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Ami Anne
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posted February 23, 2011 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder?
If you have not been diagnosed (which *I* have LITTLE faith in ,anyway) do you feel you are?
I ask cuz I am trying to understand this condition,more.
Of course,it goes without saying that there is NOTHING to be ashamed of if one suffers from any condition, emotional or physical xxx

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Ami Anne
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posted February 23, 2011 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some really good articles I will share later.
Thank you for any responses

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posted February 23, 2011 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Psychobabble BS. But that's just my opinion.

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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted February 23, 2011 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well,
I've read up on BPD in the past and I honestly see a little of this in many people if not everyone.
My dad always told me mental illness is in your head, you make yourself have it, you can get rid of it without pills, just choose to do so.
I'd go mmmhmm, mmhmmm, but nowadays, I think there may have been something to what he said.

I have been through alot in my life, as previously expressed. I, for some reason can't wrap my head around being labeled because of the traumatic things you've experienced in life. Then to give such a negative label? If anything give a label of perseverance and bravery, why disorder?

I don't know. I'm trying to be easy on myself, as I've been my own worst enemy for most of my life. I deserve some self loving.

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posted February 23, 2011 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Psychobabble BS. But that's just my opinion.


I love to hear someone utter those word besides me

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posted February 23, 2011 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted February 23, 2011 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I love to hear someone utter those word besides me



You don't ever say that, do you?

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posted February 23, 2011 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne
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posted February 23, 2011 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
Well,
I've read up on BPD in the past and I honestly see a little of this in many people if not everyone.
My dad always told me mental illness is in your head, you make yourself have it, you can get rid of it without pills, just choose to do so.
I'd go mmmhmm, mmhmmm, but nowadays, I think there may have been something to what he said.

I have been through alot in my life, as previously expressed. I, for some reason can't wrap my head around being labeled because of the traumatic things you've experienced in life. Then to give such a negative label? If anything give a label of perseverance and bravery, why disorder?

I don't know. I'm trying to be easy on myself, as I've been my own worst enemy for most of my life. I deserve some self loving.


EES
Please elaborate ,more.I am very interested in what your point of view.
Thank you

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posted February 23, 2011 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Psychobabble BS. But that's just my opinion.


This diagnosis garbage gets me REALLY angry. It takes a strong person to say what you said,Randall, stronger than *I* am.
I would have been afraid to say it but I agree 1000%.
Bless you for your courage

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posted February 23, 2011 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, umm . . . I'm kind of tired, I had a long day and then homework so I'm a little out of it.

What I was saying was, my dad always tried to teach me that there is no mental illness and it is all in a person's head and if you want to be cured it's a matter of choosing from here on out to be healed and making a conscious decision to do so.

I used to let it go in one ear and out the other and thought to myself "it's waaay more complicated than that" but, now I think there is something to what he was telling me.

My point in the self love part was, at some point, I got tired of dwelling on negative experiences and past disappointments and I'm choosing to be happy. I make a conscious decision to do so best I can, but alas, I am human, I will slip and fall (you like to say that

Is that better?

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posted February 23, 2011 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you EES
I see what you mean.
Lots of wisdom there

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posted February 23, 2011 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its not me, it's the raw food

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posted February 23, 2011 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Raw food
ROTFL

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posted February 23, 2011 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are what you eat

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posted February 23, 2011 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every gemeni I have known has had this trait.

Males and Females, It did not matter.

They have a divergence of mind/spirit/energy, Or whatever it is you can imagine there.

It is essentially a born in split personality.

Twins.

Both wanna know about the subject.

You can watch the energy switch in the eyes, and body language.

Some hide it a little better than others, And some are not so obvious.

Any time I engage in a argument/conversation (because usually both happen, Unless you are really liked by that gemeni), I have to go through the game of showing both sides and making it interesting, because one of them will sometimes not like it out of spite, just to see what happens.

Present company excluded, But damn it drives me crazy.

I could almost climb a wall sometimes.

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posted February 23, 2011 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you ever think that the inmates run the asylum ?
The ones who diagnose are more whacked out than the regular population

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posted February 23, 2011 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you ever think that the inmates run the asylum ?
The ones who diagnose are more whacked out than the regular population


You just can't ever tell

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posted February 23, 2011 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may be helpful, Ami.

Are you in a relationship with a person with Borderline Personality Disorder?

* Do you find yourself concealing what you really think or feel because you're afraid of the other person's reaction, and it just doesn't seem worth the horrible fight or hurt feelings that will surely follow? Has this become so automatic that you have a hard time even identifying what you think or feel?
* Feeling like you're walking on eggshells much of the time, and that no matter what you say or do, it will be twisted and used against you.
* Being blamed and criticized for everything wrong in the relationship, even when it makes no logical sense.
* Being the focus of intense, even violent rages that make no logical sense, alternating with periods when the other person acts perfectly normal and loving.
* Feeling like you're being manipulated, controlled or even lied to sometimes.
* Feeling like the person you care about sees you as either all good or all bad, with nothing in between. Wishing that the person would act like they used to, when they seemed to love you and think you were perfect and everything was wonderful.
* Feeling like the other person is like "Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde": one moment a loving, caring person; another moment someone who seems so vicious you barely recognize them. Wondering which one is "real." Hoping that it's a phase that will go away -- but it doesn't. Feeling like you're on an emotional roller coaster with high highs (things are incredible, fantastic) and very low lows (feeling of despair, depression, grief for the relationship you thought you had).
* Being afraid to ask for things in the relationship because you will be told you're too demanding or there is something wrong with you. Being told that your needs are wrong or not important.
* Wondering if you're losing your grip on reality because the other person is always putting down or denying your point of view. Plus, the other person often acts just fine in front of other people, so no one believes you when you explain what's going on.
* Feeling that nothing you do is ever right, and when you do manage to do what the other person wants, suddenly they change their expectations. The rules keep changing and no matter what you do, you can't win. Feeling helpless and trapped.
* Being accused of doing things you never did and saying things you never said. Feeling misunderstood a great deal of the time, and when you try to explain, the other person doesn't believe you.
* Being constantly put down, yet when you try to leave the relationship the other person tries to prevent you from leaving in a variety of ways -- anything from declarations of love and promises to change to outright implicit or explicit threats such as "you'll never see the children again" and "no one but me will ever love you."
* Having a hard time planning anything (social engagement, etc.) because of the other person's moodiness, impulsiveness or unpredictability. Sometimes, even making excuses for their behavior to other people -- or trying to convince yourself that this is normal behavior.
* Reading the above list and thinking "Oh my God, I had no idea that other people were going through the same thing and that there is a name for this: Borderline Personality Disorder."

*Edit*
When reading the following post by Randall, I can see how these are "learned" and "rewarded" behaviors.

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posted February 23, 2011 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This string is about BPD, not mental illness in general. No, I do not believe BPD is a real disorder. I lean toward behaviorism in my views. Behavior is learned. Acting a certain way is rewarding in some way, and that's why the behavior is repeated. For something to be an "illness," there must be a medical test to diagnose it. Observation of behavior does not constitute a medical test. We pray to the psychiatry gods way too much in this country. But the pushing of legal drugs on a duped populace is a matter for another discussion.

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