posted August 12, 2009 12:31 PM         

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personally i would spend my whole life trying to decorate it then clean it.

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IC in Taurus
Venus trine IC
Vesta in Taurus in 4th house trine Saturn in Virgo

posted August 12, 2009 12:40 PM         

How To Stage A 2nd-Tier Protest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgcNZWqSwf8

posted August 12, 2009 03:41 PM         

I sometimes do, but it's because I'm somewhere else and have it shoved down my throat. For example, a fitness center I go to frequently has on infotainment disguised as news (FOX, CNN, etc) and I absolutely cannot stand them most of the time. But I never watch these channels from my own home ('course I don't even get cable or dish). And even at places like the fitness center, if I can't see anyone watching it, I WILL turn it off (or if there's more than one TV playing and one is being watched, change the channel to help tune out the other annoying channel). I've actually thought of changing fitness centers since they removed the volume limit on the TVs.

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Bartering is IT

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I have yet to buy a single computer part. I got it all through barter--much of it from a guy I housesat for who is known to not pay up the last he owes you when he doesn't need you anymore, and he's a major pack rat who hadn't gotten rid of an older computer, so I took that computer instead of payment for housesitting while he was in Mexico & in exchange for doing real estate research for him, got him to pay for several months of internet connection.

Granted, it does have some problems that make me want to go out and buy a new computer someday when I can afford to...

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i guess it is bad karma when california fires strikes the houses of celeberties down there. maybe its a sign that you have too much stuff. whats that word umm oh yeah DONATE some stuff please i need it.

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The karma comes from a mix of insane real estate deals (if the insurance companies & real estate biz were to combine, it would be VASTLY different in marketing and pricing), and also insane government programs like this:
http://www.reason.com/news/show/29067.html

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In 1980 I built a wonderful beach house. Four bedrooms -- every room with a view of the Atlantic Ocean.

It was an absurd place to build, right on the edge of the ocean. All that stood between my house and ruin was a hundred feet of sand. My father told me: "Don’t do it; it’s too risky. No one should build so close to an ocean."

But I built anyway.

Why? As my eager-for-the-business architect said, "Why not? If the ocean destroys your house, the government will pay for a new one."

What? Why would the government do that? Why would it encourage people to build in such risky places? That would be insane.

But the architect was right. If the ocean took my house, Uncle Sam would pay to replace it under the National Flood Insurance Program. Since private insurers weren’t dumb enough to sell cheap insurance to people who built on the edges of oceans or rivers, Congress decided the government should step in and do it. So if the ocean ate what I built, I could rebuild and rebuild again and again -- there was no limit to the number of claims on the same property in the same location -- up to a maximum of $250,000 per house per flood. And you taxpayers would pay for it.

Thanks.

I did have to pay insurance premiums, but they were dirt cheap -- mine never exceeded a few hundred dollars a year.

Why does Uncle Sam offer me cheap insurance? "It saves federal dollars," replied James Lee Witt, head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), when I did a 20/20 report on this boondoggle. "If this insurance wasn’t here," he said, "then people would be building in those areas anyway. Then it would cost the American taxpayers more [in relief funds] if a disaster hit."

That’s government logic: Since we always mindlessly use taxpayer money to bail out every idiot who takes an expensive risk, let’s get some money up front by selling them insurance first.

The insurance, of course, has encouraged more people to build on the edges of rivers and oceans. The National Flood Insurance Program is currently the biggest property insurance writer in the United States, putting taxpayers on the hook for more than $640 billion in property. Subsidized insurance goes to movie stars in Malibu, to rich people in Kennebunkport (where the Bush family has its vacation compound), to rich people in Hyannis (where the Kennedy family has its), and to all sorts of people like me who ought to be paying our own way.

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posted August 12, 2009 06:46 PM         

I think it's rich to b1tch on people whom you don't know personally and therefore have no idea how much they do for charity or those less fortunate.

posted August 12, 2009 08:25 PM         

Its also ironic that these "Super Rich" people are usually the biggest benifactors to charities and projects to revitalize infrastructure in improvished regions. They are the ones who usually lead the way and yet its not enough for the pompous under-achievers who themselves didn't amount to much but do like to talk crud without an ounce of reasoning behind it other then envy.

posted August 12, 2009 09:36 PM         

Excess is only useful to make the “little people” want to work harder, a tool to make people envious, to make us want to consume, consume, consume and keep our capitalist economy going (in the US). Economies are build on envy. I blame THE MEDIA!!! <evil laughs>

It seems to have gotten worst in the U.S. because the gap between the rich and the poor is so HUGE and do I even have to mention the economy? People trying to live in excess who cannot do it, lives are in shambles…

I have never, ever been envious of money and what it can buy. I’m more of a love person. I would feel more envious if someone said they were so happily in love than if they said they had a million dollars! Also, what is so wrong with fame without loads of cash behind it? Remember the “old days” when that was the actual case. People got enough to be happily well off, but not “lear jet” well of. Personally when I get a compliment I feel like a million bucks!

One of my favorite songs:

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Money, get away
get a good job with more pay and you're O.K.
money, it's a gas
grab that cash with both hands and make a stash
new car, caviar, four star daydream
think I'll buy me a football team

Money, get back
I'm alright, Jack, keep your hands off my stack
money, it's a hit
don't give me that do goody good ********
I'm in the hi-fidelity first class travelling set
and I think I need a Lear jet

Money, it's a crime
share it fairlybut don't take a slice of my pie
money, so they say
is the root of all evil today
but if you ask for a rise it's no surprise that they're
giving none away, away, away

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posted August 12, 2009 09:39 PM         

Of course it could seem disgusting in one corner, but who are we to tell others how to spend the money they earn? People will come to their own realizations in their own time, I feel it a waste of time to loftily judge them from below their thrones since their stories are not over yet.

Life is a journey, with no written path for any individual. We can merely hope that we learn what we were put here to learn and maybe send out a hope that others will enjoy the same fate. To put our own judgments or values on others is just asking to have them put theirs on us, and I wholeheartedly think we all don't like to have the mirror cast back at us...

Anyway, live and let live. Do what you can and feel is right within yourself. You and you alone will know at the end if you did right..

posted August 12, 2009 11:03 PM         

It's a very simple philosophy to me. Those who don't share some of their wealth are not generous souls. And I think a lack of generosity is an ugly thing.

However, I will also say that I've seen people who aren't wealthy be very stingy as well.
Ugly behavior abounds, regardless of how much money a person has.

posted August 12, 2009 11:09 PM         

just face it.... they're rich and you are not!
This thread is really showing the real characters behind all the air-kissing sweetness we witness on LL.

Shameful.
If you wanna be rich then stop slagging off the people whose club you wish to join and start working HARD.

ALL these wealthy people WORKED HARD and I find it absolutely disgusting that other people are bitter and envious enough to sit around bitch1ng and moaning at more fortunate persons in such a negative fashion.

posted August 12, 2009 11:26 PM         

Everyone has their own karma and all men are equals. There is 'balance' in everything; everyone if one looks closely. I'm sure you'll agree!

posted August 13, 2009 05:44 AM         

I think opinions are great except 99% of this thread appears to be more slagging and judging not an objective opinion!
Agree?

Money doesn't grow on trees, it's obtained through hard work. If you are the son of an oil tycoon or an Internet geek then you are simply living a good life this time... like I said, there is balance so the best thing to do I personally think and try to do is just be as positive and as focused as you can be on your own life.

posted August 13, 2009 05:57 AM         

Yep, I'm completely open to the fact that I'm judgmental on this one. I'm not apologising for that. It sucks yes, but I don't claim to be enlightened. I think people can go over the top New Agey and forget that it's actually quite alright to call people out on their sh!t.

Clooney's my target.

I just think that getting more money by advertising plastic crap is... well....wrong, especially when you are loaded already. Espresso machines! Which will end up in the landfill.
I don't have a problem with people being rich. Really. Someone (think downtomars without scrolling back) said this thread's turning into the Communist Manifesto, lol, that couldn't be further from my point of view actually although I could see what she meant. I'm all for personal responsibility and conscious living, which is the ultimate in individualism, not communism.

posted August 13, 2009 09:33 AM         

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it's kind of all of our fault.

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Yes, that is EXACTLY what I'm saying too. What's the point in some people recycling every milk bottle and piece of aluminium foil when some Hollywood idiot buys a new handbag every day made by some small-boned child in China, and I'm supposed to go "To each their own, shouldn't judge".

Bollocks I shouldn't judge! What I'm saying is that these people are not taking personal responsibility at all. Pimping plastic crap to the masses?

I fail to see how that's ok. It's not ok. The world's dying and people are still flying around the world in their private jets? It all seems so frivolous.