posted February 23, 2011 10:06 PM            

I think this is normal energy/expression for you, I do think some of you actually process thought this way. No judgement.

But they do need to understand themselves more, That way they can harness that energy a little better.

Work with your problems til they go away, if they do not go away, seek more advanced help because you are gonna need it lol.

posted February 23, 2011 10:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
This string is about BPD, not mental illness in general. No, I do not believe BPD is a real disorder. I lean toward behaviorism in my views. Behavior is learned. Acting a certain way is rewarding in some way, and that's why the behavior is repeated. For something to be an "illness," there must be a medical test to diagnose it. Observation of behavior does not constitute a medical test. We pray to the psychiatry gods way too much in this country. But the pushing of legal drugs on a duped populace is a matter for another discussion.

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posted February 23, 2011 11:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I don't have a problem with people needing help, seeking help, and even being helped by drugs. What I have a problem with is when people justify bad behavior with a crutch as some do (not all or even most). Yes, we all have ideas about how the world works, but the thing about theories is that they are replicatable and thus have validity. Both Skinnerian and Pavlovian findings have been replicated numerous times and is commonly accepted among the peer-reviewed scientific community. It just gets trickier when dealing with humans.

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posted February 23, 2011 11:40 PM            

Unless you have personally been there yourself, It is the same as a civilian trying to tell a military man what war is like.

No way for you to really know that horror, Until you go to bed, and wake up with it every morning for a long period of time.

At times, You face the realization that it will never end. That is hard because you have to figure out how to live like this, or what to do with yourself.

You have to understand the brain is not working correctly, No matter how much the person is willing themselves to do it.

It can feel like a giant boot is continuously being pressed on you, You can not get away from it. And that can be maddening.

Have you ever felt that? And can not get away from it no matter how hard you try?

Most people are driven to very bad places, I am fortunate in that I saved myself.

Trust me, that is not a common ability in this area of the mind.

People are more or less "lost" in the dark. Take that as it means.

Lost and they do not know how to get out, Outside help never really helps.

Drugs for this dull the mind, are related to bandaids.

posted February 24, 2011 12:00 AM            

I would not know where to start.

Way more ways for that to manifest itself.

Depression can almost be something that is alive and fighting you.

I hope you can understand that I am not talking about someone looking out a window and feeling a lil down because of the weather.

Seasonal depression does occur, I myself have still have SAD
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/seasonal_depression_sad/article_em.htm

posted February 24, 2011 12:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Once again, PS, I am trying to keep this on topic. You are taking my specific opinion on BPD and extending it broadly. I never said your depression wasn't real. I am only speaking of BPD. So, are you telling me that the person of whom you speak would be cured by a drug? Do you not think that this behavior was learned (probably by seeing a parent engage in the same way)? And, of course, people have anger issues, as well. What has been learned can be unlearned.

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posted February 24, 2011 12:42 AM            

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From what I read, Anti-socials will never accept treatment, go there willingly, and get help - because they all believe they are completely fine. My sister was mandated to go to therapy because my nephew started beating himself in school. They were able to decipher that there was a "problem" at home.

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PS..What makes you bring in anti-socials into this?
Anti socials cannot be mentioned here...i dont think that is a category worth mentioning in ailments!
Socialising or non-socialising has nothing to do with being diagnosed with a psychiatric condition.
I think this statement has confused anti-social behaviour with psychopath.

posted February 24, 2011 12:48 AM            

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Originally posted by rajji:
PS..What makes you bring in anti-socials into this?
Anti socials cannot be mentioned here...i dont think that is a category worth mentioning in ailments!
Socialising or non-socialising has nothing to do with being diagnosed with a psychiatric condition.
I think this statement has confused anti-social behaviour with psychopath.

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posted February 24, 2011 12:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
You said it yourself, PS: "These people know what they are doing and take pleasure in it." Does that sound like a disease to you? Or does it sound like a free-will choice to engage in bad behavior? Warped thinking perhaps, but not an illness. My opinion.

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Yes, it does. I think these people are unable to feel remorse and empathy, and are slaves to their impulses, fears and irrational thoughts which have a true basis in chemical imbalance, and allude to having different brain wiring.