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DeepFreeze
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posted June 06, 2014 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never really had trouble and what I did was the simplest thing you can do.

I smiled, showed confidence (while being humble), I listened, laughed at their jokes, and just talked to them like PEOPLE.

Heck someone on here contacted me via email anonymously (still not a clue who they were) saying that I didn't seem like I was here for women while they thought many other men here are.
That was weird... But ditch the complicated games and it's very simple.
This one sag guy at work used to say like wait 3 days and call... Screw that.
If you want to call, call... Just chill... Relax and just be good company and conversation. That's all.

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aquaguy91
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posted June 06, 2014 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Padre35:
Here is my disconnect w/you, I've said I "was' you in a sense.

Jr high in FL (if you think this time is debauched, should have seen the go-go more blow gen in the 80's) and moving from that to NC's Mtn's and an utterly different culture.

No dates in HS or Jr High

The Universe, or God if one will, used that as a time of refining, lifted weights, studied and read, won awards..that ironically never showed up to receive.

Always kept forward motion



Well that's where I have been for quiet some time.. I have read/studied, worked out, "did things for me", socialized, worked jobs etc. and not a whole lot has changed. Meanwhile I see girls my age dating idiots who have nothing to offer but their looks. Yet supposedly I am the problem. Padre, I don't doubt what you say but I think times have really changed since then and not for the better.

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BellaFenice
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posted June 06, 2014 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I never really had trouble and what I did was the simplest thing you can do.

I smiled, showed confidence (while being humble), I listened, laughed at their jokes, and just talked to them like PEOPLE.

Heck someone on here contacted me via email anonymously (still not a clue who they were) saying that I didn't seem like I was here for women while they thought many other men here are.
That was weird... But ditch the complicated games and it's very simple.
This one sag guy at work used to say like wait 3 days and call... Screw that.
If you want to call, call... Just chill... Relax and just be good company and conversation. That's all.


Completely agree. Obviously it worked out for you too.

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Padre35
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posted June 06, 2014 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Lol you don't want to see my chart- only the insane can handle it! I'm sure Pluto in 8th probably intensifies the way people percieve you as well. I have vertex and Juno in 8th, always wanted a planet in that house.

hmm, perhaps a psychotic break rather than a full blown psychosis?

nice to "meet" you BF, I'm not so much the Astrologer, I'm more from the Psychic side of the spectrum

Once asteroids were tossed into the mix, yeah uhm, lost on that one

If I know a person even barely, can read a look/head down/look up, from a mile away and then follow the rabbit hole

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BellaFenice
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posted June 06, 2014 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Padre35:
[b] Here is my disconnect w/you, I've said I "was' you in a sense.

Jr high in FL (if you think this time is debauched, should have seen the go-go more blow gen in the 80's) and moving from that to NC's Mtn's and an utterly different culture.

No dates in HS or Jr High

The Universe, or God if one will, used that as a time of refining, lifted weights, studied and read, won awards..that ironically never showed up to receive.

Always kept forward motion



Well that's where I have been for quiet some time.. I have read/studied, worked out, "did things for me", socialized, worked jobs etc. and not a whole lot has changed. Meanwhile I see girls my age dating idiots who have nothing to offer but their looks. Yet supposedly I am the problem. Padre, I don't doubt what you say but I think times have really changed since then and not for the better.[/B][/QUOTE]

Have you heard of the self-fulfilling prophecy? I think you are putting way too much pressure on yourself.

What sort of feedback have you gotten from previous dating and relationship experiences? It takes two to tango, so you aren't the problem/to blame.

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Padre35
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posted June 06, 2014 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Padre35:
[b] Here is my disconnect w/you, I've said I "was' you in a sense.

Jr high in FL (if you think this time is debauched, should have seen the go-go more blow gen in the 80's) and moving from that to NC's Mtn's and an utterly different culture.

No dates in HS or Jr High

The Universe, or God if one will, used that as a time of refining, lifted weights, studied and read, won awards..that ironically never showed up to receive.

Always kept forward motion



Well that's where I have been for quiet some time.. I have read/studied, worked out, "did things for me", socialized, worked jobs etc. and not a whole lot has changed. Meanwhile I see girls my age dating idiots who have nothing to offer but their looks. Yet supposedly I am the problem. Padre, I don't doubt what you say but I think times have really changed since then and not for the better.[/B][/QUOTE]

Let me ask you AG..name 5 positive things about yourself..right now.

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BellaFenice
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posted June 06, 2014 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
hmm, perhaps a psychotic break rather than a full blown psychosis?

nice to "meet" you BF, I'm not so much the Astrologer, I'm more from the Psychic side of the spectrum

Once asteroids were tossed into the mix, yeah uhm, lost on that one

If I know a person even barely, can read a look/head down/look up, from a mile away and then follow the rabbit hole


Lol I laughed. Glad you don't think I'm completely crazy! I'm not that well versed on asteroids and such, so I understand.

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Padre35
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posted June 06, 2014 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
I never really had trouble and what I did was the simplest thing you can do.

I smiled, showed confidence (while being humble), I listened, laughed at their jokes, and just talked to them like PEOPLE.

Heck someone on here contacted me via email anonymously (still not a clue who they were) saying that I didn't seem like I was here for women while they thought many other men here are.
That was weird... But ditch the complicated games and it's very simple.
This one sag guy at work used to say like wait 3 days and call... Screw that.
If you want to call, call... Just chill... Relax and just be good company and conversation. That's all.


DF, to play Diabolus Advocatum;

Perhaps one is good looking and made things much much easier to do those things?

Which brings up a huge can of things:

Women, deal in intuition and feelings

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aquaguy91
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posted June 06, 2014 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Let me ask you AG..name 5 positive things about yourself..right now.

I'm loyal
I'm hardworking
I'm funny
I'm a good listener
I'm almost invariably calm/ levelheaded

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Padre35
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posted June 06, 2014 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Lol I laughed. Glad you don't think I'm completely crazy! I'm not that well versed on asteroids and such, so I understand.

Have been told I have Saturn in a certain house, that grants Authority and causes ppl to be on their P's and Q's

And dislike saying it, most women are a bit..crazy at times, or better said..random

the smile today can be the frown tomorrow, men however, back to the OP..never manage to "get" that quality and wind up misreading it all..then questioning themselves, then her, then over indulging or getting really quiet so much the anger is palpable

instead of just thinking or perhaps saying 'eh, that is her, and her storms"

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Padre35
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posted June 06, 2014 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Padre35:
[b] Let me ask you AG..name 5 positive things about yourself..right now.


I'm loyal
I'm hardworking
I'm funny
I'm a good listener
I'm almost invariably calm/ levelheaded [/B][/QUOTE]

You have two outward qualities, one of which is group dependent, being funny, one that requires more speaking upon

good listener..as in active listener or passive listener?

Careful with loyalty, good way to wind up burned, be loyal to those worthy of loyalty

IE to Violets point

if one wants a "canned' response

'you have many good qualities, some of which have caused you pain in the past, you have visions of a great future but doubt you can reach those lofty goals. Sex is a sore topic with you'

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Barbiegirl19
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posted June 06, 2014 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
DF, to play Diabolus Advocatum;

Perhaps one is good looking and made things much much easier to do those things?

Which brings up a huge can of things:

Women, deal in intuition and feelings


He is extremely hot lol but he has that super strong Pluto wall and like super stern face and at first glance I think people are too afraid to approach him so it's not that. Once people see that smile though then it's game over

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Padre35
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posted June 06, 2014 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
He is extremely hot lol but he has that super strong Pluto wall and like super stern face and at first glance I think people are too afraid to approach him so it's not that. Once people see that smile though then it's game over

In a way, it makes things easier, look stern, have a good smile, poor female winds up marrying him..oh wait

i'm only up this late b/c it will be 3 am soon, time for the prayer watch for my Mother

I say that not b/c of a attaboy of piety, more..feeling it

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DeepFreeze
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posted June 06, 2014 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah AG...
I think you have a lot to offer but if that tension and frustration are in there...they'll sense it, smell it... They know something is not right.
Just my opinion.

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Barbiegirl19
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posted June 06, 2014 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
In a way, it makes things easier, look stern, have a good smile, poor female winds up marrying him..oh wait

Wait for it...his voice is even better I fell in love with him the first time I heard it.

Edit Just realized that you edited your posts. How is your mom? I can't imagine what you're going through and how you're feeling. Stay strong for your family. ❤️

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Padre35
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posted June 06, 2014 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Yeah AG...
I think you have a lot to offer but if that tension and frustration are in there...they'll sense it, smell it... They know something is not right.
Just my opinion.

Inwardly focused

Alrighty then DF..name 5 lessons you have learned from life

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BellaFenice
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posted June 06, 2014 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Wait for it...his voice is even better I fell in love with him the first time I heard it.

I'm telling you it's the voice you have to look out for! Hook, line, and sinker.

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Barbiegirl19
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posted June 06, 2014 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
I'm telling you it's the voice you have to look out for! Hook, line, and sinker.

I'm telling you lol. I wasn't expecting it at all that's for sure.

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DeepFreeze
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posted June 06, 2014 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Inwardly focused

Alrighty then DF..name 5 lessons you have learned from life


Be positive
Don't take people who love you for granted
Set attainable goals
Don't procrastinate
Face issues that need dealt with

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BellaFenice
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posted June 06, 2014 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
In a way, it makes things easier, look stern, have a good smile, poor female winds up marrying him..oh wait

i'm only up this late b/c it will be 3 am soon, time for the prayer watch for my Mother

I say that not b/c of a attaboy of piety, more..feeling it


Obviously I don't know anything about the situation with your mom, but sending you good thoughts and hope all is okay.

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Padre35
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posted June 06, 2014 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Wait for it...his voice is even better I fell in love with him the first time I heard it.

thing is, there is no formula for explaining a "voice"

And then women wonder why guys get frustrated?

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Barbiegirl19
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posted June 06, 2014 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
thing is, there is no formula for explaining a "voice"

And then women wonder why guys get frustrated?


I agree there isn't and I can't explain it even to him. But it's like I had already known him and my heart had recognized it instantly. It's like we were reunited or something. I can't explain it and its probably due to all of my lovely 12th house crap.

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Padre35
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posted June 06, 2014 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Be positive
Don't take people who love you for granted
Set attainable goals
Don't procrastinate
Face issues that need dealt with

All actionable things, outwardly focused..ime women tend to like this in men.

Only thing i could add is never tell the same story twice to the same people

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BellaFenice
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posted June 06, 2014 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
thing is, there is no formula for explaining a "voice"

And then women wonder why guys get frustrated?


Actually... There kind of is. I was watching this documentary (forget what it's called), but basically a study found that based on your individual DNA and pheromones you will be attracted to a certain kind of voice.

I'll have to look it up later for more info.

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Padre35
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posted June 06, 2014 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Obviously I don't know anything about the situation with your mom, but sending you good thoughts and hope all is okay.


milli grazia BF

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