posted October 27, 2020 12:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
True she does have a certain childishness, not in a childish way lol but I guess playful is a better word. Though not really. More so raw I guess.

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posted October 27, 2020 12:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Initially I felt the attraction immediately the minute I saw him. But now after everything that attraction turned into grossed out'ness lol. I don't like guys going after girls when they already have their own plate to take care of. It's just ugh.

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I understand the latter part. The male body (speaking just the body, not the Soul or whole person), is somewhat wired and programmed that way. Nature doesn't have or do "ethics" in the human sense of the term, but only cares about passing on positive genetic traits etc.

Souls that are connected to male bodies, if they are not immature Souls, will consciously redirect those body and/or ego based urges and feelings because they don't want to hurt their partner.

But understand that physically, hormonally, something like 7 out of 10 straight or bi guys (with normal levels of testosterone, not super depressed, etc) will be at least looking at other women to some extent whether you catch them or they admit it or not. Again, that is just how the male body is wired. And as mentioned, the decent ones, more in touch with their Soul, won't go farther than that though.

However, it's kind of crazy how many men AND women cheat, statistically, in relationships. I find it kind of amusing when people look down on, or are judgy, of those in open relationships, when such people are trying to avoid the whole "hurting your partner" part of things, and so many non open people end up cheating or contributing to another person cheating, at some point.

Boggles my mind the hypocrisy and inconsistency of it all, but then again, my non human friends did warn me before my first incarnation here hundreds of thousands of years ago, "humans are NOT logical nor particularly conscious beings." I think I said something like, "Yeah I know, but somebody's gotta go in there and help clean up that mess." (I had Pisces and Virgo axis strong even back then). Famous last words, before I spilled some milk...

posted October 27, 2020 12:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
yeah i'm not 100% sure what word i'm looking for but you get me right?

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Lol yeah.

posted October 27, 2020 01:07 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I understand the latter part. The male body (speaking just the body, not the Soul or whole person), is somewhat wired and programmed that way. Nature doesn't have or do "ethics" in the human sense of the term, but only cares about passing on positive genetic traits etc.

Souls that are connected to male bodies, if they are not immature Souls, will consciously redirect those body and/or ego based urges and feelings because they don't want to hurt their partner.

But understand that physically, hormonally, something like 7 out of 10 straight or bi guys (with normal levels of testosterone, not super depressed, etc) will be at least looking at other women to some extent whether you catch them or they admit it or not. Again, that is just how the male body is wired. And as mentioned, the decent ones, more in touch with their Soul, won't go farther than that though.

However, it's kind of crazy how many men AND women cheat, statistically, in relationships. I find it kind of amusing when people look down on, or are judgy, of those in open relationships, when such people are trying to avoid the whole "hurting your partner" part of things, and so many non open people end up cheating or contributing to another person cheating, at some point.

Boggles my mind the hypocrisy and inconsistency of it all, but then again, my non human friends did warn me before my first incarnation here hundreds of thousands of years ago, "humans are NOT logical nor particularly conscious beings." I think I said something like, "Yeah I know, but somebody's gotta go in there and help clean up that mess." (I had Pisces and Virgo axis strong even back then). Famous last words, before I spilled some milk...

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posted October 27, 2020 01:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol yeah.

BTW just felt like commenting... I think your style communication changed. I noticed it in other threads as well, like more compassionate lately? Not sure if compassionate is the right word, I guess being in tune with other people's take on subjects, acknowledging it I guess is a better description. Lol not calling you out on it just interesting. I mean 👍 cool in a good way.

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has it? guess i've grown up a bit i'm also not high and drunk all the time so that probably helps

i was barely ever sober when i first joined here now i'm nearly always sober 🤷‍♀️ been through plenty of **** too had a bunch of experiences

time to reflect, be human

it's interesting to hear that from someone i haven't really paid much attention, i mean i know i've changed quite a bit i don't feel much like the person i was in a lot of ways but it's not something i think about showing up in a noticeable way to another person

posted October 27, 2020 01:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I'll have to agree with you unfortunately lol...

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I do think guys do do it more, and I was explaining that it was because it's a strong body urge in the male body. Female bodies are wired more cautiously and security oriented. Speaking only in generals and averages though.

Bodies are one thing, Souls another.

posted October 27, 2020 01:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
has it? guess i've grown up a bit i'm also not high and drunk all the time so that probably helps

i was barely ever sober when i first joined here now i'm nearly always sober 🤷‍♀️ been through plenty of **** too had a bunch of experiences

time to reflect, be human

it's interesting to hear that from someone i haven't really paid much attention, i mean i know i've changed quite a bit i don't feel much like the person i was in a lot of ways but it's not something i think about showing up in a noticeable way to another person

suppose that makes sense that it'd work like that though huh? 😁

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It is pretty interesting. I wonder if it's all those planets (Saturn Pluto Jupiter) conjuncting now (in your fourth?). I guess that would explain things.

But good to hear, hope you're doing ok.

posted October 27, 2020 01:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
And BTW not judgy about open relationships, that's a mutual agreement there's nothing wrong if both agree to something. Was referring to cheating specifically, which definitely both genders can be blamed.

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Oh, I know you weren't being like that. I was just speaking generally, and comparing and contrasting different choices, intentions, etc. We have received a fair amount of raised eyebrows and the like when we talk openly about this. Women tend to be the most judgy about it. I think because it's triggering to the shadow and to insecurity.

Anyways, sounds like you made a healthy choice here. A percentage of guys need definite boundaries and to be told things directly and clearly. Most of us don't do the whole mind reading thing that y'all wish we would do.

posted October 27, 2020 01:26 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I do think guys do do it more, and I was explaining that it was because it's a strong body urge in the male body. Female bodies are wired more cautiously and security oriented. Speaking only in generals and averages though.

Bodies are one thing, Souls another.

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posted October 27, 2020 01:33 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Oh, I know you weren't. I was just speaking generally, and comparing and contrasting different choices, intentions, etc. We have received a fair amount of raised eyebrows and the like when we talk openly about this. Women tend to be the most judgy about it. I think because it's triggering to the shadow and to insecurity.

Anyways, sounds like you made a healthy choice here. A percentage of guys need definite boundaries and to be told things directly and clearly. Most of us don't do the whole mind reading thing that y'all wish we would do.

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posted October 27, 2020 01:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
It is pretty interesting. I wonder if it's all those planets (Saturn Pluto Jupiter) conjuncting now (in your fourth?). I guess that would explain things.

But good to hear, hope you're doing ok.

And yeah it's definitely obvious no question.

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in my 4th yeah maybe square my nodes? or past that im not sure pluto and saturn are done with my ic and jupiter's heading for its 3rd pass just finished exact squaring my ascendant moon and venus

and all 3 have hit all my angles and my venus and moon over this past what? year and a half i guess

not feeling so great today actually health **** other than that my life is 🤷‍♀️and im doing 🤷‍♀️ **** if i know

just a sort of strange limbo can feel something cant see it sort of deal

life will take me where it takes me though

posted October 27, 2020 01:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I do always hope that you guys would just get it 😆. I'm learning I'm learning.

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Hahaha, yes, definitely there is a part of you and most straight to bi women that would like that from males, BUT I've also learned that there is nothing that scares a woman more than a man who does read them very deeply and more fully, and who can see through them.

At least, that's been my experience. My "secret" is that my Soul is slightly tipped to the Yin in polarization despite being connected to a male body, and I'm also very psychic/intuitive.

My partner doesn't seem to mind for the most part though, and she will even sometimes say,"Justin, sometimes you know me better than I know myself." Sometimes she says so begrudgingly, but sometimes humorously and/or in appreciation.

(But admittingly there are occasional moments where I'm completely baffled).

posted October 27, 2020 01:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
in my 4th yeah maybe square my nodes? or past that im not sure pluto and saturn are done with my ic and jupiter's heading for its 3rd pass just finished exact squaring my ascendant moon and venus

and all 3 have hit all my angles and my venus and moon over this past what? year and a half i guess

not feeling so great today actually health **** other than that my life is 🤷‍♀️and im doing 🤷‍♀️ **** if i know

just a sort of strange limbo can feel something cant see it sort of deal

life will take me where it takes me though

what about you? doing well?

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Those are some pretty strong transits, over the IC as well as square to Venus, Moon and ASC. Thankfully Jupiter is there to turn it into growth for you. It's anything but light going over water houses.

I hear you. Hope your situation improves whatever 🤷‍♀️ means lol. Limbo is good though? I mean stagnancy sucks. But maybe being in limbo is uncomfortable. But at the same time transformation is never comfortable.

Hope you feel better soon enough health wise.

posted October 27, 2020 02:05 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Hahaha, yes, definitely there is a part of you and most straight to bi women that would like that from males, BUT I've also learned that there is nothing that scares a woman more than a man who does read them very deeply and more fully, and who can see through them.

At least, that's been my experience. My "secret" is that my Soul is slightly tipped to the Yin in polarization despite being connected to a male body, and I'm also very psychic/intuitive.

My partner doesn't seem to mind for the most part though, and she will even sometimes say,"Justin, sometimes you know me better than I know myself." Sometimes she says so begrudgingly, but sometimes humorously and/or in appreciation.

(But admittingly there are occasional moments where I'm completely baffled).

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posted October 27, 2020 02:24 AM            

These, whether connected to a male or female body, are fairly rare. Would be classed as "very old souls". (I'm not being egoistical or tooting my own horn, but just being Jupitarian matter of fact and direct).

I went through a very lonely period awhile back when trying to make deeper connections with others (platonically and with males and females), but wasn't having much success. I deeply wondered about it and why. I had a dream I was at a school I didn't normally go to, and I saw self sort of in the background helping the other students at this school. Helping them felt good, but when I tried to connect more deeply and personally with them, they just weren't interested, and it almost felt like I was invisible, like I was a ghost to them.

I felt very lonely, and I wondered why there was such a lack of interest in me on their part. I happened to catch a glimpse of self in a pane of glass and saw my reflection. I was much older looking than the other students. Most of them ranged from children to teens, with a smattering of a few young adults here and there, and I had a beard and a look and feel of deep maturity (in age terms, I was like in my 40's or 50's).

Guidance was telling me, it is nobody's fault or wrong, just different wavelengths. People tend to want to connect most deeply with those on a similar deeper wavelength, as the great Law of creation that runs through all dimensions, is "Like attracts, begets, resonates with, and likes Like" on the deeper, Soul levels.

Thankfully I do have some of my Soul group incarnated who do like and want some connection with me. And interestingly, the one person that I have met who I felt completely understood and accepted me, HAD the SAME friqqin dream, and also has a hard time connecting more deeply with others.

Problem is, is he lives on the other side of the country, and while we have met up a couple of times in person, it's mostly an online connection, which is kind of unsatisfying. But the path of the true initiate is not to surround themselves with like minded/being people, but to be amongst and interact with the whole spectrum, especially those more suffering.

Even with as close and loving a connection as my partner and I have, we are on somewhat different wavelengths, and I feel my friend Albert understands and accepts me more than she does in certain ways.

posted October 27, 2020 02:44 AM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Go by your intuition and possibly nip it in the bud.

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posted October 27, 2020 06:02 AM            

Why not?

posted October 27, 2020 06:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Travelman:
This subject matter is always so bizarre to me, especially when someone takes an extreme point of view like "Never befriend a married person."

Why not?

Anyone can be friends with anyone. My ex had tons of guy friends and I had tons of girl friends and, in the end, it all boiled down to trust and being adults about it. There is no fast and hard rules about this type of stuff regardless of how hard some try to make them.

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Potential temptation of a weakness.

posted October 27, 2020 06:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol thank you, I actually did.

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posted October 27, 2020 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Those are some pretty strong transits, over the IC as well as square to Venus, Moon and ASC. Thankfully Jupiter is there to turn it into growth for you. It's anything but light going over water houses.

I hear you. Hope your situation improves whatever 🤷‍♀️ means lol. Limbo is good though? I mean stagnancy sucks. But maybe being in limbo is uncomfortable. But at the same time transformation is never comfortable.

Hope you feel better soon enough health wise.

I'm doing ok thank you, I think my life's starting to fall into place. I hope. Yeah my life's changing a lot, those transits are in my eighth now right on top of my NN. Playing with my brain lol. I'm doing better though thank God, felt mostly like **** up until a couple of months ago.

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it's been a lot yeah, even without jupiter some of its been for the better, but ultimately there's no real going back to what was when things change so drastically

not a bad thing just is

i'm not a fan of being in limbo, patience isn't something i have much of and it's all been trying when something does happen along with dealing with everything that's changed and that i've already come from

it's cool though life lessons and growth and **** at least, needed that where i was headed if things had stayed wasnt any good

you and me are both hoping for that 😁

glad you're at least seeing some light at the end of it, that sounds like a lot, and it's been really heavy energy i think even outside of how it's affecting individual charts

but 8th house and north node, damn i imagine you've had some intense **** come out of that

i wonder what your vedic chart is like

i'm in venus ketu dasha right now, venus dasha is roughly 20 years long and before that was ketu (and i have them conjunct in my 1st house which is virgo in vedic) and i was born into mercury dasha (moon is in revati nakshatra in pisces) which affected my first house so after this i'll be in a period that moves away from venus-ketu-mercury for the first time ever (sun dasha and i have a 12th house leo sun)

so the drastic changes fit in well there all things considered, it's interesting to see how western transits mirror these dashas and i just wonder if maybe you're about to cross from one major period in your life to another with your north node being hit