posted June 06, 2014 01:10 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Padre35:
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Now my charges against the (un)fairer sex is knowing a guy is into them, and just playing the guy.

to be fair, usually the guy volunteers, still it is better to be cruel quickly then have false kindness over time.

Even as a guy, it is fairly easy to tell when a guy is into a girl, and she is not feeling it, yet it drags on and on in bizarre march of raised hopes/rejections..raised hopes/rejections.

If women ever wonder why a few men are very direct about their intentions, it is to dispense with that long march to nowhereville.

cannot say I blame them tbh

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Difference is AG, I appreciate women for being..women..not womanly mind you, cook clean etc, rather for having such a way of doing things.

Consider that most women have little physical power, surrounded by men who have lots of physical power, what is the way to navigate that terrain?

posted June 06, 2014 01:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Difference is AG, I appreciate women for being..women..not womanly mind you, cook clean etc, rather for having such a way of doing things.

Consider that most women have little physical power, surrounded by men who have lots of physical power, what is the way to navigate that terrain?

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posted June 06, 2014 01:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
The problem with the fat guy who isn't up to her standards is that someone probly WILL like him for himself when he accepts himself...but his own standards are not deep enough to realize a woman who looks down on him will only make him miserable whatever happens. So telling him hes good enough is true and false at the same time. Really, SHE is not good enough.

Why are people under such pressure to "succeed" with the opposite sex anyway?

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If only that were true, and here is where things are fuzzy with that template

It begins with "..if only I X..then she would like me"

This was the core of Elliot Roger's disassociation from reality began, that sort of self actualized programming is a quaint memory in the days of Tinder.

Other issue is in a culture of false self esteem the crashes into the mtn side required to both realize 'I'm fine with me' and "wow, she really does like me for me' is becoming increasing rare.

I WANT IT NOW...ME ME ME

posted June 06, 2014 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
You still do it tho!

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Not really. I steer clear of people I actually dislike outright, and have learned the difference between disliking someone's opinion about something, as opposed to disliking them as a human being. I see us all as being so very human.

I can dislike a behavior. I can disagree with an opinion. I've learned that it doesn't mean that I have to dislike the human being.

Occasionally (as mostly occurs with my mother in-law and my own mother) I can actually dislike them as people. Other women (and men) I can really dislike, but they're not a part of my son's life, and although it may require some thought, I often come to the conclusion that my interactions with them create more harm for me than good, and I leave quietly.

If pressed, I either remain quiet, or I respond bluntly if sufficiently irritated.

posted June 06, 2014 01:21 AM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Again, Lillith-Asc, conflict or hatred is not a problem.

Sun square Pluto and Mars as well.

But on a serious note, I agree.

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I'll see you Scorpio mars and raise you triple fire (Sag Sun/Leo Moon/Aries Asc)!

posted June 06, 2014 01:30 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Sometimes I really wish I could go back to Jr High/High School with the knowledge I have about women/dating today. I would save myself alot of grief and frustration,that's for sure. Of course there are other reasons I want to go back in time but thats a topic for another discussion. Am I the only one who wishes there was a rewind button on life?

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Why would you want to change who you are? Yeah, I mean there are some horrible things that I wish never happened to me, but I know if I didn't go through them I wouldn't be half the successful and resilient person I am.

Same goes for you- it's never a good feeling to struggle with dating, but I honestly feel part of your life lesson is working towards finding successful relationships that you crave. The things you have gone through, understandably frustrating, will only make you and your future relationships more meaningful.

First step is to work towards appreciating women. No, you don't have to worship them or become a "nice guy," but rather put down your defenses and be willing to see that not all women in this generation are bad. Let go of the hurt and anger from the past and change the energy you project.

So obviously I'm not your favorite person here, but I wouldn't saying this if I didn't care or felt you weren't capable of making someone very happy someday. More importantly, you deserve to be happy so allow yourself to be and I promise you your experiences with women and dating will change.

I may give you a lot of crap but really it's because it's hard to see someone with so much potential self-destruct. I want you to succeed, and know that deep down inside you don't believe everything you post.

posted June 06, 2014 01:32 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Padre35:
[b] Difference is AG, I appreciate women for being..women..not womanly mind you, cook clean etc, rather for having such a way of doing things.

Consider that most women have little physical power, surrounded by men who have lots of physical power, what is the way to navigate that terrain?

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Yes i am..wanna step outside and settle it pardner?

seriousness tho, believe it or not, have run into contact of women of 'your generation' and have gotten along famously, could have been scandalously..that is for a different time tho.

anyhow, what I've found is a sort of directionless rejection of what they were told, but they do it anyway as there is no other template for them to follow.

keep in mind, if a young women of YOUR GENERATION posts a photo on FB or wherever with a banana sticking in her ear, she will receive 200 instant likes and re-enforcement

posted June 06, 2014 01:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
I'll see you Scorpio mars and raise you triple fire (Sag Sun/Leo Moon/Aries Asc)!

Kidding aside, wherever I look I see jealousy, desire, envy just so hyped now.

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Can we trade our Mars signs? I do not like my Taurus mars! That Sag/Leo/Aries combo is pretty awesome though.

posted June 06, 2014 01:44 AM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Why would you want to change who you are? Yeah, I mean there are some horrible things that I wish never happened to me, but I know if I didn't go through them I wouldn't be half the successful and resilient person I am.

Same goes for you- it's never a good feeling to struggle with dating, but I honestly feel part of your life lesson is working towards finding successful relationships that you crave. The things you have gone through, understandably frustrating, will only make you and your future relationships more meaningful.

First step is to work towards appreciating women. No, you don't have to worship them or become a "nice guy," but rather put down your defenses and be willing to see that not all women in this generation are bad. Let go of the hurt and anger from the past and change the energy you project.

So obviously I'm not your favorite person here, but I wouldn't saying this if I didn't care or felt you weren't capable of making someone very happy someday. More importantly, you deserve to be happy so allow yourself to be and I promise you your experiences with women and dating will change.

I may give you a lot of crap but really it's because it's hard to see someone with so much potential self-destruct. I want you to succeed, and know that deep down inside you don't believe everything you post.

P.S. Unrelated, but you wouldn't happen to have a Taurus moon, would you?

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posted June 06, 2014 01:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Yes i am..wanna step outside and settle it pardner?

seriousness tho, believe it or not, have run into contact of women of 'your generation' and have gotten along famously, could have been scandalously..that is for a different time tho.

anyhow, what I've found is a sort of directionless rejection of what they were told, but they do it anyway as there is no other template for them to follow.

keep in mind, if a young women of YOUR GENERATION posts a photo on FB or wherever with a banana sticking in her ear, she will receive 200 instant likes and re-enforcement

Miley Cyrus twerks with whomever, instantly liked and more importantly 'controversial' meaning ppl are talkng about..her

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posted June 06, 2014 01:46 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Yes I am a Taurus Moon

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posted June 06, 2014 01:47 AM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
What degree if you don't mind me asking?

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posted June 06, 2014 01:50 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
One thing that always bugs me about these discussions is the majority of the criticism is always focused on the dating challenged man. We are perceived as having tons of flaws and having unrealistic standards etc. but what people don't want to discuss is the fact that many women price themselves out of the market because they have an unrealistically high opinion of themselves and their attractiveness.. For example Padre is always telling me to "be interesting" and "have hobbies" as if I am not interesting and have hobbies already. But what he fails to realize is the fact that I get rejected by plain and boring women... So is all the onus on men to be interesting and attractive now? Because sometimes it sure seems that way... Granted I am all for self improvement but are men the only ones who need to improve? Or am I just imagining all the boring and conventionally unattractive women out there?

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Think about that for a moment, so Ms Boring and Unattractive, makes herself interesting, she becomes a pilates fanatic, picks up Philosophy and repairs old folks homes on weekends..at the end of the day..she rejected you when she was boring and unattractive, but NOW, she somehow will find you endlessly interesting?

*** for tat, one also did say one is very direct, saves time, that does come at a cost of rejection.

sub "hobbies' for passions, and being interesting is never a bad thing.

For example, would it surprise you if I speak to 'boring, unattractive women' the same way I speak to women you'd consider 'hawt'?

there is a saying in the Red Pill

posted June 06, 2014 01:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Yes i am..wanna step outside and settle it pardner?

seriousness tho, believe it or not, have run into contact of women of 'your generation' and have gotten along famously, could have been scandalously..that is for a different time tho.

anyhow, what I've found is a sort of directionless rejection of what they were told, but they do it anyway as there is no other template for them to follow.

keep in mind, if a young women of YOUR GENERATION posts a photo on FB or wherever with a banana sticking in her ear, she will receive 200 instant likes and re-enforcement

Miley Cyrus twerks with whomever, instantly liked and more importantly 'controversial' meaning ppl are talkng about..her

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posted June 06, 2014 01:52 AM            

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That's it!!!!!!!!!

Your moon conjuncts my mars- 0 degrees!

posted June 06, 2014 01:53 AM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Can we trade our Mars signs? I do not like my Taurus mars! That Sag/Leo/Aries combo is pretty awesome though.

Lilith and Pluto aspects are a double-edged sword. Trust me, it ain't all sunshine and daisies at times.

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Also have this odd Scorpio placement on my mid heaven in Leo that is rare iirc

Scorpio venus/mars/jupiter and pluto opp sun etc

posted June 06, 2014 01:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Also have this odd Scorpio placement on my mid heaven in Leo that is rare iirc

Scorpio venus/mars/jupiter and pluto opp sun etc

Indeed it is not, the thing is, the generation also craves something to believe in for a lack of a better term

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posted June 06, 2014 01:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Think about that for a moment, so Ms Boring and Unattractive, makes herself interesting, she becomes a pilates fanatic, picks up Philosophy and repairs old folks homes on weekends..at the end of the day..she rejected you when she was boring and unattractive, but NOW, she somehow will find you endlessly interesting?

*** for tat, one also did say one is very direct, saves time, that does come at a cost of rejection.

sub "hobbies' for passions, and being interesting is never a bad thing.

For example, would it surprise you if I speak to 'boring, unattractive women' the same way I speak to women you'd consider 'hawt'?

there is a saying in the Red Pill

"women want men who just get it"

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posted June 06, 2014 02:00 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Boy, ain't that the truth.

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Here is my disconnect w/you, I've said I "was' you in a sense.

Jr high in FL (if you think this time is debauched, should have seen the go-go more blow gen in the 80's) and moving from that to NC's Mtn's and an utterly different culture.

No dates in HS or Jr High

The Universe, or God if one will, used that as a time of refining, lifted weights, studied and read, won awards..that ironically never showed up to receive.

posted June 06, 2014 02:03 AM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Well I must turn in my intensity card to you, cause damn that is a lot of Scorp energy! How does that midheaven aspect play out for you? I have Pluto in 10th.

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It's dithering tho, Saggie just won't let things get out of hand..save for socializing or learning or action

funny thing is, all of that intensity, dealt with out in the world, leads ppl to wild conclusions about my proclivities

IIRC pluto in virgo in the 8th

Laptop w/my chart crashed

I'll show you mine if you show me yours?

posted June 06, 2014 02:09 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Padre35:
[b] Think about that for a moment, so Ms Boring and Unattractive, makes herself interesting, she becomes a pilates fanatic, picks up Philosophy and repairs old folks homes on weekends..at the end of the day..she rejected you when she was boring and unattractive, but NOW, she somehow will find you endlessly interesting?

*** for tat, one also did say one is very direct, saves time, that does come at a cost of rejection.

sub "hobbies' for passions, and being interesting is never a bad thing.

For example, would it surprise you if I speak to 'boring, unattractive women' the same way I speak to women you'd consider 'hawt'?

there is a saying in the Red Pill

"women want men who just get it"

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civil to obese women?

Hell no, I'm flirty, not for any particular sexual reason more it gives me pleasure to see those around me in a good mood and having a great time and joining in the fun.

posted June 06, 2014 02:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
It's dithering tho, Saggie just won't let things get out of hand..save for socializing or learning or action

funny thing is, all of that intensity, dealt with out in the world, leads ppl to wild conclusions about my proclivities

IIRC pluto in virgo in the 8th

Laptop w/my chart crashed

I'll show you mine if you show me yours?

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Lol you don't want to see my chart- only the insane can handle it! I'm sure Pluto in 8th probably intensifies the way people percieve you as well. I have vertex and Juno in 8th, always wanted a planet in that house.