018
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posted October 05, 2019 01:56 PM
Pluto is transiting cap still. So all Capricorns are having a rebirth of the ego. Ego=all about me helloIP: Logged |
Moonbeth Knowflake Posts: 370 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted October 05, 2019 02:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: Signs are not people, and people are not Signs, but speaking in the purely archetypal sense, since Capricorn is the 10th Sign which has been through 9 other stages and is close to the end of the Zodiac, Pisces, which represents ego death, Capricorn is not particularly self focused. In the purely archetypal sense, it's the first 4 Signs that are very self focused, with (mid) Aries taking the cake. This doesn't mean that there aren't selfish men born under the Sun Sign of Capricorn. Of course there are. If they have very strong Mars, Saturn, Pluto, and/or Mercury (especially if a combo of two or more of the former), with weak Sun, Jupiter, Neptune, and Venus, then the chances of them being towards the selfish increases quite a bit. Then there is freewill. Even someone born with a faster vibratory chart, can retrogress, or vice versa for someone with a slower vibratory chart, they can grow and expand beyond same. In any case, purely astrologically speaking, planetary energy is stronger and more concentrated than Sign, and especially so in relation to the Ascendant and First House planet placements, and to a slightly lesser degree the MC and the 10th House. As far as I'm currently aware, every Sign based research study has failed miserably. But there is at least one Planetary based one which has statistical merit. Btw, I'm a male and was born under Capricorn Sun and Mercury, and was born a hyper empath. To the point that when I was very young, I was so open and aware of others and the world at a feeling, heart, and psychic level, that it was very painful and heavy/oppressing experience for self. Capricorn contributes some as an indicator to this, but it's more the combo of very strong Jupiter, Neptune, and Venus, with moderate Moon, and angular Pisces S. Node (7th House). Also, the ruler of the 12th, the Moon, is conjunct the traditional, faster moving ruler of my Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Descendant Signs. This means that though the 12th House itself is empty, 12th House matters and areas of life, becomes more highlighted and amplified than normally would be, since the ruler of same is conjunct such an important, sensitive, and receptive symbol in the chart. When I think of an older Soul born under Capricorn, I think of the line of a song, "See the man with the lonely eyes, take his hand, you'll be surprised, I know". There are immature, middle aged, and old Souls born under every Sun Sign. It's the older Souls who are most attuned to Love and have the most integrity, ethics, empathy, honesty, and all that is positive and creative-constructive in essence whatever Sign they are born under. I've personally known old Souls born under each Sign, and I've known very immature Souls born under each Sign. The more immature the Soul, the more selfish they tend to be. This cannot be fully read in a chart (because of the wild card factor of freewill), but glimpses of probable patterns can be to those very trained and whom have a very, very holistic grasp of astrology and charts (which takes a lot of integration and balance between developed intuition and linear logic). Ime, this relates far more to relative Planetary strengths to passivity, than to Sign highlighting.
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Moonbeth Knowflake Posts: 370 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted October 05, 2019 02:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: More seriously, I find that most people don't have an interest in connecting more deeply with this odd Fish-Goat.
I am almost only interested in connecting deeply with Capricorns! lol (Capricorn moon ) I can relate to the imrpession you describe, I've always felt 80 somehow...
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MMarie Knowflake Posts: 726 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted October 05, 2019 02:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: Signs are not people, and people are not Signs, but speaking in the purely archetypal sense, since Capricorn is the 10th Sign which has been through 9 other stages and is close to the end of the Zodiac, Pisces, which represents ego death, Capricorn is not particularly self focused. In the purely archetypal sense, it's the first 4 Signs that are very self focused, with (mid) Aries taking the cake. This doesn't mean that there aren't selfish men born under the Sun Sign of Capricorn. Of course there are. If they have very strong Mars, Saturn, Pluto, and/or Mercury (especially if a combo of two or more of the former), with weak Sun, Jupiter, Neptune, and Venus, then the chances of them being towards the selfish increases quite a bit. Then there is freewill. Even someone born with a faster vibratory chart, can retrogress, or vice versa for someone with a slower vibratory chart, they can grow and expand beyond same. In any case, purely astrologically speaking, planetary energy is stronger and more concentrated than Sign, and especially so in relation to the Ascendant and First House planet placements, and to a slightly lesser degree the MC and the 10th House. As far as I'm currently aware, every Sign based research study has failed miserably. But there is at least one Planetary based one which has statistical merit. Btw, I'm a male and was born under Capricorn Sun and Mercury, and was born a hyper empath. To the point that when I was very young, I was so open and aware of others and the world at a feeling, heart, and psychic level, that it was very painful and heavy/oppressing experience for self. Capricorn contributes some as an indicator to this, but it's more the combo of very strong Jupiter, Neptune, and Venus, with moderate Moon, and angular Pisces S. Node (7th House). Also, the ruler of the 12th, the Moon, is conjunct the traditional, faster moving ruler of my Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Descendant Signs. This means that though the 12th House itself is empty, 12th House matters and areas of life, becomes more highlighted and amplified than normally would be, since the ruler of same is conjunct such an important, sensitive, and receptive symbol in the chart. When I think of an older Soul born under Capricorn, I think of the line of a song, "See the man with the lonely eyes, take his hand, you'll be surprised, I know". There are immature, middle aged, and old Souls born under every Sun Sign. It's the older Souls who are most attuned to Love and have the most integrity, ethics, empathy, honesty, and all that is positive and creative-constructive in essence whatever Sign they are born under. I've personally known old Souls born under each Sign, and I've known very immature Souls born under each Sign. The more immature the Soul, the more selfish they tend to be. This cannot be fully read in a chart (because of the wild card factor of freewill), but glimpses of probable patterns can be to those very trained and whom have a very, very holistic grasp of astrology and charts (which takes a lot of integration and balance between developed intuition and linear logic). Ime, this relates far more to relative Planetary strengths to passivity, than to Sign highlighting.
I have moon conjunct sun by 2 degrees and moon is the ruler of my 12th house. I am a Leo sun, moon and ASC so the sun is my chart ruler. So this would add 12th house qualities? (Also have Jupiter in 12th and Venus in 12th conjunct ASC.) IP: Logged |
Moonbeth Knowflake Posts: 370 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted October 05, 2019 02:28 PM
From one Moon to another, I don't think what you described is anything particularly Capricorn, but yes it happens, very human. (unfortunately) I laughed too at how you put some things out there, thanks for that I hope the next one realises how valuable you are, this cappy's loss ^^ There should be a law forbidding reaffirmation of the friend zone after sex. FFS, tis not so complicated: - Friends with benefits/one night stands are contracts that need to be verbalised and agreed to by both parties prior to acting on them (think of it as an actual part of consent because it bloody IS!). - Unlabelled sex is to be handled as mattering. - The Friend zone is NOT a European country, you don't go in and out of it just because you identified as "from the area". You either friend zone people or get into their knickers. I mean if you don't care enough about someone to try dating them, how can you pretend to care about their friendship after having had sex with them? "O, sorry, I briefly stopped caring from the second you kissed me til right after I came, but I care anew now, let us be merry friends again" kiss my arse, "friend".IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 12933 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2019 05:09 PM
I think friends with benefits, just going back to friends could work if you’re compatible enough for that, but not actually living together/getting married. I’ve never done that, though. Despite the Gemini venus stereotypes out there. I used to associate sex with a big love, like Leo Cancer (?) talks about in her threads. Now I’m not so sure. IP: Logged |
Moonbeth Knowflake Posts: 370 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted October 05, 2019 05:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I think friends with benefits, just going back to friends could work if you’re compatible enough for that, but not actually living together/getting married. I’ve never done that, though. Despite the Gemini venus stereotypes out there. I used to associate sex with a big love, like Leo Cancer (?) talks about in her threads. Now I’m not so sure.
I believe everything can work every way depending on the players as long as there's respect. If nothing is said between the participants before then I think and feel the respectful thing to do is to assume it's serious, not because it's the norm but it's because it's the one that could cause the most damage. Let's say I want to go to bed with a nice fellow I've just met just for fun and I don't have the care of asking him where he stands beforehand. The least I can do is not disappear right after as if we had agreed to that M.O. If you don't know, stick around to make sure you're not over breaking them, but really, check beforehand, it's not a mood killer at all if you do it at the right time (pro tip: when your hands are nearing their crotch is NOT said time . Now let's say I'm SO in love with that bloke and I fancy him crazy, it's only fair to let him know if he gets into my knickers then he belongs to my Pluto sextiles and I'll pull an Ophelia if he cruelly sends me to a nunnery (self +50 for the Shakespeare nod, I love you William ) I can see FwB going back to friends, if both have a relationship with their bodies that makes sex an activity in itself and not strictly an expression of love (which usually is the case of people who engage in FwB in the first place), then why not? I had friends like that, had at it like bunnies, then stopped whenever one was in a relationship, then resumed when both single. Ended up married to other people, still friends  IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 06, 2019 12:03 AM
"LOVED reading this" Am glad you enjoyed it Moonbeth.  IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 06, 2019 12:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by Moonbeth: I am almost only interested in connecting deeply with Capricorns! lol (Capricorn moon ) I can relate to the imrpession you describe, I've always felt 80 somehow...
Welcome to the club of the unwelcome Moonbeth... I have one friend whom I feel very close to in a spiritual way, and who I feel pretty much completely understands and accepts me (even more than my Twin Soul in some ways). Interestingly, he had an extremely similar "school" dream. Problem is, he lives on the west coast and I'm on the east coast. It would be nice to find at least one person who lives close by and with whom I can spend some time with. The way he deals with this loneliness is by meditating consistently and communing with his Expanded self and guidance system/team. I need to do this more myself. It definitely helps. However, it's easier for him as he lives alone and is retired, and I live with multiple people, work, etc. I do feel grateful for my Twin Soul though we don't fully resonate on a spiritual/energetic level. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 06, 2019 12:46 AM
"I have moon conjunct sun by 2 degrees and moon is the ruler of my 12th house. I am a Leo sun, moon and ASC so the sun is my chart ruler. So this would add 12th house qualities? (Also have Jupiter in 12th and Venus in 12th conjunct ASC.)" Provided your chart is very accurate, then yes, this would show a highlighting/boosting of 12th House type matters and areas of life. More than what would be normally/typically, though you have some direct 12th placements. The 12th House deals with some of the most hidden, unconscious, deep, subtle, transcendent, mysterious, sacrifice oriented, etc, etc areas and matters of life. It's not uncommon for folks with highlighted 12th House to experience various different kinds of nonphysical, psychic, and/or spiritual oriented situations, events, perceptions, insights, etc. IP: Logged |
Moonbeth Knowflake Posts: 370 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted October 06, 2019 05:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: Welcome to the club of the unwelcome Moonbeth... I have one friend whom I feel very close to in a spiritual way, and who I feel pretty much completely understands and accepts me (even more than my Twin Soul in some ways). Interestingly, he had an extremely similar "school" dream. Problem is, he lives on the west coast and I'm on the east coast. It would be nice to find at least one person who lives close by and with whom I can spend some time with. The way he deals with this loneliness is by meditating consistently and communing with his Expanded self and guidance system/team. I need to do this more myself. It definitely helps. However, it's easier for him as he lives alone and is retired, and I live with multiple people, work, etc. I do feel grateful for my Twin Soul though we don't fully resonate on a spiritual/energetic level.
I really do believe lonely and alone don't have to go hand in hand. I felt lonely as a child when I was with others because I was constantly told I was different. Being alone isn't lonely to me. That said, I also believe it shouldn't be some bane one must heal from... it sounds very sad to me that you mention meditating as a way to cope. I cope with my illness, with the loss of loved ones... my aloneness, even my loneliness when I sometimes still experience it (rarely though), aren't things I consider I should heal from. Sure, it sometimes feel like having someone to talk to would be lovely, but all in all, spending time with myself never feels lonely. I am my best friend. My soul could have mates, but it's also happy alone It's also quite nice to feel a bit outside of things at times. When you see colleagues get all heated up in a debate because their egos get in it and you feel like witnessing the ordeal from a peaceful cloud, it's highly enjoyable lol Perspective is very soothing, distance brings a lot of calm... I live alone but see LOTS of people at work and also outside of it, in specific settings, I feel there's balance in this for me. My voice is actually exhausted when I reach home, I wouldn't physically enjoy talking to someone after a working day  Instead of trying to find ways to cope, I would ask myself why do I feel I need to cope, why is my situation not really working for me, do you actually need a mate or do you need more alone time? IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 09, 2019 12:28 AM
Thank you for the holistically thoughtful reply Moonbeth and for sharing some of yourself with me/us. A lot depends on an individuals attunement. While I'm definitely tipped to the introvert AND Yin spectrum (on the inner level), it sounds like you might be more so? Do you have your chart up here anywhere? I would be curious to see it if so. One of the deepest and most profound downloads from Expanded Guidance that I have received, dealt with the the origins of creation. To sum it up, simplify, and make it more brief: Originally there was one Consciousness all alone unto itself (it had always existed). For a very long time, It was quiet, passive, feeling, and receptive. But it grew restless, discontent, and above all, it started to experience a feeling, a condition that we humans would call loneliness. It deeply longed for companionship as it sensed that more than it's current state was possible. So it hit on a plan to change it's deeply lonely and unsatisfying condition. It decided to split itself up into the many, while also retaining it's original self awareness. Each of the newly created/projected selves, it would give total and complete freewill and self awareness to. The hope and plan was that some of these newly created selves, these aspects of itself, would eventually, of their own freewill, choose companionship with and choose to remerge with it, thus ending it's achingly long loneliness. If the very Source, the very prime Creator experienced intense loneliness and desire for companionship, then it's likely ok for us little Souls to experiences twinges and callings of that as well. It's innate in us, as we are reflections and aspects of this Source in our core, original selves. What I most desire and long for, is a complete, all level resonant merging with another (as well as with the Source and with the Whole). Part of why I long for this, is because the last time I was in the Earth, I experienced this and it was very intense and fulfilling. I met this Soul, a Twin Soul, my Egyptian priestess and love, not long ago, but because I ended up leaving the earth/her then, when I didn't really have to, in this life, I needed to experience the pain of separation from her at her hands, and it was painful indeed. Heart wrenchingly painful. I felt rent asunder within my core, and it left me reeling. To avoid thoughts and strong urges of self destruction, I had to go into the forest to water fast, meditate, pray, chant/tone, and commune with nature for a week (originally planned for longer but stuff came up). Certainly one can learn to be happy without sharing their lives in an intimate way with another. However, Love is meant to be shared, and the deeper and more all level the sharing, the more it gets amplified in both you and them. Chris McCandless, an Aquarian recluse (and iconoclast) if there ever was one, in his last days, realized something deeply important, and wrote in his journal before dying, "happiness only real when shared." (interesting that he died when Sun was in Leo, the Sign of the heart and the opposite Sign of his Solar birth). He got so caught up in being mr. independent, mr self resourceful, mr go it alone, and partly as a reaction from the pain and hurt experienced in relation to connection with others..(especially his family) that he went to an extreme in separating himself from others (partly, on an unconscious level, to avoid that pain and disappointment). Oh believe me, that is and has been VERY tempting for this self. I am one who could easily move to Alaska and live by myself in the wilderness as a hermit. But that is the cowards way. For some, like this self, is is easier and more tempting to be an island, a rock. It is harder for this self to be immersed in the world and with others, but to not be of the world. That is, and has been, my ultimate lesson and goal, and a very hard one to attain. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 12329 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 09, 2019 01:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Moonbeth: I really do believe lonely and alone don't have to go hand in hand. I felt lonely as a child when I was with others because I was constantly told I was different. Being alone isn't lonely to me.That said, I also believe it shouldn't be some bane one must heal from... it sounds very sad to me that you mention meditating as a way to cope. I cope with my illness, with the loss of loved ones... my aloneness, even my loneliness when I sometimes still experience it (rarely though), aren't things I consider I should heal from. Sure, it sometimes feel like having someone to talk to would be lovely, but all in all, spending time with myself never feels lonely. I am my best friend. My soul could have mates, but it's also happy alone It's also quite nice to feel a bit outside of things at times. When you see colleagues get all heated up in a debate because their egos get in it and you feel like witnessing the ordeal from a peaceful cloud, it's highly enjoyable lol Perspective is very soothing, distance brings a lot of calm... I live alone but see LOTS of people at work and also outside of it, in specific settings, I feel there's balance in this for me. My voice is actually exhausted when I reach home, I wouldn't physically enjoy talking to someone after a working day  Instead of trying to find ways to cope, I would ask myself why do I feel I need to cope, why is my situation not really working for me, do you actually need a mate or do you need more alone time?
Stresss management is an ongoing thing with adulting. I have a mate and there are days I come home and just want to decompress and need alone time to recharge or some space to recharge even if we are both downstairs near each other. Burn out happens. There is a difference between chasing after romantic love or this idea of a twin flame and feeling content with life and your own company but been open to companionship. You sound grounded and mature. You may want a mate which is natural but you don't need a mate. Loneliness is natural and part of the human experience. We have days or phases in our lives we feel lonely and you can be in a great relationship and feel this too but it passes, I attribute this to saturn transits or having an off day. Is life, we all experience this. Sometimes is an opportunity to do deeper work or may mean is time to reach out to your support system or build up your support system. Sometimes is good to just embrace it and let it pass. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 12329 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 09, 2019 01:58 AM
This idea of twin flames feels like a new age version of religion. We all have karmic soulmates that at different points in our life help our soul evolve and outgrow negative cycles. Each soulmate helps us shed a layer of skin and we become happier and stronger.IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 09, 2019 11:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: This idea of twin flames feels like a new age version of religion. We all have karmic soulmates that at different points in our life help our soul evolve and outgrow negative cycles. Each soulmate helps us shed a layer of skin and we become happier and stronger.
Rather, in my deep and repeated experience, we potentially have both. Certainly we have many "soulmates". Soulmates are naught but those Souls with whom we have shared more close and/or intense experiences with in both the physical earth, in other systems, or the nonphysical dimensions that are connected to this earth/this system. Many Soulmates are actually friends, and are part of our larger Soul group. (Group of Souls on a similar rate of vibration and rate of Soul growth). But the Twin Soul concept is very true as well. However, you're just as likely to find a Twin connection as a family member, someone you can't be with romantically for strong reasons beyond your control, or as one of your nonphysical guides. My Twin Soul and I are VERY aware of a number of our Spirit's other lifetimes, and in my case, my Soul's last direct reincarnation. Much of this info has come through clear dreams. Some has come from gifted, accurate professional intuitives, some from beyond chance synchronicity, some from intuition, some from meditation guidance information, etc (and all over many years for this self). Anyways, from the combo of same, my partner and I know that we have been each other's parents, co-workers/friends who couldn't be together though very attracted, mates, other family dynamics, as well as nonphysical guides/helpers when one was incarnated and the other wasn't. It has run the full gamut. But, I tell you this from deep experience, when you are with a Twin Soul in a mate situation, nothing else compares to it as to the degree of closeness, psychic awareness/connection, intensely profound and deep love, etc. It's like a combination of the best best friend, combined with a lover you are intensely attracted to on all levels. My Twin, being an extrovert, doesn't seem to learn though, in the sense that, so many times she goes out on dates, and comes back deeply disappointed by the person/connection. Me, the few, brief relationships I had earlier on, left me feeling similar and being an introvert (and for other reasons), I made the choice to just not engage and seek these connections (though the body and ego part was tempted at times). Some 9 years of that (11 of open option), all flew out the window quite quickly and powerfully when I met my Egyptian love, who is not only my Twin Soul, but like me, a direct, literal reincarnated Soul and our last direct dive was with each other. (my other Twin is like most Souls, a newly created Spirit mix. They are both of and from the same half of our larger Spirit that split a long time ago though). I cannot even begin to describe the intensity of all level attraction to her. It was the most overwhelming thing I have ever experienced. I felt like a large neodymium magnet getting closer and closer to another large neodymium magnet. I am so grateful that I had the open option at the time, because I would have been sorely and deeply tempted otherwise, and I have A LOT of willpower and self control. She felt some of that attraction deep down, but she has a personality that is VERY filled with and influenced by deep fear, and so she kept me and the connection at a distance. Part of that fear related to Egypt when I left the earth/her when I didn't really have to. She felt incredibly abandoned by me and was deeply confused and hurt by this. Deep down she was afraid of getting so close to me like before and the same thing happening again. Besides this deep, repeating personal experience, we also have the most verified, broad, intensely researched/studied, accurate psychic source in the world, the Edgar Cayce work, which very much confirms the concept of Twin Souls (and interestingly, "Jesus" and his Mother, were said to be Twin Souls by this source). IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 12329 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 09, 2019 12:17 PM
I dont think believing in twin flames has ever helped me in my personal growth journey and something about it gives me this pyramid scheme vibe but bottom line I feel this belief personaly sets me back from growing as a person or spiritually and my gut has always hinted to me to be skeptical of it. I have Neptune at the Galactic Center in Saggi 26 degrees and chart ruler Jupiter in saggi conjunct Uranus as my strongest planets, beliefs that don't ground me and keep me in a fantasy world don't help me be at my best and feed my addictive cycle involving romantic love which passed away for me this year and I will never get sucked back into that cycle and all the drama, pain, chasing and loss of energy that comes with that. I am in Part 2 of my journey which has many chapters too like part one but I feel I have experienced a type of death and rebirth this year and feel sober minded, all the negative side effects of Neptune no longer are running my life yet the positive spiritual side of Neptune is stronger than ever.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 12329 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 09, 2019 12:29 PM
Interesting you keep bringing up Egypt. I had an Egyptian Past Life Dream over a decade ago, I think in my early 20s. Astrologically I have:Sun conjunct Horus exact Moon conjunct Nephthys exact Mercury conjunct Nofretete exact IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 09, 2019 12:59 PM
It's good to be skeptical of things Hypatia238. There is a lot in the New Age that is a bunch of baloney, or what I like to call "b.s. b.s." (belief system bullshite). The Twin Flame/Soul thing does get overblown and over focused on imo (especially since most romantic relationships, much of the time are actually more so karmic). But for those of us with real experiences with real Twin Souls, it really is something quite intense and deep. As someone with a combo of very strong Jupiter, Capricorn, Mercury, Libra and Virgo, (and with Pluto in the 3rd, almost exactly trine Venus the ruler of the 3rd and it's Sign placement), I can assure you that I spend a lot of time and energy discriminating the truth from the bull, as I'm obsessed with objective truth. I approach all new information with a combo of skeptical open mindedness or open minded skepticism. I try and rarely veer too much to one side or the other. I test, test test, and I constantly seek to verify in a very holistic way. Or in other words, I never come to beliefs lightly nor casually anymore. I did more so at the very beginning of my spiritual journey back in my teens and early 20's, and after allowing myself to get duped a few times by sources less than true or helpful, my Virgo North Node (in 1st and nearish Jupiter) and Cap Sun and Merc kicked in, and I started to become much more discerning and discriminating. What I would suggest, is not to believe or disbelieve me nor your own beliefs, but to test it. A very good way to do so is this combo. Go into deep meditation, but before you open yourself up in meditation, state an affirmation/prayer/intention like this one, "I deeply desire, and ask to connect to and get guidance from only the most Love attuned, aware, positive, constructive sources or those helpers that these may send to me." Spend some time chanting/toning (like Ahh Ommm type stuff), as a charge up and clearing method. After that, remember a time, a moment when you felt a lot of love. Re bringing up this memory tends to automatically bring up the feelings. Let yourself smile with the remembrance, let those positive, expansive, heart centered feelings well up within you, and feel it towards all of creation, to yourself, to the Source, to all those who suffer. Universalize it. Then go deep within and get very still, and in that very deep and still state, ask this Expanded Guidance, "Please show me the truth of the Twin Soul/Flame concept". Or you can ask a simple yes and no question, such is, "Is the Twin Flame/Soul concept true?" Ask with no preconceptions as to the answer, OR how it will come. It may come right then and in various different forms, or it may come later through a dream or a life synchronicity. This is the process I have developed from my experimenting with meditation and spiritual seeking from age 13 to nearly age 40. It is the distilled best and most effective and helpful practices that I have either come across or developed from within. Something that I like to sometimes ask when in that very expansive and very still/receptive state is a general, "Please bring to my conscious awareness that which would be most helpful for me or others to become aware of now." I have received information many times in many different forms and ways, and I've had a number of these "guidance downloads" verified in a hard, physical, beyond chance and doubt way. This, along with living Love, is one of the ways out of belief system bags and limitations. It's a way to ever expanded, ever more accurate, and more helpful truth. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 09, 2019 01:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Interesting you keep bringing up Egypt. I had an Egyptian Past Life Dream over a decade ago, I think in my early 20s. Astrologically I have:Sun conjunct Horus exact Moon conjunct Nephthys exact Mercury conjunct Nofretete exact
Well now you got me quite curious! Show me yours and I'll show you mine? (Actually, I probably shouldn't go into mine in public). IP: Logged | |